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Has DL Given Up Expanding At BOS?  
User currently offlineChrisNH From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 4120 posts, RR: 2
Posted (8 years 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 6514 times:

The 'new' terminal is lovely, but DL seems to have done little with it. Have they given up on expanding service at Logan? Transcon was a bust, it seems, both (yes, both) times they tried it. And service to Europe won't happen unless DL can fly to/from their own terminal rather than the Massport vault over at Terminal E.

Is this a case of 'what you see is what you get' regarding Delta at Logan?

Chris in NH

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User currently offlineFewsolarge From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 409 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (8 years 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 6500 times:

I'd say in the short term, yes. They have scarce assets to redeploy, and it seems BOS will come up a distant fourth behind ATL, JFK, SLC and LAX. Makes you wonder what opportunity price Massport is willing to pay to be stubborn.

User currently offlineDAL767400ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (8 years 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 6487 times:

For now, it appears that way. They will add a few CRJ markets here and there, like TTN or YQB, but that's about it for now.

Lord knows what DL's operation at BOS would be looking like today is Massport had officially allowed DL have FIS in their terminal before DL got serious about their massive expansion from JFK. Sure, they'd still don't flights to places like PVR or KBP, but CDG, FRA, DUB/SNN would definitely have been on the map, combined of course with all other Skyteam flights in the same terminal. That of course could then have also led to more domestic flights to feed the Euro flights, and so on. Alas, things weren't meant to be that way.


User currently onlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26537 posts, RR: 75
Reply 3, posted (8 years 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 6481 times:

Quoting Fewsolarge (Reply 1):
They have scarce assets to redeploy, and it seems BOS will come up a distant fourth behind ATL, JFK, SLC and LAX.

Fourth behind 4 airports, that is a neat trick  Wink

I also think those at a little airport in Kentucky have something to say about that ranking.



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User currently offlineChrisNH From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 4120 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (8 years 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 6476 times:

I feel worst for the poor vendors and establishments in that new terminal who probably never saw the foot traffic their high rents were supposed to be valued at. I would bet that some angry tenants demanded that their rents be renegotiated based on foot traffic not being what was expected. I know you can never 'promise' foot traffic, but surely these places had high rents shoved in their face based on a certain expectation.

It could also be argued (I suppose) that Boston has as much transcon and transatlantic traffic as it can support. Indeed, Delta's transcon service to LAX and SFO died quick deaths (twice) because AA and UA ruled the roost. It seems any and all carriers that have tried those runs (like HP) gave them up after a token effort. With that as history, who would dare try again?

As for transatlantic, I don't know what markets you could point to where there is an under-supply of service. From Boston, the markets worth going after seem to be well-served already.

Chris in NH

[Edited 2006-09-14 13:25:19]

User currently onlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26537 posts, RR: 75
Reply 5, posted (8 years 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 6476 times:

Quoting ChrisNH (Reply 4):
It could also be argued (I suppose) that Boston has as much transcon and transatlantic traffic as it can support. Indeed, Delta's transcon service to LAX and SFO died quick deaths (twice) because AA and UA ruled the roost

DL still has 2 flights a day on BOS-LAX



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User currently offlineDAL767400ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (8 years 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 6432 times:

Quoting N1120A (Reply 5):
DL still has 2 flights a day on BOS-LAX

Plus 1 flight on BOS-LAS, which qualifies as a non-hub transcon as well obviously and should not be neglected.


User currently offlineB752os From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 1322 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (8 years 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 6415 times:

Quoting ChrisNH (Reply 4):
It could also be argued (I suppose) that Boston has as much transcon and transatlantic traffic as it can support. Indeed, Delta's transcon service to LAX and SFO died quick deaths (twice) because AA and UA ruled the roost. It seems any and all carriers that have tried those runs (like HP) gave them up after a token effort. With that as history, who would dare try again?

As mentioned, you are aware that DL still has 2 daily 738 flights to LAX. I believe the 2 LAX flights have been operated for almost a year straight now.
Also, in the past 8 months, DL has either added or is going to add non-stop service to CHS, DAY, BNA, PHF, YQB, SAV and TTN. That's a decent amount of expansion. Granted it's not international, it still is expansion.


I think there is still room for BOS to add some transcon service. For a non-hub airport that solely depends on O&D traffic they have pretty good service.

[Edited 2006-09-14 14:14:26]

User currently offlineAirbazar From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 8412 posts, RR: 10
Reply 8, posted (8 years 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 6371 times:

Quoting ChrisNH (Reply 4):
I feel worst for the poor vendors and establishments in that new terminal who probably never saw the foot traffic their high rents were supposed to be valued at. I would bet that some angry tenants demanded that their rents be renegotiated based on foot traffic not being what was expected.

It's already happening. Some vendors at the remote terminal have closed shop (Legal Seafoods I believe it was), and the last I heard, Delta and Massport were working on an agreement to lease some gates at the remote terminal to another airline.


User currently offlineMCOflyer From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 8677 posts, RR: 16
Reply 9, posted (8 years 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 6371 times:

Quoting DAL767400ER (Reply 6):
Plus 1 flight on BOS-LAS, which qualifies as a non-hub transcon as well obviously and should not be neglected.

How are the load factors on that flight?

MCOflyer



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User currently offlineDAL767400ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (8 years 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 6348 times:

Quoting MCOflyer (Reply 9):
How are the load factors on that flight?

No idea, but they should be stable, as the flight has been around since before BOS-SFO started, so if loads were bad, it would've been gone by now. The 738 seems to be the appropriate equipment for the route.


User currently offlineMCOflyer From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 8677 posts, RR: 16
Reply 11, posted (8 years 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 6332 times:

Quoting DAL767400ER (Reply 10):
The 738 seems to be the appropriate equipment for the route.

Agreed. Thanks for the info. So it seems like DL is expanding BOS slowly.

MCOflyer



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User currently offlineWorldTraveler From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (8 years 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 6332 times:

There are opportunities for DL to expand from BOS, though, and they may come when the 757s start coming online. AA's pullout of several BOS-transatlantic markets certainly leaves DL some room.

You have to give DL credit for focusing on making JFK work now and not trying to do too much in the NE outside of NYC.


User currently offlinePanamair From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 4914 posts, RR: 25
Reply 13, posted (8 years 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 6315 times:
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It's all about priorities...

The first focus was obviously to take care of their biggest hubs - thus you had the depeaking of ATL, the buildup of SLC, the 'right-sizing' of CVG.
Next, as part of the international expansion, JFK had to be built up into a real hub. While it's difficult to tell whether DL may have gone for a BOS rehabilitation after JFK, the LAX terminal situation pretty much forced DL's hand in doing something more at LAX...hence the gradual rebuilding of LAX. They also figured that with JFK's expansion, they could temporarily take a break from the East Coast and try to shore up the West Coast next.....


User currently offlineJFKLGANYC From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 3508 posts, RR: 5
Reply 14, posted (8 years 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 6297 times:

"Is this a case of 'what you see is what you get' regarding Delta at Logan?"

I actually think that what you see may be better than what you're going to get. With talks about leasing gates to another airline and DL's focus on its hubs, as well as the realignment of Florida routes after Song, BOS is likely to shrink further.

But this should be no surprise. BOS is a horribly run airport. The surprise is that DL would invest a lot of money in such an unfriendly environment.

PJ


User currently offlineWorldTraveler From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (8 years 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 6297 times:

true... and LAX was waiting for a US airline to expand. If DL fills out LAX w/ service to Asia as soon as 2008, they will be sitting very pretty and be a much more well-rounded airline than if they solely focused on the east coast.

User currently offlinePVD757 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3414 posts, RR: 16
Reply 16, posted (8 years 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 6244 times:

with AA dropping BOS-CDG ans the AF codeshare - you would think DL might try a BOS-CDG (even if it's one of the ex-TW, ex-AA 757s they are getting next year).

edit: but then again, with AF already doing the route, they might not - oh well just a thought I guess...

[Edited 2006-09-14 15:39:38]

User currently offlineAirbazar From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 8412 posts, RR: 10
Reply 17, posted (8 years 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 6216 times:

Quoting JFKLGANYC (Reply 14):
But this should be no surprise. BOS is a horribly run airport. The surprise is that DL would invest a lot of money in such an unfriendly environment.

Please spare us with this silliness. Have you actually looked at the numbers?
If anything, it amazes me how the airport can support that much traffic in such a limited space. They have virtually zero growth space and yet, year-after-year the passenger numbers and airline numbers continue to grow. This despite the fact that the largest carrier at BOS (US), has gone through BK procedures over the last few years. In recent years LC carriers have preferred BOS to the detriment of other regional airports such as PVD and MHT. If BOS was such a horrible place as you make it sound, they wouldn't be coming here.


User currently offlineChrisNH From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 4120 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (8 years 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 6148 times:

Quoting N1120A (Reply 5):
DL still has 2 flights a day on BOS-LAX

Completely my fault. I thought DL had given up Boston transcons. I do hope service is working for them!

Chris


User currently offlineChrisNH From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 4120 posts, RR: 2
Reply 19, posted (8 years 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 6122 times:

Quoting ChrisNH (Reply 18):
In recent years LC carriers have preferred BOS to the detriment of other regional airports such as PVD and MHT.

MHT is going to see a real down year, no doubt about that. This is acceptable because it's an industry thing rather than a MHT-specific one. We aren't alone in showing down numbers in 2006.

I hope at some point DL mainline comes back to MHT. They stand alone as the one carrier that abandoned mainline service here in favor of RJs. No other carrier saw the need to do that. I wonder if there is any correlation between that and their desire to 'fill' the new terminal at Logan? It could be argued that DL wanted to 'force' its DL customer base at MHT and PVD to Boston instead, for that very reason.

Chris in NH


User currently offlineJFKLGANYC From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 3508 posts, RR: 5
Reply 20, posted (8 years 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 6071 times:

Please, spare me your melodrama:

"If anything, it amazes me how the airport can support that much traffic in such a limited space. They have virtually zero growth space and yet, year-after-year the passenger numbers and airline numbers continue to grow."

Zero-space? Try LGA. Try DCA. That's zero space. Funny thing is, traffic at LGA and DCA continues to grow too. There's always space to be found.

BOS has space. Not lots of space, but they are not anywhere near the breaking point. Hell, they are putting the final touches on a new runway. Could you build a new runway at LGA or DCA? No.

The problem with BOS is that it's a big city, but it's not the size of NYC, LA, or Chicago.

Look at NYC. The Port Authority of NY and NJ is probably the most inept government agency on the face of the planet. For years JFK was a disgrace. It's gotten a lot better. LGA is still a disgrace. And EWR, well it's just EWR.

But traffic at those airports continues to grow inspite of the Port Authority because if you want to tap a 16 million person market, you have to touch at least one of those three airports.

That's not the case in BOS. Having a big presence in BOS is not a must for airlines. Having 100 different int'l airlines fly in isn't going to happen either. So Massport has to play nice; but it doesn't.

DL wanted FIS in Terminal A for int'l flights. That means they wanted to run int'l flights from BOS. Massport said no. So guess what? No int'l flights for DL at BOS. Plain and simple.

Instead, DL sends numerous widebodies a day to ATL, JFK, and CVG. No BOS. They wanted to do BOS . . . Massport said no.

Terminal A is empty. Don't be mad at me for pointing that out.

PJ


User currently offlineB752OS From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 1322 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (8 years 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 6015 times:

Quoting Airbazar (Reply 17):
Please spare us with this silliness. Have you actually looked at the numbers?
If anything, it amazes me how the airport can support that much traffic in such a limited space. They have virtually zero growth space and yet, year-after-year the passenger numbers and airline numbers continue to grow. This despite the fact that the largest carrier at BOS (US), has gone through BK procedures over the last few years. In recent years LC carriers have preferred BOS to the detriment of other regional airports such as PVD and MHT. If BOS was such a horrible place as you make it sound, they wouldn't be coming here.

BOS is on pace this year to have the highest passengers total ever....even beating 2000. Also, out of the New England airports, BOS has more LCC seats than MHT and PVD combined. This is in no way a knock on those 2 airports....it only makes sense that BOS has the most traffic in the region.

Quoting JFKLGANYC (Reply 20):
The problem with BOS is that it's a big city, but it's not the size of NYC, LA, or Chicago.

I am having trouble understanding what you mean by that? BOS survives on O&D numbers, I am willing to bet that it runs over 90% O&D. For a supposed struggling economy and a population that has become stable and is slowly growing, the Greater Boston area does very well in terms of passenger numbers and service.


User currently offlineDutchjet From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 7864 posts, RR: 57
Reply 22, posted (8 years 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 5968 times:

Quoting Panamair (Reply 13):
It's all about priorities...

Thats the answer is a nutshell.......Delta cannot (and should not) try to expand at so many cities at the same time, thus BOS is not a priority at the moment. Never forget that rapid overexpansion is the number one way for airlines to run into financial trouble and fly themselves out of business, there are numerous examples of this happening. That Delta seems to have pulled off its huge international expansion without many issues (most routes met expectations from what we hear) is itself a minor miracle......many airlines in the past have not done so well.

Why is BOS now on the back burner? Delta, after planning to develop BOS into an transatlantic gateway, suddenly remembered that it already had a transatlantic gateway at JFK, just 200 miles to the South, that serves one of the most important O&D markets in the world. For years, Delta had almost a love/hate relationship with JFK - services would be added, services would be dropped.......total operations at JFK would increase only to decrease in the following season - finally, DL woke up and realized that JFK would play a major role in DL's new emphasis on longhaul and overseas flying. BOS would just have to wait......a couple of things to consider concerning BOS: first, that DL could not have its own customs/immigration at it terminal was a major issue against using BOS as a gateway city, second, DL tried the BOS-LGW route and it performed terribly and, last, DL is not the major player that they once were at Logan.....DL determined that its future was at its hub and gateway cities.

At some point, we could see DL try something new at BOS......maybe a few select transatlantic routes designed for O&D traffic (the fact that AA seems to have lost interest in flying O&D transatlantic out of BOS could encourage DL to open new flights, or discourage them since maybe the business case for such flights is simply not as good as we think it is). In the meantime, I dont expect DL to do much at BOS.....


User currently offlineCHIFLYGUY From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 141 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (8 years 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 5931 times:

Quoting Dutchjet (Reply 22):

At some point, we could see DL try something new at BOS......maybe a few select transatlantic routes designed for O&D traffic (the fact that AA seems to have lost interest in flying O&D transatlantic out of BOS could encourage DL to open new flights, or discourage them since maybe the business case for such flights is simply not as good as we think it is). In the meantime, I dont expect DL to do much at BOS.....

I don't believe AA has lost interest in transatlantic flying from BOS, but they are losing the TW 757's and need to re-allocate aircraft. AA is trying to deploy their existing fleet to optimize profits, which necessitates cutbacks in certain markets that may be profitable and desirable without the equipment constraints.


User currently offlineDutchjet From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 7864 posts, RR: 57
Reply 24, posted (8 years 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 5922 times:

Quoting CHIFLYGUY (Reply 23):

I don't believe AA has lost interest in transatlantic flying from BOS, but they are losing the TW 757's and need to re-allocate aircraft. AA is trying to deploy their existing fleet to optimize profits, which necessitates cutbacks in certain markets that may be profitable and desirable without the equipment constraints.

But dont you think that if AA was making a fortune on its transatlantic flights out of BOS,,,,they would have found airplanes to continue flying the routes? I realize that AA is losing a number of 752s, but AA is huge and could reallocate flights if the BOS market was important to them and they were making tons of money on the flights. For example, we dont see many AA Latin American services being cutback due to the 757 situation.


25 Airbazar : That's a myth. AA operates int'l flights out of terminal B. DL had plans pre 9/11 to operate a flight to Rome(?) and it's not like they had FIS at te
26 Goldorak : Yes, with the 2 daily AF flights BOS-CDG, code-shared with DL, it seems very unlikely that DL would operate a 3rd one with its own metal
27 Post contains images Fewsolarge : Ha! It's the programmer in me, starting with zero
28 A330323X : AA has been cutting its international flights at BOS, and one of the reasons is the lack of FIS at Terminal B, which Massport promised to AA and US.
29 Post contains links TinPusher007 : US is not BOS's largest carrier...DL is. http://www.transtats.bts.gov/airports.asp?pn=
30 B752OS : The 2 daily flights are seasonal.....I believe the second daily frequency is around for 4 or 5 months a year. This fall, the daily flight will be ope
31 A330323X : US was all set to restart BOS-FRA (a route they've operated in the past), even going as far as removing their code from LH's flight so as to send the
32 Jetdeltamsy : Delta has been on again, off again regarding Boston for decades. The acquisitioin of Northeast Airlines never saw much sustained growth for Boston. An
33 STT757 : I have to strongly disagree with you JFK (not the first time) as a Public Administration major who has studied in depth various Government and NGO's
34 WorldTraveler : But as long as no one else commits to a significant growth at BOS, the status quo for all airlines will be maintained. B6 will grow and DL will have a
35 Post contains images DeltaGuy767 : Massport screwed DL and as such are paying for it with all of the flights DL adds out of JFK. Ok sure even if Massport allowed DL/Skyteam to consolida
36 STT757 : It would be nice if CO were to move back to the "new" Terminal A at BOS, 4 or 5 gates.
37 LH423 : Again, I'm no fan of Massport but, as stated earlier, Massport wasn't the only one who killed FIS in Terminal A. Customs and Border Protection also d
38 ChrisNH : If you are describing the Northeast, yes. I agree. Despite a 'record' year for passengers at Logan, my sense is that the major legacy carriers have b
39 Vikkyvik : That's because Terminal D doesn't really exist anymore. I believe within a few years, Terminal E will be renamed D. The previous Terminal D is being
40 JFKLGANYC : "The Port Authority does a great job running EWR, JFK, LGA and TEB" Then how come they rival each other for last place on customer service surveys yea
41 JGPH1A : I have spent many an hour queueing for the blimmin FIS at BOS - idle buggers. There may only be 8 counters open, but you see plenty of uniformed staf
42 Airbazar : You guys crack me up with the "XYZ has been cutting flights out of BOS because of the lack of FIS". Newsflash, the only reason anyone has been cutting
43 Slider : They do? For all the talk of DL's reduction in capacity, their major t-atl expansion out of JFK, and ATL, and push into Latin, as well as now the LAX
44 Post contains images Airbazar : Where would they go? Anywhere else other than terminal E would work. It didn't take B6 long to find space at terminal C. 1 miserable international fl
45 WorldTraveler : Let’s not forget that passengers pay a fee to use services of the Dept. of Homeland Security at BOS and every other airport. While the facility may
46 Slider : It's not that simple....they don't schedule that AMS turn flight with enough time to download, tow over, and upload in the 100 minutes or whatever it
47 DALMD88 : As I recall DL signed the agreement for the new terminal A on 9/10/01. About a week later DL wanted to void the agreement in light of the new situati
48 Post contains links Airbazar : Not exactly. TinPusher007 provided a really nice tool above that shows that in just one year B6 is now BOS 4th largest carrier in terms of passengers
49 Zrs70 : A little historical perspective: Just about every major US airline at BOS has had transatlantic service. The following are either past or current rout
50 STT757 : The bad wrap NY/NJ gets in general from folks especially when it comes to the people usually clouds everything, NY/NJ =rude to some people. How about
51 JFKLGANYC : "JFK $9 Billion in the last 10 years EWR $4 Billion last 10 years" I guess you mean billions in private investment. Because the PA hasn't invested $9
52 ChrisNH : I'll bet every time a little NW A319 pulls up, Massport groans a little more. Seriously, let's take this a step further. Suppose NW was 'kicked out.'
53 GLAGAZ : GLA took over from PIK. Gaz
54 ChrisNH : I heard a funny radio ad this morning on Boston's WBZ. It was an ad for Logan Airport, and the tag line was, 'A World Class City within a World Class
55 JGPH1A : $20 of paint to cover up the old Pan Am and National signs, that's about all. The rest is vintage PA through and through. Time for a do-over.
56 JGPH1A : $20 of paint to cover up the old Pan Am and National signs, that's about all. The rest is vintage PA through and through. Time for a do-over.
57 B4real : Yes, technically there is a lack of DL mainline a/c. DL will make them available for Int'l expansion, but that is at the direct expense of domestic m
58 B752OS : Why do you hate Boston and the airport so much? Face it, Boston is ALWAYS going to get the bulk of air travel to the region. I feel bad for you, you'
59 SESGDL : This will finally change as the 10 ex-TW 757s are delivered from AA next year, which will be the first new mainline aircraft in the fleet since 2002.
60 B4real : I am very happy to have this small set of 757's enter the mainline fleet as well.
61 ChrisNH : I'll be a bit clearer: 1.) I like Boston as a city and I like Logan as an airport. I honestly do! 2.) I don't like or respect Massport and all that t
62 Apodino : I grew up in BOS, and that is one of the worst run airports in the country, the only airport I think thats run worse is DFW. The fact that CBP is only
63 ChrisNH : I think the 787 is Logan's best bet for more international service...not until then, IMO. If it's as economical as Boeing claims, it might be perfect
64 STT757 : BOS is not a CO hub, I don't think they care what B6 and FL do at BOS. As long as it's not EWR, IAH or CLE.
65 Dutchjet : I am surprised by your comment, you know that is not that simple.
66 STT757 : If FL takes over CO's gates at BOS to launch more flights to Newport News I don't see how CO should be concerned, the scorched earth policy is not ap
67 Dutchjet : What if FL or B6 add flights from BOS to FLorida, or to Las Vegas, or California......some of those pax travelling on the new flights maybe would hav
68 B752OS : What would you put SATA and Finnair. There is not doubt that BOS will have non-stop service to NRT within the next 5 or 6 years.
69 STT757 : Dutch if CO were to worry about passengers outside their hubs they would get into the trouble AA, DL etc got in over the last 6-9 years opening up to
70 WorldTraveler : And the reality is that B6 wouldn't be in BOS if DL had not built its new terminal. It shows how an airline can help the competition by growing its fa
71 B752OS : FL already is adding flights from BOS to Florida
72 JGPH1A : If AF and AZ get to be in A with Delta, how come BA, IB, AY etc can't be in B with American, and LH, LX in with UA in C. BOS needs to have CBP at eve
73 B752OS : There would probably not be enough space. Terminal A has a lot more space for largers jets than B does. AA has their 2 daily 772s for the LHR flights
74 Zrs70 : While we are at it, let's make a plea for not only IB, but JAL, KAL, SQ, and LY to servce BOS. After all, with all these airlines leaving E/D (if any
75 Post contains images Airbazar : There's an important factor that you guys are forgetting. Conventions and expositions have long term contracts, of 5-10 years. It will take a few yea
76 ChrisNH : Could some historian out there tell me whether Iberia left Boston soon after one of their DC-10s crashed at Logan, or did they stick around for awhile
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