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Allegiant MD-80 Emergency Landing At CID Injures 2  
User currently offlineIowaman From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4404 posts, RR: 6
Posted (8 years 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 9447 times:
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Emergency Evacuation at Eastern Iowa Airport
By Mark Geary, Reporter

CEDAR RAPIDS - Passengers on an Allegiant Airlines plane had to evacuate moments after they landed at the Eastern Iowa airport Sunday night.

The plane began filling up with smoke shortly after the plane hit the runway. Then, the pilot called for an emergency evacuation of the flight from Las Vegas.

"We all kind of noticed an odor. Then, all of a sudden, smoke started filling up. Not thick smoke, but an electrical type smoke. Everybody thought we were just going to get off the plane. Then, they decided to use the slides," passenger Lynette Nugent said.

The trip down the emergency slide injured two of the passengers. Doctors are treating them at a local hospital.

Airport officials say there was no fire, and they're still investigating what caused the smoke.

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It was Allegiant Air flight #436 from LAS, a flight that I've flown a few times.

Looks like a rescue flight is planned to pick up the stranded pax waiting for Allegiant flight #437, Allegiant flight #9868 from ICT:

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/AAY9868

[Edited 2006-09-11 05:40:04]


Next flights: WN DSM-LAS-PHX, US PHX-SJD.
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User currently offlineJeb94 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 602 posts, RR: 5
Reply 1, posted (8 years 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 9368 times:

All I can say is once again the media is sensationalizing. The facts have been twisted a bit. Also this is not an emergency landing. The aircraft was holding on the ramp waiting for a gate.

[Edited 2006-09-11 06:39:10]

User currently offlineKcrwFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2004, 3818 posts, RR: 7
Reply 2, posted (8 years 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 9324 times:

Anyone ever notice a G4 plane with 2 red nav lights instead of a red and a green? I've got pictures.

User currently offlineJeb94 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 602 posts, RR: 5
Reply 3, posted (8 years 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 9309 times:

KcrwFlyer I would sure like to see those pictures and I would like to know the tail number please.

User currently onlineBrenintw From Taiwan, joined Jul 2006, 1654 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (8 years 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 9289 times:

Quoting KcrwFlyer (Reply 2):
Anyone ever notice a G4 plane with 2 red nav lights instead of a red and a green? I've got pictures.

I'd like to see it as well. But I have to wonder quite what this has to do with the topic -- it might be better served as its own topic.

Bren



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User currently offlineJeb94 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 602 posts, RR: 5
Reply 5, posted (8 years 3 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 9167 times:

I know what caused the smoke. It was oil smoke.

User currently offlineIowaman From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4404 posts, RR: 6
Reply 6, posted (8 years 3 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 9124 times:
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Quoting Jeb94 (Reply 5):
I know what caused the smoke. It was oil smoke.

What would cause oil smoke?



Next flights: WN DSM-LAS-PHX, US PHX-SJD.
User currently offlineJeb94 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 602 posts, RR: 5
Reply 7, posted (8 years 3 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 9095 times:

There are five things that can cause oil smoke like this. R/H engine, L/H engine, R/H ACM, L/H ACM, and the APU. The smoke appeared shortly after the APU was started and the APU was found to have very little oil in it.

User currently offlineUAL Bagsmasher From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 2147 posts, RR: 10
Reply 8, posted (8 years 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 9015 times:

I've seen the same thing happen on a CRJ-200. The plane evacuated due to an "acrid electrical" smoke. Turns out the APU was leaking oil internally causing the smell in the bleed air. You could also smell it from the APU exhaust. It is very pungent, and almost did smell like something electrical burning up.

User currently offlineAccess-Air From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 1939 posts, RR: 13
Reply 9, posted (8 years 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 8708 times:

Quoting KcrwFlyer (Reply 2):
Anyone ever notice a G4 plane with 2 red nav lights instead of a red and a green? I've got pictures.

Is that something that is illegal as the green light vs the red light is to differentiate which direction the plane is going??

Access-Air



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User currently offlineKcrwFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2004, 3818 posts, RR: 7
Reply 10, posted (8 years 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 8495 times:

http://www.airliners.net/uf/view.fil...4773&filename=1158008680BlZZmu.jpg

Theres a pic.

[Edited 2006-09-11 23:08:48]

User currently offlineS5FA170 From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 534 posts, RR: 4
Reply 11, posted (8 years 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 8353 times:

The aircraft in question was sitting on the ramp, off the gate, with its tail stairs down all day in CID.

I myself sat at CID all day today (10:30am to 4:30pm) waiting on ANY United Express flight to land and get me out of here, after my own flight I was supposed to be working cancelled. Check the CID airport page for some interesting reads. Only two aircraft have landed here today, the rest have all diverted due to the weather!

-Tony



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User currently offlineOzFlyer From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 13 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (8 years 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 8343 times:

Wasn't this also a recurring problem on the BAe-146 for a while ? Seems I remember several flight attendant complaints about APU oil fumes in the cabin.

oz


User currently offlineTVNWZ From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 2394 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (8 years 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 8327 times:

Quoting Jeb94 (Reply 1):
All I can say is once again the media is sensationalizing. The facts have been twisted a bit. Also this is not an emergency landing. The aircraft was holding on the ramp waiting for a gate.

What did they twist? Slides=emergency evacuation. Nothing about an emergency landing mentioned in post 1. Just emergency evacuation, which is factual.


User currently offline777WT From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 877 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (8 years 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 7876 times:

Quoting KcrwFlyer (Reply 10):
http://www.airliners.net/uf/view.fil...4773&filename=1158008680BlZZmu.jpg

Theres a pic.

This is so aganist regulations...


User currently offlineAirTranTUS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (8 years 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 7648 times:

Quoting 777WT (Reply 14):
This is so aganist regulations...

So is this...
Man 1: "Bring out yer dead!"
Man 2, with woman on shoulders: "Here ya go."
Woman: "I'm not dead yet!"
Man 1: "She's not dead. Sorry, I can't take her sir, it's against regulations."

...or something like that.

Back on topic, I wonder if it was one of their planes that was chartered this weekend for football games, not that it makes any difference. It would have been interesting to see football players using the slides though.

[EDIT] Why two red NAV lights? That is both illegal according to some FAR and dangerous. (That's why it's illegal.) Does Menzies do MX too?

[Edited 2006-09-12 02:36:08]

User currently offlineKcrwFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2004, 3818 posts, RR: 7
Reply 16, posted (8 years 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 7416 times:

Quoting 777WT (Reply 14):
This is so aganist regulations...

yyyyyyyyyyyep.

Quoting AirTranTUS (Reply 15):
EDIT] Why two red NAV lights? That is both illegal according to some FAR and dangerous. (That's why it's illegal.) Does Menzies do MX too?

Thats what i'm trying to figure out.


User currently offlineCIDflyer From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 2313 posts, RR: 3
Reply 17, posted (8 years 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 7318 times:

Quoting AirTranTUS (Reply 15):
Back on topic, I wonder if it was one of their planes that was chartered this weekend for football games, not that it makes any difference. It would have been interesting to see football players using the slides though.

not a charter, this was actually Allegiant's scheduled flight from LAS-CID


User currently offlineJBirdAV8r From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 4491 posts, RR: 21
Reply 18, posted (8 years 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 7285 times:

Quoting KcrwFlyer (Reply 16):
Quoting 777WT (Reply 14):This is so aganist regulations...
yyyyyyyyyyyep.

Quoting AirTranTUS (Reply 15):EDIT] Why two red NAV lights? That is both illegal according to some FAR and dangerous. (That's why it's illegal.) Does Menzies do MX too?
Thats what i'm trying to figure out.

Look a little closer--there's clearly a green nav light. You are seeing the reddish reflection (caused by your primitive digital camera) of the landing lights, which are extended/on.


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Wingtips are painted red...probably as a result of our ramp staff at TRI directing the wingtip of a G4 MD87 into the jetway...

[Edited 2006-09-12 03:19:03]


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User currently offlineScotland1979 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 548 posts, RR: 12
Reply 19, posted (8 years 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 7232 times:
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Oil Smoke!! Should not add 5W-30 oil in plane  crazy 


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User currently offlineFATFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2001, 5814 posts, RR: 28
Reply 20, posted (8 years 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 6954 times:

Quoting JBirdAV8r (Reply 18):
Wingtips are painted red...

This photo probably shows the red tips better.


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User currently offlineJBirdAV8r From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 4491 posts, RR: 21
Reply 21, posted (8 years 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 6933 times:

Quoting FATFlyer (Reply 20):
This photo probably shows the red tips better.

Yes, but in these days of A.net semantics police, I figured it'd be prudent to show that the underside of the wingtip is ALSO red.

Thanks though!



I got my head checked--by a jumbo jet
User currently offlineFATFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2001, 5814 posts, RR: 28
Reply 22, posted (8 years 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 6777 times:

Quoting JBirdAV8r (Reply 21):
Yes, but in these days of A.net semantics police, I figured it'd be prudent to show that the underside of the wingtip is ALSO red.

LOL, true and I thought the same thing but this was the first one I saw with good angle to show the large red area.



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User currently offlineFATFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2001, 5814 posts, RR: 28
Reply 23, posted (8 years 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 6755 times:

Jeb and JBirdAV8r,

I hear the 2 aircraft leased to Nordic plus 1 additional are coming in the next couple of weeks. True?



"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness." - Mark Twain
User currently offlineJeb94 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 602 posts, RR: 5
Reply 24, posted (8 years 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 6273 times:

That appears to be a reflection from the landing lights off of the bottom of the red wing tips more than the actual nav lights. One ex-Finnair aircraft is already in Tulsa and has been stored there for a few months now. The other two that were leased out will be here before the end of the year. There is also some desire to get a third -87 in storage at GYR online but that may take some time. Its going to be a little noisy in CID tonight. If all goes right that bird won't be there tomorrow at this time.

[Edited 2006-09-12 05:29:00]

25 Flyf15 : Sure was an interesting day at CID today.... The weather nothing short of SUCKED. I flew in pretty early in the morning, weren't successful on either
26 AirTranTUS : I realised it was an actual flight, but wondered what it would have been like if this incident had happened this weekend on one of the football chart
27 Jeb94 : It would've wound up pretty much the same. An aircraft would've been sent out to recover the flight and mechanics would be sent to get the problem fou
28 SkyexRamper : Yes, there is a green nav light, just forward of the red wingtip.
29 Flyinryan99 : Jeb, Is Allegiant going after any more birds this year or 1st quarter of next year? Here's to hoping oli keeps falling so they bring back TOL-LAS.
30 AS739X : Same thing as the AS MD80 at SFO a few months back. Anytime you get smoke after landing its a good sign of a APU issue! ASLAX
31 Post contains images Airfoilsguy : This thread has become schizophrenic
32 S5FA170 : At least you made it in and out! My crew and I sat for six hours waiting for our plane to go in (it missed its approach, went back to ORD and sat for
33 Jeb94 : The sensationalism is in the whole "moments after landing" and "the plane began filling up with smoke shortly after hitting the runway" thing. That's
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