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Omni Air DC-10 Config  
User currently offlineB52murph From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 241 posts, RR: 0
Posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 8338 times:

Does anybody know what the current seating configuration is on Omni Air's DC-10s? According to airlinerlist.com they have 6 -30s in service.

Do any of the ex-Continental birds still have the old Biz-First seats up front? I'll be flying them home from Turkey the beginning of next month.

Thanks

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User currently offlineBatonOps From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 746 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 8317 times:

I would assume they are 'cattle car' configuration. Lots of seats...little legroom...especially if it is a military charter.

User currently offlineFutureFO From Ireland, joined Oct 2001, 3132 posts, RR: 21
Reply 2, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 8237 times:

All Y config. Military Charters are the number job they have. The 757's they have do alot of vacation charters.


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User currently offlineHnlBoi From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 129 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 8197 times:

Flew Omni Air last year on a charter flight from HNL -LAS on the DC10. Configuration was 2-5-2. VERY little leg room and cramped.

User currently offlineBatonOps From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 746 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 8187 times:

Omni had a 757 at MDT yesterday doing a charter to LAS.

B52murph...Let us know how the DC-10 works out for you on the flight from Turkey.


User currently offline757dc10fltmech From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 47 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 8131 times:

Omni currently has a two class configuration on the lower deck galley A/C (N540AX, N630AX, N720AX) also N720AX has all leather seats. The Y class configuration is the 3-4-3 row layout.

The upper deck galley A/C (N59083, N17085, N49082, N810AX, N270AX) have the Y class configuration in the 3-4-3 row layout.

If I remember correctly 083, 082, have had seats removed to increase seat pitch thorough-out the cabin.

Also at least, two of the four 752 have a two class configuration with all leather seats.




Thanks for serving B52murph  bigthumbsup 



CAN DO!
User currently offlineB52murph From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 241 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 8116 times:

Thanks 757dc10fltmech! Now it's up to the luck of the draw which aircraft it will be...

Sounds like they added two more DC-10s since airlinerlist.com was last updated.


User currently offline757dc10fltmech From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 47 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 8103 times:

Quoting B52murph (Reply 6):
Sounds like they added two more DC-10s since airlinerlist.com was last updated.

N810AX was added in 2004 and N270AX was added in 2005. So yes they are behind. On another note Omni is well into the process of acquiring 5 NW DC-10s but I don't believe you will see them in the lineup until early 2007.

Check out the new website www.omniairintl.com



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User currently offlinePennPal From United States of America, joined May 2004, 170 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 8025 times:

B52murph: As some of the other A.Netters have said, a big "thank you" goes out to you and all of your comrades for everything you're doing over there. We all think the world of what you've accomplished...keep up the good work!!!

Hope the ride on the DC-10 is enjoyable, and it brings you home safe!! (I'd LOVE to fly on one of those beauties myself!!)


Respectfully,

PennPal  bigthumbsup 


User currently offlineTZTriStar500 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 1451 posts, RR: 8
Reply 9, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 8003 times:

Quoting PennPal (Reply 8):
B52murph: As some of the other A.Netters have said, a big "thank you" goes out to you and all of your comrades for everything you're doing over there. We all think the world of what you've accomplished...keep up the good work!!!

Ditto from me.

Quoting 757dc10fltmech (Reply 7):
On another note Omni is well into the process of acquiring 5 NW DC-10s but I don't believe you will see them in the lineup until early 2007.

And ATA is about to sign an LOI for 7 NW DC-10s.



35 years of American Trans Air/ATA Airlines, 1973-2008. A great little airline that will not be soon forgotten.
User currently offline757dc10fltmech From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 47 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 7966 times:

Quoting TZTriStar500 (Reply 9):
And ATA is about to sign an LOI for 7 NW DC-10s.

That's great can't wait to see them in ATA colors. Do you know what they have planned for the cabin configuration?



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User currently offlineTZTriStar500 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 1451 posts, RR: 8
Reply 11, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 7925 times:

Quoting 757dc10fltmech (Reply 10):
That's great can't wait to see them in ATA colors. Do you know what they have planned for the cabin configuration?

They most likely will not get full colors except partial colors similar to the TriStar500s N162AT and N163AT with a 4ft logo placard on the forward fuselage. As for cabin configuration, it is planned to keep it largely as-is except replace the business cabin in zone A with coach seats.



35 years of American Trans Air/ATA Airlines, 1973-2008. A great little airline that will not be soon forgotten.
User currently offlineCre From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 187 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 7789 times:

I just flew on an Omni DC-10 a few days ago to the desert (N49082) from BWI. Good service and nice crew. Plane is old and it's clearly showing its age. Seat was tight (14H) and since I'm tall it was somewhat uncomfortable. But it got me here and that's all that matters. I'll certainly be looking forward to hopping on one for the return flight home in January!

User currently offlineCovert From Ghana, joined Oct 2001, 1450 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 7644 times:

The only time I felt more uncomfortable flying was on World Airways.

Expect to be packed in tight, and on N59083, the overhead lights blink like an approach lighting system with sequenced flashers, and nothing you do will turn it off.

I thought it was funny that I flew that plane in January, and flying it again this month (Sept) that the same exact problem persists..



thank goodness for TCAS !
User currently offlineWarreng24 From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 707 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 7603 times:

Quoting Covert (Reply 13):
Expect to be packed in tight, and on N59083, the overhead lights blink like an approach lighting system with sequenced flashers, and nothing you do will turn it off.

I think that these configurations/conditions of the A/C are not befitting the people who are risking their lives out there. You'd think that the DoD would be a bit more specific in their contracts. I'm not saying that they need Biz class seats... but maybe something a bit more comfortable such as a Y config with 34" pitch.

And, the blinking overhead lights... oy vey. That's just tacky, not to mention annoying.


User currently offlineTZTriStar500 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 1451 posts, RR: 8
Reply 15, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 3 days ago) and read 7563 times:

Quoting Warreng24 (Reply 14):
I think that these configurations/conditions of the A/C are not befitting the people who are risking their lives out there. You'd think that the DoD would be a bit more specific in their contracts. I'm not saying that they need Biz class seats... but maybe something a bit more comfortable such as a Y config with 34" pitch.

And, the blinking overhead lights... oy vey. That's just tacky, not to mention annoying.

I agree and the AMC does have standards/requirements that are constantly being measured and inspected. In fact, operators will get written-up and demerited for these types of violations and can get significantly reduced future flying for too many violations(i.e. penalty box) until they are corrected.

As for greater seat pitch, generally the AMC prefers greater seat pitch, but does not make it a requirement. Our L15s were reduced from 307 pax to 283 pax about 3 years ago to increase pitch to an avg. 34" solely for the AMC.



35 years of American Trans Air/ATA Airlines, 1973-2008. A great little airline that will not be soon forgotten.
User currently offlineBHMNONREV From Australia, joined Aug 2003, 1368 posts, RR: 4
Reply 16, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 7512 times:

Quoting TZTriStar500 (Reply 15):
As for greater seat pitch, generally the AMC prefers greater seat pitch, but does not make it a requirement. Our L15s were reduced from 307 pax to 283 pax about 3 years ago to increase pitch to an avg. 34" solely for the AMC.

Is this pretty much standard pitch for ATA on the L15's? My company flew me over here on a TZ charter several years ago and while the pitch was certainly generous, the 3-4-3 configuration was not, especially for a wide-ass like myself.. Big grin

In regards to AMC, you are correct about the pitch requirement. Pitch matters not, just the number of pax you are able to carry. When I was in the Air Force at Rhein-Main, World would carry 354 on the DC-10-30 and 252 on their DC-8-63's. The -10's were very tight on pitch, with a 2-5-2 config...


User currently offlineFlyer732 From Namibia, joined Nov 1999, 1362 posts, RR: 22
Reply 17, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 7441 times:

Quoting Covert (Reply 13):
The only time I felt more uncomfortable flying was on World Airways.

World now offers at least 32" on all aircraft I think. On the all Y aircraft I think it is roughly 33 - 34" depending on where you sit. I'm 6'3" and I can sit down in the all Y config without my knees touching the seat in front of me.


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