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Air Canada YVR-HNL-SYD A333  
User currently offlineYULYMX From Canada, joined May 2006, 977 posts, RR: 1
Posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 3533 times:

Could the A333 of Air Canada do that Route YVR-HNL no problems but the HNL-SYD ????

[Edited 2006-09-11 21:06:43]

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User currently offlineYULYMX From Canada, joined May 2006, 977 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 3517 times:

It is 4403 nm HNL-SYD it probably could be done, but AC never use it on that route always been B767-300 with A343 on occasion and very rare B744 in years past?

Is the A333 configure for only north atlantic route??? less Etops???

Thanks


User currently offline9252fly From Canada, joined Sep 2005, 1381 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 3290 times:

AC likes to keep it's A330 aircraft on the trans-Atlantic flights. For a very brief period AC had loaded the A330 into it's schedule between YVR-NRT. I don't know if the aircraft ever operated the route,perhaps someone else may know more. I suspect the A330 has the same ETOPS limits as they B763.

User currently offlineAirCanada014 From Canada, joined Oct 2005, 1507 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 3283 times:

A330-300 can do both routes as far as I know. If you look at the fleet info on AC's website it shows A330-300 range of 6562mi.

Here's the link. http://www.aircanada.com/en/about/fleet/a330-300.html


User currently offlineCPDC10-30 From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2000, 4773 posts, RR: 24
Reply 4, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 3237 times:

Quoting AirCanada014 (Reply 3):
A330-300 can do both routes as far as I know. If you look at the fleet info on AC's website it shows A330-300 range of 6562mi.

I think the figures on AC's website are a bit optimistic. I remember hearing of payload restrictions on YVR-LHR and YYC-FRA which are shorter routes and have much less flight time in ETOPS territory. The range of the A330-300 is just barely enough for HNL-SYD, taking into account ETOPS reserves. Most likely there would have to be fairly signifigant payload restrictions. Unless there was overwhelming demand, the 767-300 can comfortably operate the route, as can the A340-300 if more capacity is needed. No sense pushing an aircraft to its limits when you have better suited aircraft already in the fleet.

Don't get me wrong, the A333 fits very well in AC's fleet and is quite highly regarded as having a high dispatch rate, just that it would be fairly poorly suited for such a flight. The A332 would fare quite a bit better.


User currently offlineCarpethead From Japan, joined Aug 2004, 2908 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 3145 times:

Quoting 9252fly (Reply 2):

Yes, it has shown up on the NRT-YVR run on occassions but only in the summer schedule.


User currently offlineJfk777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 8089 posts, RR: 7
Reply 6, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 3064 times:
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AC runs to Sydney seen to be a low prioity, always the left over airplane. Never an A345 YVR-SYD nonstop. I know AC only had 2 but, they runs all these international routes with 767, YVR-ICN or KIX or NGO; is that reaaly the best plane for a transapcific route ?

User currently offlineCPDC10-30 From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2000, 4773 posts, RR: 24
Reply 7, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 3051 times:

Quoting Jfk777 (Reply 6):
I know AC only had 2 but, they runs all these international routes with 767, YVR-ICN or KIX or NGO; is that reaaly the best plane for a transapcific route ?

It is not the best, but its the best AC can do at the moment. The 767 is an unusual choice for those routes but must fit the bill fairly well as they have been run like this for years. Once the 777s and 787s start coming online I don't think we'll have complaints about their product over the Pacific anymore.


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