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Eastern's Stretch DC8-61 And 63's  
User currently offline717-200 From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 601 posts, RR: 2
Posted (8 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 5724 times:

Having just bought the new Minicraft EA DC8-63 kit, I was wondering which routes and when EA had them in their fleet.



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User currently offlineCody From United States of America, joined May 1999, 1932 posts, RR: 9
Reply 1, posted (8 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 5720 times:

They did IAD-MEX and BWI to Bermuda, those I am sure of.

User currently offlineJonno From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 133 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (8 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 5667 times:

My first flight was JFK - Houston Hobby in one of these birds. When flying was enjoyable -- ah!

User currently offlineJetjack74 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 7438 posts, RR: 50
Reply 3, posted (8 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 5641 times:
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Quoting 717-200 (Thread starter):
I was wondering which routes and when EA had them in their fleet

The stretch DC8's, -61's, and 63CF's were purchased for, and used primarily on the DOD passenger and cargo charters to FRA, RMS and DNA from ATL, JFK, RIV, and SBD during the 1970's. All were sold off by 1978



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User currently offlineLGA777 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1149 posts, RR: 19
Reply 4, posted (8 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 5502 times:

I belive prior to the arrival of the leased Pan Am 747's and later EA's own L-1011's they flew many of the JFK-SJU and JFK-MIA flights, among others.

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LGA777


User currently offlineYyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 16367 posts, RR: 56
Reply 5, posted (8 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 5476 times:

The EA DC-8-61/63 were also common in YYZ. Operating the YYZ-MIA route I presume.


Panam, TWA, Ansett, Eastern.......AC next? Might be good for Canada.
User currently offlineOrdpark From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 576 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (8 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 5465 times:
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They operated pretty much on every heavy traffic route EA had...JFK/EWR to Fla and SJU...saw them in BOS, ORD...the -63's, by the way, were bought as a hedge in case EA was a winner in the Trans-Pacific route cases of the '60's and 70's...(they lost)

User currently offlineSierraAir From United States of America, joined May 1999, 204 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (8 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 5215 times:

Quoting Ordpark (Reply 6):
the -63's, by the way, were bought as a hedge in case EA was a winner in the Trans-Pacific route cases of the '60's and 70's...(they lost)

Here's the story of the DC-8-63 from what I remember....

Eastern purchased the -63 because the CAB ruled that Eastern be awarded Pacific routes. Deliveries of the 6 models began in February, 1969.

Later though, President Lyndon Johnson, a Texan, overruled the CAB and gave the Pacific routes to Texas based American and Braniff. Eastern got rid of the aircraft after it became apparent that they had been robbed and there was no appeal (he was the President after all). The last aircraft left the fleet in February, 1974.

Brian


User currently offlineStirling From Italy, joined Jun 2004, 3943 posts, RR: 21
Reply 8, posted (8 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 5186 times:

Quoting SierraAir (Reply 7):
Later though, President Lyndon Johnson, a Texan, overruled the CAB and gave the Pacific routes to Texas based American and Braniff.

American was not Texas based until 1979.



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User currently offlineJunction From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 778 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (8 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 5111 times:

Quoting SierraAir (Reply 7):
Here's the story of the DC-8-63 from what I remember....

That's exactly what I remember reading as well. They were for non-existent EA Pacific routes - except that it was only BN that got the routes from CAB, which is where the whole "president from TX" thing comes into play. I don't think AA was involved. It seems pretty weird to me that EA went ahead and got them when the routes were not guaranteed.


User currently offlineCRJ900 From Norway, joined Jun 2004, 2234 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (8 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 5100 times:
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How many seats did Eastern have in their DC8-61/63?


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User currently offlineL1011 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 1685 posts, RR: 9
Reply 11, posted (8 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 4971 times:
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One unusual routing for Eastern's stretch DC-8s was ATL-RIC-EWR. This only lasted for a short time. The time I took this flight they substituted N8612, which was a DC-8-21. I was disappointed, because I had been on Eastern's DC-8-21s before, but never on a -61 or -63.

Bob Bradley
Richmond, VA



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User currently offlineJonno From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 133 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (8 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 4859 times:

How did these aircraft not suffer from metal fatigue due to a high ratio of turnarounds/landings? I never heard of one of them landing and breaking in two.

User currently offlineBostonGuy From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 514 posts, RR: 7
Reply 13, posted (8 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 4820 times:

I remember them regularly on the MCO - ATL route.

As I recall, they carried around 198 passengers.


User currently offlineDutchjet From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 7864 posts, RR: 56
Reply 14, posted (8 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 4678 times:

The DC-8-61s were regular visitors to JFK......several Strech 8s would overnight at JFK and fly out to Florida cities and San Juan in the morning. I happily remember flying on a DC8-61 from JFK to MIA as a youngster, I still remember that we had a bulkhead seat that gave me lots of room to play on the floor in the space in front of our seats.....and even then thinking, what a long airplane!!

User currently offlineSANFan From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 5599 posts, RR: 12
Reply 15, posted (8 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 4593 times:

I think those Stretch-8s were the most beautiful birds that have ever graced the jet-age. I didn't see EA's very much (not in SAN anyway) but UA and DL (and NA, I believe?) flew them in and out of SAN for quite a few years.

There was nothing like sitting at the end of runway 27 (the spotting paradise off Pacific Highway) and watching a "D8S" (in OAG-speak) pass by on the taxiway (it seemed to take several minutes to do so), swing that long tail around and tear down the runway, always managing to lift off without scraping it's butt on the slab! Beautiful memories...

UA flew them from SAN to HNL, ORD, LAX, maybe the East Coast on occasion, and to SFO now and then. DL used them, I believe, only to Dallas and LA, and maybe PHX. NA flew 8s to HOU and maybe MSY (and of course, LAX) and I'm quite sure they had some Stretches in the mix for a while as well.

bb


User currently offlineL1011 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 1685 posts, RR: 9
Reply 16, posted (8 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 4543 times:
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SANFan:

Yes, UA did use them on the east coast. UA 59, a DC-8-61, used to fly from RIC-IAD-LAX-SFO. It must have been cheaper for it to overnight in RIC than in IAD.

Bob Bradley
Richmond, VA



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User currently offlineDrewwright From United States of America, joined May 2001, 621 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (8 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 4488 times:

I digress, but does anybody think the EMB-195 looks alot like the DC-8 Super 60? What a pair of sexy planes!

Drew


User currently offlineBnamaxx From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (8 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 4450 times:

I saw one at STL in the early 70's, later discovered it was doing the SEA/PDX run.

User currently offlineBHMNONREV From Australia, joined Aug 2003, 1383 posts, RR: 4
Reply 19, posted (8 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 4421 times:

Quoting Bnamaxx (Reply 18):
I saw one at STL in the early 70's, later discovered it was doing the SEA/PDX run.

EA used to sub the Super 8 on the ATL-STL-SEA-PDX runs of the early 70's, but it was a rare sight at STL nonetheless. This flight was normally operated with a 727-200, and later the L-1011.


User currently offlineSANFan From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 5599 posts, RR: 12
Reply 20, posted (8 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 4411 times:

Quoting L1011 (Reply 16):
SANFan:
Yes, UA did use them on the east coast. UA 59, a DC-8-61, used to fly from RIC-IAD-LAX-SFO. It must have been cheaper for it to overnight in RIC than in IAD.

Bob (L1011), to clarify, I was referring to UA flying the Stretch 8 from SAN to the East Coast; I don't remember all the routes they flew them on. I'll have to go visit my old timetables collection....

Of course back in those days, short tag-ons were done with any equipment, including wide-bodies, so it wasn't unusual to see D8Ss, D10s or even 747s flying RIC-IAD, PDX-SEA, or SAN-LAX (on any cx.)

bb


User currently offlineTeixeim From United States of America, joined May 2005, 131 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (8 years 3 months 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 4217 times:

I do remember the UA stretch DC-8s at RIC as a kid back in the late 70s and very early 80s. The only EA aircraft I remember at RIC were DC-9-10/20/30s and 727-100/200 aircraft.

Sure do miss seeing the pax apron full of 727s. Now they're over on the cargo apron as freighters.

At RIC we still get the UPS DC-8s and I remember the Burlington DC-8s sitting around all day awaiting the next run not so long ago.


User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26795 posts, RR: 75
Reply 22, posted (8 years 3 months 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 4217 times:

Quoting L1011 (Reply 16):
Yes, UA did use them on the east coast. UA 59, a DC-8-61, used to fly from RIC-IAD-LAX-SFO. It must have been cheaper for it to overnight in RIC than in IAD.

Either that or first and last flight high density commuters, sort of like the single RJ that flies ONT-LAX-ONT.



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