Albird87 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 6714 times:
I was just wondering why Boeing decided not to build the 777-100 which was a shorter aircraft and desgined for domestic services and also a direct replacement for the L1011s that were in the Delta and Continental fleets. they did get this direct replacement but it was in the form of the 767-400ER. My question is why did they not just stick with the 777-100? I mean both 777 and 767 were in service at this time? was it more about costs or time limits?
Any comments would be great
OyKIE From Norway, joined Jan 2006, 2754 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 6629 times:
As Stitch said, the 777-100 would have been too heavy to become a good airplane. It would probably cost too much lighten up the 777-100 in order to make it competitive in CASM against the 767-400ER.
IIRC Delta and Continental did not need the additional cargo capability on the routes that they wanted the plane for, and therefore they got the cheaper to develop 767-400ER which shares some components with the 777 with similar brakes, and cockpit.
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DAL767400ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 6599 times:
Quoting Stitch (Reply 1): As with many "shrinks", the 777-100 would have been too heavy for the mission profiles she was designed for, which raised CASM too high to make her financially viable for most (if not all) operators.
Too true, most shrinks have proven to be real slow-sellers, like the A318, 736 or 747-SP.
Add in in the case of Delta that the 777 has too large of a wingspan to operate from LGA. Being able to fit into L1011/DC-10-sized gates was one of the reasons for DL in choosing the 764 over the 777 for domestic routes.
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