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Which Are Delta's Main Hubs In America?  
User currently offline8herveg From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2006, 1185 posts, RR: 0
Posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 20161 times:

Could someone please tell me which are Delta's main hubs?

I know Atlanta and Cincinnati are. How do they compare to New York JFK?

What about Dallas? I didnt realise it was a hub. I thought it was more for American Airlines. If it is, do you think it could offer a service to Gatwick?

And Salt Lake City? What about Fort Lauderdale?

If someone could rank them for me it would be greatly appreciated!

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User currently offlineLitz From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1764 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 20147 times:
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Dallas used to be a major (and I mean major) hub for DL ... they closed and dehubbed DFW as part of their reorganization.

Now, it's pretty much ATL, CVG, and SLC for major hubs.

Growing fast are JFK and LAX, as launching points for their respective international flights.

(most, if not all, of the south american flights launch from ATL)

I would not be surprised to see more flights out of BOS too.

- litz


User currently offlineAkizidy214 From Jamaica, joined Sep 2006, 408 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 20125 times:

Quoting 8herveg (Thread starter):

Those days are long gone. There are three flights a day to LGW, AA offering 2 and BA offering the other. AA operates a 763 and 777. BA operates a 777. AA was just to strong at DFW for Delta to keep a hub there.



DCA
User currently offline8herveg From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2006, 1185 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 20102 times:

I thought BA operated 2 flights a day to DFW? They certainly used to.

Do you think Delta could ever offer a daily service to SLC? Perhaps with a B763ER?

That would offer a lot of good connections to the west since LGW doesnt really have many scheduled flights to West USA.


User currently offlineWesternA318 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 5654 posts, RR: 24
Reply 4, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 20096 times:

Yanno, I just read somehting about LAX in their 1987 and 1988 Annual Reports after the merger with Western. They never said LAX was supposed to be a hub, it was always a focus-city, lol. Now I can see why there hasnt been a huge explosion of new stuff out of there until recently.


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User currently offlineNewYorkCityBoi From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 193 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 20082 times:

Here:

1) Atlanta (Both International and Domestic)
2) Cincinnati (Few International and Domestic)
3) JFK (about the same amout of International as Altanta, small domestic but growing)
4) Salt Lake (Domestic, few international to Canada, and rumors about CDG)

FLL and LAX cant be count as Delta Hub


User currently offline8herveg From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2006, 1185 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 20066 times:

Quoting NewYorkCityBoi (Reply 5):
FLL and LAX cant be count as Delta Hub

Where do Delta fly to from FLL & LAX?


User currently offlineCommavia From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 11559 posts, RR: 61
Reply 7, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 20042 times:

Quoting 8herveg (Thread starter):
Could someone please tell me which are Delta's main hubs?

Delta's most important hub, by far, is Atlanta. Atlanta has more seats to more places than any other airline hub -- for any airline -- on earth. Beyond that, Cincinnati, Salt Lake City and JFK are also strong hubs, with the first two being major domestic connecting points and JFK being less domestic focused and more tied to international flying to Europe.

Quoting 8herveg (Thread starter):
I know Atlanta and Cincinnati are. How do they compare to New York JFK?

Both are bigger. Atlanta is huge, JFK doesn't even come close. Cincinnati has far, far more flights each day but most are on RJs. Even still, though, Cincinnati is still a larger hub by far than JFK.

Quoting 8herveg (Thread starter):
What about Dallas? I didnt realise it was a hub. I thought it was more for American Airlines. If it is, do you think it could offer a service to Gatwick?

Dallas was a hub until last January. Delta left because they had no chance of competing up against AA at their home base, where Delta has far fewer flights to far fewer cities with far fewer planes. As for Gatwick, no, Delta never flew from D/FW to Gatwick nonstop, however they did have a flight from D/FW to Frankfurt when they had the hub there (inhereted from Pan Am) in the early 1990s.

Quoting 8herveg (Thread starter):
And Salt Lake City?

A big and growing hub in the west. This one is a shocker to many, as there were rumors for years going around that SLC was weak and dying and Delta was going to leave. Turns out, after D/FW was shut down, SLC apparently became much more important to Delta as essentially the company's only network link to many western and mountain communities.

Quoting 8herveg (Thread starter):
What about Fort Lauderdale?

More a focus city with lots of seats going to the hubs and other focus cities, although capacity there has been cut significantly of late with the pull-down in RJ flying and the paring of capacity in lower-yielding Florida routes while resources (planes) are being shifted to higher-yield domestic and international markets from hubs like Atlanta.

Quoting 8herveg (Thread starter):
If someone could rank them for me it would be greatly appreciated!

Based on size (number of weekly seats), I believe the current ranking is:

1) Atlanta (no doubt about this one)
2) Salt Lake City
3) Cincinnati (most of the capacity is RJs)
4) New York JFK


User currently offlineWesternA318 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 5654 posts, RR: 24
Reply 8, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 20042 times:

Quoting Commavia (Reply 7):
Delta's most important hub, by far, is Atlanta. Atlanta has more seats to more places than any other airline hub -- for any airline -- on earth.

In DL's eyes, its been this way since at least the mid-60's when ATL came very close to beating ORD/MDW.



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User currently online1337Delta764 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6489 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 20042 times:

Quoting Commavia (Reply 7):
1) Atlanta (no doubt about this one)
2) Salt Lake City
3) Cincinnati (most of the capacity is RJs)
4) New York JFK

I believe that CVG is still larger than SLC, but SLC has more mainline flights.



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User currently offlineTys777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 404 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 20010 times:

what about MCO? i know alot of southern cities have direct service to there, or would it qualify more as a large focus city?


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User currently offlineBnamaxx From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 20002 times:

I don't recall BA (or BCal before them) ever doing a double daily out of DFW, aside from the 3x weekly Concorde service via IAD in the 80's after the BN experiment in the 70s.

User currently offlineRwSEA From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 3093 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 20002 times:

Hubs (In Order): ATL .................... CVG, SLC, JFK

Focus Cities: FLL, MCO, TPA, LAX, CMH, BOS, LGA

In the past couple of years, FLL and MCO have shrunk somewhat, while LAX has seen increases.

As others have mentioned, DL finally axed DFW in January of 2005. However, prior to that point, the hub was shrinking for quite some time.

Quoting 8herveg (Reply 6):
Where do Delta fly to from FLL & LAX?

Don't know about FLL off the top of my head but from LAX they currently fly to:
ATL, JFK, SLC, CVG, LGA, BOS, HNL, OGG, RDU, CMH, BDL, CUN, FLL, GDL,ZIH, FLL, MCO, TPA.

Many new LAX flights are coming this winter, however - see DL's website for more info on that.


User currently offlineTWAL1011727 From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 626 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 19961 times:

Quoting Commavia (Reply 7):
Even still, though, Cincinnati is still a larger hub by far than JFK.

CVG only has 8 more mains than JFK so its really not that much bigger.
RJs - way different story.

DL mainlines cities CVG-65 // JFK-57 // SLC-83 // LAX-41 // BOS-46 // LGA-65 // MCO-34 and ATL-531 (all +/- 5 flts.)

Its far easier to see DLs mainlines than it is for their RJ fleet so I won't go there, but it substantial.

KD


User currently offlineNewYorkCityBoi From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 193 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 19943 times:

Quoting Commavia (Reply 7):
Based on size (number of weekly seats), I believe the current ranking is:

1) Atlanta (no doubt about this one)
2) Salt Lake City
3) Cincinnati (most of the capacity is RJs)
4) New York JFK

Well, I have been connected at SCL few times and I saw they have less than 10 flights a day on 767. DL has flights from SLC to Moutain and West Coast, but to only Major hub/cities in the east.
While JFK has about 30 European flights and Atlanta/Cincy flight with 767. West Coast flight (LAX, SFO, SEA, SLC, SAN..) and Latin by 757, and the rest are mostly smaller planes. SO I think in term of passenger, JFK must be comparable to Salt Lake. (I know ATL is way bigger DL Hub)

About the FLL, in 2006, DL has flights from FLL to LAX, SLC, LAS, MCO, ATL, BOS, LGA, JFK?, CVG, BDL, BHM, PNS, CMH, RDU. And I think DL flies out from MCO more than FLL


User currently offlineSESGDL From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3474 posts, RR: 10
Reply 15, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 19923 times:

Quoting TWAL1011727 (Reply 13):

DL mainlines cities CVG-65 // JFK-57 // SLC-83 // LAX-41 // BOS-46 // LGA-65 // MCO-34 and ATL-531 (all +/- 5 flts.)

Wow, DL's down to 531 daily mainline flights at ATL?!? I suppose this was higher in the summer. Last summer they had 670! That's quite a decrease. But that's what retiring 3 aircraft types and bankruptcy does.

Jeremy


User currently offlineDAL767400ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 19757 times:

Quoting SESGDL (Reply 15):
But that's what retiring 3 aircraft types and bankruptcy does.

Primarily the latter. This September, DL is cutting way more capacity than last year, with lots of flights only operating 4-5x times weekly which last year would have been daily. Of course, loadfactors will improve as a result of that, plus alot of maintenance will be done this month, in whatever shape or form.


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