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NW 757-200 With Winglets  
User currently offlineNorthwestair From Poland, joined Jul 2001, 650 posts, RR: 4
Posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 14465 times:

Well it looks like we're going to modify some 757-200 with winglets. It looks like a total of 10 757-200 will have winglets. on Sep 24 looks like ship number 5636 will be the first one to have them.


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User currently offlineM404 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 2231 posts, RR: 5
Reply 1, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 14425 times:
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Source?? What company is providing winglets? Have the selected acft any other long distance alterations? Will they be installed "in house" (whatever that is any more). I don't doubt it but would like details although I assume company press will come out with it.


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User currently offlineTVNWZ From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 2415 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 14411 times:

Quoting M404 (Reply 1):
What company is providing winglets?

If it is the 757-200 they would come from Fischer Advance Composites of Austria.


User currently offlineCentrair From Japan, joined Jan 2005, 3599 posts, RR: 20
Reply 3, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 14264 times:

Wow this could mean BDL-AMS! or DTW-GLA... But it could also mean Hawaii expansion from the West Coast.

What would be the possible range of a NW 757-200 with winglets?

[Edited 2006-09-12 05:42:09]


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User currently offlineCancidas From Poland, joined Jul 2003, 4112 posts, RR: 11
Reply 4, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 14256 times:

finally... a pratt-fitted 75 with winglets!!


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User currently offlineSocal From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 473 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days ago) and read 14044 times:

They would look great..........


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User currently offlineFutureFO From Ireland, joined Oct 2001, 3132 posts, RR: 21
Reply 6, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 13629 times:

And how are they paying for them. Also where do you get your info


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User currently offlineAlitalia744 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 4764 posts, RR: 44
Reply 7, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 13623 times:

Quoting Cancidas (Reply 4):
finally... a pratt-fitted 75 with winglets!!

There is already a pratt out there flying with winglets FYI.



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User currently offlineFutureFO From Ireland, joined Oct 2001, 3132 posts, RR: 21
Reply 8, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 13580 times:

What Pratt is flying with winglets. I know of only RR-RB211 equipped 757's with them. TZ and UA do not have them.


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User currently offlineLaxintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 26170 posts, RR: 50
Reply 9, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 13545 times:

Quoting FutureFO (Reply 8):
What Pratt is flying with winglets

Sun Express has at least a pair.


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User currently offlineFutureFO From Ireland, joined Oct 2001, 3132 posts, RR: 21
Reply 10, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 13476 times:

Non-US carrier, I am speaking as far as US carriers


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User currently offlineJetjack74 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 7438 posts, RR: 50
Reply 11, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 13466 times:
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Quoting TVNWZ (Reply 2):
If it is the 757-200 they would come from Fischer Advance Composites of Austria.

Hrmmm, I thought it would be Aviation Partners, Inc



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User currently offlineSan747 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 4966 posts, RR: 12
Reply 12, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 13357 times:

Maybe it's the angle of the pic, but that 757 looks weird with that combo of winglets/engines...


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User currently offlinePilottim747 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 1607 posts, RR: 5
Reply 13, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 13305 times:

http://www.mspupdate.com/blog/index.php?itemid=33


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User currently offlineJetjack74 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 7438 posts, RR: 50
Reply 14, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 13295 times:
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Quoting M404 (Reply 1):
What company is providing winglets?

http://www.aviationpartners.com/



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User currently offlineTVNWZ From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 2415 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 13009 times:

Quoting Jetjack74 (Reply 11):
Hrmmm, I thought it would be Aviation Partners, Inc

I think we are both correct. AP-Boeing designed, patented and sells the shipsets. Fischer actually makes them for the 757-200. A Japanese company...Kawaski maybe???...manufacturers the others. IIRC


User currently offlineJetjack74 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 7438 posts, RR: 50
Reply 16, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 12973 times:
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Quoting TVNWZ (Reply 15):
I think we are both correct.

Cool, how's that for a wicked googly  bigthumbsup .



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User currently offlineTVNWZ From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 2415 posts, RR: 2
Reply 17, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 12964 times:

Quoting Jetjack74 (Reply 16):
Cool, how's that for a wicked googly

Ya never know!  Smile


User currently offlineNorthwestair From Poland, joined Jul 2001, 650 posts, RR: 4
Reply 18, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 12827 times:

I got my info from my weekly email from HDQ


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User currently offlineJetjack74 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 7438 posts, RR: 50
Reply 19, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 12565 times:
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Quoting Northwestair (Reply 18):
I got my info from my weekly email from HDQ

I got mine from Oprah



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User currently offlineKSUpilot From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 656 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 12512 times:

Wow those planes are going to look amazing.

Just curious, how come there are winglets being used only on the -200? Is it not effective to use it on the -300?


User currently offlineJetjack74 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 7438 posts, RR: 50
Reply 21, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 12490 times:
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Quoting KSUpilot (Reply 20):
Just curious, how come there are winglets being used only on the -200? Is it not effective to use it on the -300?

Word is, that the -300's will get the winglets over time, but after the 5600 series(5635-5649 only, 5650-5657 lack the basic ETOPs provisions) -200's get them. Whether the 5500 series(5501-5534) will get them is unclear at present time. These are relegated to domestic flying only, because they lack key fuel systems hardware required for extended overwater ops. They quite a few years older than the newer 757's. I suppose they would give overall fuel savings, but the age and the geographic operation of these aircraft is an economical question. If there was a shortage of 757's, I would bet that NWA might invest in modifying the 5500, and final 7 5600 series aircraft.



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User currently offlineNwab787techops From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 219 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 12233 times:

Quoting Northwestair (Thread starter):
Well it looks like we're going to modify some 757-200 with winglets. It looks like a total of 10 757-200 will have winglets. on Sep 24 looks like ship number 5636 will be the first one to have them.

This is true. Ship 5636 is out of service as we speak in Canada getting the winglets installed. Don't know of the date Sep.24? Just in a meeting a week or so ago and they update on this that NWA is going fWD with flying to the UK and EU with this A/C.


User currently offlineKSUpilot From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 656 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 12201 times:

Quoting Northwestair (Thread starter):
Well it looks like we're going to modify some 757-200 with winglets. It looks like a total of 10 757-200 will have winglets. on Sep 24 looks like ship number 5636 will be the first one to have them.

Can't wait to see the first images of this. I know there are some people out there who think winglets just look rediculous on the 757, but I just think they make it look even better. Kinda gives the 757 a "Made in the 21st Century" look.


User currently offlineJetjack74 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 7438 posts, RR: 50
Reply 24, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 12143 times:
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Quoting KSUpilot (Reply 23):
but I just think they make it look even better. Kinda gives the 757 a "Made in the 21st Century" look.

Kinda gives the economics of the 757 a 21st Century look too.



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25 Post contains links and images American777 : Here is a modification of mine and I think this is how NW will paint their winglets. Modified Airliner Photos: Design © Joe Perez Template © Jason E
26 Jano : My hunch is the winglets are going to be solid red. No logo there. Just like on A330s.
27 Post contains images COERJ145 : The -300s would look really cool with winglets. I hope they get them
28 NWA330 : I am an XJ employee and today I saw the NW 757 with winglets. I was very surprised because I didn't know they were getting winglets on the 757, till I
29 Centrair : They went in around Sept 24th and back one month later. Fast work. Hope you can get a photo. Anyone else at DTW see this?
30 TuffGong : I saw a NW 757-200 with winglets at YLW a few days ago, it was sitting in the Kelowna Flightcraft Hangar. I dont know if they installed them, but i be
31 Avion346 : I just saw this A/C yesterday [Sep. 24] in DTW. Winglets are solid red, and it definitely looks good. Didn't have my camera on me, and besides those l
32 Post contains images SNNUS : So service to Europe as planned for next year
33 N501US : There are a couple pictures of the bird at MKE on Flyertalk. Look in the NW section.
34 Post contains images Drewfly : Found the pics.
35 Post contains images N808NW : damn, if that was yesterday I was only a few gates down from there. I cant belive i missed it!! -Jason
36 BY738 : Do we have any more confirmation of potential routes for these beauties ?
37 Jetjack74 : It was inside the A330/DC10 hanger this afternoon.
38 Post contains links and images AsstChiefMark : Next! Design © Bobby CatoneTemplate © Michael F. Mc laughlin
39 Post contains images GQfluffy : *heavy sigh....it was only a matter of time...wasn't it? That winglet on the far side seems to be riding a bit high...
40 N501US : Thanks for posting them........Wasn't quite sure of all the A.net rules so I figured if it was legal some conscientous A.netter would post!
41 AirTranTUS : What would look really nice is red winglets on NW's old colors.
42 Centrair : Sweet. Did I count right that 14 planes will get this treatment? What would be the range of a NW winglet-added 757-200? Then we can place some bets.
43 Cadet57 : Oh dont tease me! :P
44 Gunsontheroof : Simple...anywhere NW is currently flying their 757s. I suppose Europe service may start when a few more retrofitted birds come online, but I seriousl
45 Legacytravel : I have pics of the plane I will post shortly. Regards, Mark
46 ManchesterMAN : Saw a NWA 757 with winglets at SEA on Saturday just out of hangar. Maybe I'll be seeing them in MAN in the next few years??
47 SkydrolBoy : Only 3 A/C will be getting winglets this Fall, The remaining 7 will get the mod done in early 2007. The Next A/C should be leaving YLW about Oct.8, as
48 Post contains images M404 : From Kelowna I think
49 Post contains images Airlinelover : Nice big red X's Chris
50 Post contains images N808NW : WHOOOHHOOO! I got to see it at MSP today. it was at gate F7 and it came in from DTW at 4:20 and was headed back to DTW at 6:45. I got to se it take of
51 Burnsie28 : Apparently the effected 757's will have a interior makeover and have 16 of the new world business class seats on them.
52 Post contains images Centrair : Nice unviewable pictures. Could you post links instead? Sweet. These things must be going trans-Atlantic!
53 Post contains images M404 : Sorry about the photos. Don't know where they went as they were up for over a day. Maybe it was the big size. I'll try again.
54 Centrair : Those are amazing! Thanks for posting. The 757 looks great with winglets.
55 DTW757 : Yes, those are great pictures, what airport is that? The NW 757 looks great with winglets, I hope I have the opportunity to fly on one.
56 Freedom747 : MAN-o-MAN. NW's 757s look the best so far. What airline's next?
57 Post contains images Mexicana757 : I have to agree the winglets on the NW 757 look nice.
58 TuffGong : YLW, Kelowna B.C[Edited 2006-09-28 16:27:09]
59 NASCARAirforce : I saw it at DTW on Wednesday when I was flying out to Denver on Frontier. It taxiied by but the windows in Concourse B in the Smith are crap and I did
60 COERJ145 : US Airways possibly?
61 Alitalia744 : Delta's on it's way with the ex-TW birds
62 SNNUS : U.S Airways will be fitting 7 757-200 etops with winglets during the winter.. No news on the NW european routes for next year??
63 ERAUgrad02 : I hope UA will on theirs. both 757's and 737's. It's a great investment to save money in the long run.
64 M404 : Ref the NW Euroruns - the rumer mill keeps coming up with Brussels, Shannon, Dublin, Oslo and Manchester. Would they all be from DTW? Dunno. Still wou
65 Post contains links and images N808NW : I found some more photos here. http://myaviation.net/search/search.php?view=®nr=N536US .....I was around the aircraft that night. It was a DTW flig
66 Post contains images Bh : I thought i would have to wait a little longer for her to show up in BWI, A very good looking airplane.
67 AvConsultant : The 757 winglets are HUGE!! I love the "red"!!!
68 Post contains images Jetjack74 : A bad exposure, but here it was yesterday(10/1) at DTW at gate A38 taken from my flight. When we pushed back, they towed it from the gate to remote ar
69 NASCARAirforce : Damn, I missed it. What time was that picture taken? I went to the Big Blue Lot parking garage to spot yesterday afternoon and was there from 4pm - 7
70 Jetjack74 : Well, my flight pushed back at 1535L, and when we were taxiing out, it was being towed across the taxiway over to the remote area.
71 DTW757 : I dropped family off yesterday for their flight back to FRA and I missed the LH 340 and the 757 with winglets. That's the trouble with the McNamara, y
72 Post contains links Burnsie28 : While those pictures were taken, I was right inside of the Terminal. I got a couple of shots of it, it pushed too late for me to get a good side shot
73 Web : Do winglets require additional training for pilots, or are the performance differences not that dramatic?
74 Jetjack74 : No, the performance cahracteristics are only affecting the economics of the aircraft. These winglets are what is needed to make them ETOPs qualified
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