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Why Boarding Is On Trhu The Left Doors Of Plane?  
User currently offlineEastern023 From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 871 posts, RR: 0
Posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 15960 times:

I alway wondered why not boarding through the right side. Like a regular bus.

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User currently offlineFoxBravo From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 2996 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 15957 times:

I think historically it goes back to ships.


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User currently offlineSv2008 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2006, 622 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 15935 times:

I always wondered this, but it seems just to be convention.

User currently offlineEWRCabincrew From United States of America, joined May 2006, 5523 posts, RR: 56
Reply 3, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 15861 times:

Because the cargo doors are on the right and catering is done, primarily through the right side doors.

Occasionally boarding can be done through the doors on the right.

But when a plane is parked, baggage is off-loaded, all the baggage carts, the catering trucks, etc., usually prevent a boarding from the right side.



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User currently onlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 30877 posts, RR: 86
Reply 4, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 15824 times:
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Quoting Eastern023 (Thread starter):
I alway wondered why not boarding through the right side. Like a regular bus.

As EWRCabincrew noted, the cargo doors are on the right so you have baggage trucks moving about. Also, many planes fuel from the right. The forward and aft galleys are also on the right, so catering needs to use those doors to load and unload. Also, the jetways are designed to load from the left only, in my experience.

Add it all up, and the only logical (if not feasible) choice is the lefthand doors.


User currently offlineJetset7E7 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2004, 1090 posts, RR: 15
Reply 5, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 15824 times:

Quoting EWRCabincrew (Reply 3):
But when a plane is parked, baggage is off-loaded, all the baggage carts, the catering trucks, etc., usually prevent a boarding from the right side.

That is basically the reason, as all this is going on, on the right hand side, there is alot of room on the left, for boarding etc. Also alot of fuelling points on the aircraft are on the righthand side.

Mark



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User currently offlineB747FAN From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 82 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 15737 times:

They board on the left in the Northern Hemisphere, and from the right in the Southern Hemisphere.


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User currently offlineEWRCabincrew From United States of America, joined May 2006, 5523 posts, RR: 56
Reply 7, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 15711 times:

Quoting B747FAN (Reply 6):
They board on the left in the Northern Hemisphere, and from the right in the Southern Hemisphere.

 rotfl   rotfl   rotfl 



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User currently offlineTristarSteve From Sweden, joined Nov 2005, 3999 posts, RR: 34
Reply 8, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 15711 times:

On the Dh Comet, the main pax door was the fwd right door. But in the days before airbridges I suppose it doesn't matter. I remember my one and only flight on a BEA Comet 4B, getting on at Orly to fly to LHR and going up the steps to the R1 door.

User currently offlineBlueFlyer From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 3967 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 15658 times:
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Every post above makes an interesting assumption, which is that boarding is on the left because all those other activities mentioned (refueling, catering, etc...) take place on the right. Not to be picky, but what if all those activities were taking place on the right because boarding is taking place on the left? What came first? The catering truck or the passenger?

So why are we boarding from the left?



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User currently offlineJRadier From Netherlands, joined Sep 2004, 4676 posts, RR: 50
Reply 10, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 15658 times:

Quoting FoxBravo (Reply 1):
I think historically it goes back to ships.

Sounds very likely

Quoting EWRCabincrew (Reply 3):
Because the cargo doors are on the right and catering is done, primarily through the right side doors.



Quoting Stitch (Reply 4):
As EWRCabincrew noted, the cargo doors are on the right so you have baggage trucks moving about. Also, many planes fuel from the right. The forward and aft galleys are also on the right, so catering needs to use those doors to load and unload. Also, the jetways are designed to load from the left only, in my experience.

Don't you think that the cargodoors etc are on the right because PAX boarding is done from the left?



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User currently offlineIahflyr From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 4790 posts, RR: 22
Reply 11, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 15652 times:

I think it is simple...who is the KING....the Captain is the king, Captain sits in the left seat.....Captain has best view of the airstair/jetway from their most aft window!! Think about it.

No the real question, who came first, the Capt., passenger, or catering truck?  Smile



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User currently offlineJetset7E7 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2004, 1090 posts, RR: 15
Reply 12, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 15638 times:

Quoting Eastern023 (Thread starter):
I alway wondered why not boarding through the right side. Like a regular bus.

A bus in the UK has the passenger door on the left  Wink

Mark



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User currently offlineGQfluffy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 15592 times:

How does one explain the 747 in the center of the picture?


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User currently offlineMariner From New Zealand, joined Nov 2001, 25080 posts, RR: 85
Reply 14, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 15583 times:
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Quoting Eastern023 (Thread starter):
I alway wondered why not boarding through the right side.

Early industrialization and standardization.  Smile

The left hand side of ships - "port" - is where the passenger ship/boat/ferry always docks and embarks/disembarks.

The right hand side - "starboard" - goes back to the earliest water transport:

http://www.nmm.ac.uk/server/show/conWebDoc.17900

The terminology became standard. It would have been very confusing on the old flying boats, for example, if they had changed the system.

mariner



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User currently offlineFoxBravo From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 2996 posts, RR: 4
Reply 15, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 15467 times:

Quoting Mariner (Reply 14):

Thank you for eloquently expanding on what I was trying to say in reply #1!  Smile

Quoting BlueFlyer (Reply 9):
Not to be picky, but what if all those activities were taking place on the right because boarding is taking place on the left? What came first? The catering truck or the passenger?



Quoting JRadier (Reply 10):
Don't you think that the cargodoors etc are on the right because PAX boarding is done from the left?

Exactly--the catering and baggage handling on the right are effects, rather than causes, of the passengers boarding on the left!



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User currently offlineEastern023 From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 871 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 15453 times:

Quoting B747FAN (Reply 6):
They board on the left in the Northern Hemisphere, and from the right in the Southern Hemisphere.

You must be kidding.



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User currently offlineUsnseallt82 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 4891 posts, RR: 52
Reply 17, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 15453 times:

Quoting Eastern023 (Thread starter):
Why Boarding Is On Trhu The Left Doors Of Plane?

You could always walk up the ass-end of some.  Big grin



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User currently onlineFlyKev From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2006, 1381 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 15436 times:
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What about the rear stairs on the 727s and MDs? Is that left or right...

 Wink
Kev.



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User currently offlineMariner From New Zealand, joined Nov 2001, 25080 posts, RR: 85
Reply 19, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 15362 times:
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Quoting FoxBravo (Reply 15):
what I was trying to say in reply #1!  

I could see that. I got that.

I just thought maybe a lot of people these days don't know about port and starboard.

 Smile

cheers

mariner



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User currently offlineUsnseallt82 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 4891 posts, RR: 52
Reply 20, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 15362 times:

Quoting Mariner (Reply 19):
I just thought maybe a lot of people these days don't know about port and starboard.

An unfortunate tragedy. People should know this stuff cold.



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User currently offlineFlyDeltaJets From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 1865 posts, RR: 2
Reply 21, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 15237 times:
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Quoting GQfluffy (Reply 13):

I think that that plane is sitting remotly away from a gate. It is not feesable to use a Jetway, and loaders on the same side.



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User currently offlineLVICS From Argentina, joined Aug 2006, 89 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 15194 times:

Quoting Mariner (Reply 14):
The left hand side of ships - "port" - is where the passenger ship/boat/ferry always docks and embarks/disembarks.

The right hand side - "starboard" - goes back to the earliest water transport:

Makes sense 100 %.
Not sure whether it's true or not, but once I was told it had to do with the ancient tradition of mounting horses on the left side.


User currently offlineEWRCabincrew From United States of America, joined May 2006, 5523 posts, RR: 56
Reply 23, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 15187 times:

Quoting FlyDeltaJets (Reply 21):
I think that that plane is sitting remotly away from a gate. It is not feesable to use a Jetway, and loaders on the same side.

It look like the jetway is at the 2R door. You could board from this door, but any loading or unloading of cargo is done after boarding, which would result in a delay.



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User currently offlineUnitedTristar From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 15122 times:

Sabina use to have problems with the DC10 Combi because the upper deck cargo door was on the left side. Passengers would have to deplane through 2L so the jetbridge would block the door. No cargo could be removed, or new cargo to be loaded, until the passengers were off the plane. This made hard stand loading ideal for these aircraft


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25 Post contains images TeamAmerica : Sad but true. Navigation lights are also derived from nautical tradition. We have a green light on the starboard and red light on the port side. Not
26 Post contains links and images GQfluffy : How about this picture? TWA (T-5) Terminal, the Satellite to the right, surrounded with aircraft. Sure looks like the aircraft closest to the terminal
27 JFKLGANYC : The TWA terminal at JFK is one of the only places in the world where right side boarding happened. I think is was Gate 26 on Flight Wing Two. All 747s
28 Post contains links and images FoxBravo : I clearly remember stepping off a TWA 747 on the right side at that gate after arriving from CDG in 1994. Very strange experience! I think almost eve
29 Keego : Starbord comes from the word Steerboard which is basically the rudder of a ship which used to be located on the right of the ship, Because of this bei
30 FlyinTLow : I didn't even know a DC10 Combi existed! Wow! You learn something new every day. Do I see that correctly that the cargo was loaded behind the cockpit
31 LHR777 : At LHR Terminal 4, we cater through both sides, depending on aircraft type. Widebodies (747/767/777) cater through the starboard side, Airbus narrowb
32 Post contains images MD-90 : 1. Because you always mount a horse on the left side 2. So the captain has less distance to walk to his seat.
33 Post contains images Stil : That's the right answer First aircrafts were mounted like horses, on the left side; in fact, you was only able to board on the left side because ther
34 Baylorairbear : To add to what Mariner has said, starboard was originally steerboard, or the steering board, referring to the rudder which was traditionally mounted
35 HAWK21M : Servicing is normally done from the RH Door,apart from Baggage loading.Away from the Pax view. regds MEL
36 Post contains images UnitedTristar : correct! -m
37 Goodbye : Well we know that, it had been ascertained in the last 34 posts before yours. What we want to know is *why* did it start happening like that?
38 Post contains links and images Dalavia : Not all planes have boarded from the left hand side. In 1982 I flew on an Ilyushin Il-14 from Yichang to Wuhan in China, and boarding was through the
39 Post contains links and images MD-90 : Perhaps it was because the Il-14 was the replacement for the Li-2, the Russian copy of the DC-3? View Large View MediumPhoto © Tom Kirn
40 Chuchoteur : ... If you wanted to know why you got onto a horse from the left, it dates back to the old cavalry days when you used to have your sword slung on your
41 Post contains images Keego : Wow iv learned a bit more than just avaition today! Cheers
42 Post contains images B777A340Fan : What came first? The chicken or the egg? Well same question could be asked....why do ships dock on their left side and not the other way around? I st
43 AirTran717 : This has been a lengthy post in some regards. I hope I have not stated something someone esle has said. I know that on the DC-9/Md-80/B-717 types of p
44 Ckfred : When the 747 was new, TWA used to, at ORD, align jetbridges at R1 and L2. First class passengers boarded through R1 and coach passengers through L2, s
45 Collettnj : Might be completely wrong but could it have something to do with the pilot sitting on the left side of the aircraft? Perhaps not so much for the maneu
46 Kaukau : That comes from a military tradition. In formation, there'd be lots of bumping into each other without standardized mounting. The sword is in a scabb
47 Post contains links and images B52murph : View Large View MediumPhoto © Joe Pries - ATR Team View Large View MediumPhoto © Joe Pries - ATR Team Those are both awesome photos AND a g
48 Areopagus : Did you read the article linked by Mariner in reply 14?
49 Post contains links and images Jetjack74 : Well, here's a TG D10 with a jetway on the right View Large View MediumPhoto © Rod Callins Well, the right side is where most of the service pan
50 Zkpilot : He must be, or talking complete bullsh*t! We board thru L1 or L2 down here in the Southern Hemisphere. I'm surprised that nobody has mentioned that t
51 Itsjustme : A "tragedy" that everybody doesn't know the definition of port and starboard?? You're kidding, right? That's like saying it's a "tragedy" that everyo
52 JRadier : This is most likely due to the fact that the aircraft are designed to get pax from the left, not the other way around.
53 Antoniemey : And Submarines can be boarded from either side. Everyone SHOULD know 24 hour time... it isn't just the military that uses it. Hell, Kmart uses it for
54 Jetjack74 : Which was my point. Transport aircraft have always been designed with the Port side as the boarding side for passengers while the right side was rele
55 FlyinTLow : Also, just to throw this in here: With cargo aircraft, the loading takes place from both sides, but the crew normally comes in from the right side, at
56 MD11Engineer : Tradition: Most early (WW1) military pilots came from the cavalry. Traditionally you climb on a horse from the left side. They carried over this custo
57 Post contains images Usnseallt82 : Yeah, it is. I'm assuming that most people on this site have some sort of interest in aviation. If you want to have anything to do with the industry,
58 Bond007 : Why?? As far as I'm aware it's not ATC or FAA phraseology/terminology. Sure, you read it in the books, but knowing what color nav lights are is unrel
59 HAWK21M : On our Freighters the RH Side is preffered as the Door is Smaller & Lighter than the Left side door. regds MEL
60 Eastern023 : Thanks for all the imputs.
61 RobertS975 : If memory serves, I have boarded plenty of cruise ships on the right/starboard side!
62 PIA777 : I was just about to write that I have boarded on the right side at JFK on A TWA 747-100 in 1991. PIA777
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