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Who Are The Regulars With 747-300s In Service?  
User currently offlineEcuatoriana707 From Australia, joined Feb 2006, 33 posts, RR: 0
Posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 7024 times:

I flew today SYD-PER on a QF 747-300. I have a real soft spot for the 743. I remember when it was introduced into service in the 1980s it was such a big deal as the upper deck was so much larger. (I think SIA called it BigTop) At that time it was a flagship for QF and I loved spotting one in Brisbane. I think QF introduced its new livery with the big red tail on this bird in 1984... (or was it on the 762?) Qantas seem to have hung on to the 743s, they are now regulars on the transcontinental flights to Perth - (and I think to Japan, HNL and Mumbai...) Anyhow, despite the malfunctioning AVOD and worn interior, it was such a treat to sit in 1B today and enjoy this venerable ship.

Who are the other majors with 743s still in service? JAL? Thai?

Any info about their future would be interesting as well.

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User currently offlineLeezyjet From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 4041 posts, RR: 53
Reply 1, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 7015 times:

PIA are still using them regularly and Air India have 2 combi's in service.

Air Atlanta Iclandic operate them too.

Saudi Arabian Airlines still have some in service.

TAAG Angola have 3 or so.

There are a few in storage (or were) at JNB that were ex-SAA machines.

Corsair are still using them.

Dragonair are now using them as freighters.

Have a look here for any more :-

http://www.airfleets.net/home/index.php

 Smile



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User currently offlineDIA From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3273 posts, RR: 28
Reply 2, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 7000 times:

Don't forget Air India and Korean Air...and, yes, JAL and Thai...


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User currently offlineKLMyank From Netherlands, joined May 2004, 172 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 6896 times:

SLM- Suriname airways has the best looking...

User currently offlineGr8Circle From Canada, joined Dec 2005, 3098 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 6884 times:

AI has two 743 combis, in service since 1988.....they are used mainly on the BOM-DEL-NRT route and sadly, will be retired in 2007 when the new 777's come into the fleet.....

I enjoyed several flights on these two planes.....loved them more than the 744's...  


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User currently offlineA342 From Germany, joined Jul 2005, 4681 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 6856 times:

Quoting Leezyjet (Reply 1):
Corsair are still using them.

Only few left, being replaced by 744s.

Quoting DIA (Reply 2):
Korean Air

Are you sure ?



Exceptions confirm the rule.
User currently offlineDIA From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3273 posts, RR: 28
Reply 6, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 6825 times:

Quoting A342 (Reply 5):
Are you sure ?

No, I'm not. But, they were still in Korean's fleet as of last year...



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User currently offlineFanofjets From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 1964 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 6798 times:

Just to add some more:

PAX operations:
Air Pullmantur

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Air France

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Orient Thai

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Various freight operations:

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User currently offlineA342 From Germany, joined Jul 2005, 4681 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 6776 times:

Quoting Fanofjets (Reply 7):
Air France

Will be phased out in the coming weeks, if not already done.

Quoting DIA (Reply 6):
No, I'm not. But, they were still in Korean's fleet as of last year...

The last photos in the database are from Dec. 2005. I don't think they are still in service.



Exceptions confirm the rule.
User currently offlineBehramjee From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 4769 posts, RR: 43
Reply 9, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 6749 times:

i think ANA and KLM still operate the B 743s as well.

User currently offlineA342 From Germany, joined Jul 2005, 4681 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 6721 times:

Quoting Behramjee (Reply 9):
i think ANA and KLM still operate the B 743s as well.

KL: maybe some freighters, but no pax aircraft. To be exact, those weren't -300s, but -200SUDs.



Exceptions confirm the rule.
User currently offlineJfk777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 8329 posts, RR: 7
Reply 11, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 6610 times:
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743 was launch by SWISSAIR for use primarily to the USA, they ordered 5. They also had a route from Zurich to Mumbai to Hong Kong with them. What a great airplane, without it there wold have benn no -400, an even better bird.

User currently offlinePtrjong From Netherlands, joined Mar 2005, 3928 posts, RR: 18
Reply 12, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 6595 times:

KLM has none left.

Anyone know what happened to the Phuket Air aircraft?

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User currently offlineGoldorak From France, joined Sep 2006, 1840 posts, RR: 4
Reply 13, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 6529 times:

Quoting A342 (Reply 8):
Air France

Will be phased out in the coming weeks, if not already done.

I think it's done. The last ones were used from ORY to PTP, FDF and RUN. Have been replaced by new B773


User currently onlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9772 posts, RR: 11
Reply 14, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 6359 times:

Are TG, AI and Air Pullmantur using newer engines on their 743 aircraft? I always wondered about their engines as they are not the original engines used on the 743 but look rather similar to the engines used on the 744 (?)

A388

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User currently offlineGr8Circle From Canada, joined Dec 2005, 3098 posts, RR: 4
Reply 15, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 6307 times:

How many 743's were built in all......and how many remain in service....? Thanks in advance, for the figures.... smile 

User currently offlineVimanav From India, joined Jul 2003, 1516 posts, RR: 14
Reply 16, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 6250 times:

Quoting A388 (Reply 14):
Are TG, AI and Air Pullmantur using newer engines on their 743 aircraft?

TG and AI took delivery of fresh aircraft from the factory. Boeing at the time was offering the B743 with PW JT9D-7R4G2, RR RB211.524D4 and both the CF6-50E2 and the new CF6-80C2B1 options. The latter GE engine with minor modifications (FADEC) was also one of the options for the B744 launched shortly thereafter with the variant being known as the CF6-80C2B1F. Externally both the CF6-80C2B1F & CF6-80C2B1 looked identical and therefore the impression (quite correctly too) that the B743 of AI and TG had newer engines that were standard on the B744 as well. While TG opted to continue with the GE engines on the B744s that followed, AI reverted back to PWs for their B744s.

Air Pullmantur's B747-300 EC-IOO has a more colorful career having served several airlines since its delivery to Varig in 1988. This aircraft served with Air Atlanta Icelandic as TF-ATH and through them operated for Iberia as well under the same regn before going back to Air Atlanta Icelandic. In 2003 it came to Air Pullmantur with CF6-80C2B6 engines through a lease by Ansett Worldwide and continues to be in service with them.

rgds//Vimanav



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User currently onlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9772 posts, RR: 11
Reply 17, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 6183 times:

Thank you for the extensive explanation Vimanav. I knew there was something different to those engines on the 743s of TG, AI and Air Pullmantur.

A388


User currently offlineFlySSC From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 7410 posts, RR: 57
Reply 18, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 6087 times:

Quoting A342 (Reply 8):
Will be phased out in the coming weeks, if not already done.



Quoting Goldorak (Reply 13):
The last ones were used from ORY to PTP, FDF and RUN.

The 4 Air France B743 have been now retired from service.

F-BTDG & F-BTDH are stored at XCR and will eventually be scrapped.
F-GETA & F-GETB are stored at ORY

They were previously based at ORY and used to FDF and PTP but NOT to RUN.
B742 were used to RUN, later replaced by B744.
The B773ER will replace the B744 on ORY-RUN starting next February 2007.


User currently offlineAJO From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 575 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 6041 times:

Quoting A342 (Reply 10):
KL: maybe some freighters, but no pax aircraft. To be exact, those weren't -300s, but -200SUDs.

Actually, KL had both: 747-300s AND 747-200 (which were converted to Stretched Upper Deck configurations)


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User currently offline747400sp From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3588 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 5995 times:

Quoting Leezyjet (Reply 1):
PIA are still using them regularly and Air India have 2 combi's in service.

Air Atlanta Iclandic operate them too.

Saudi Arabian Airlines still have some in service.

TAAG Angola have 3 or so.

There are a few in storage (or were) at JNB that were ex-SAA machines.

Corsair are still using them.

Dragonair are now using them as freighters.

Have a look here for any more :-

http://www.airfleets.net/home/index.php


You forgot the Best one Qantas.


User currently offlineAirAmericaC46 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 590 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 5929 times:

Anybody knows what routes Orient Thai is using 743 currenty? Thanks for the info.

User currently offlineGoldorak From France, joined Sep 2006, 1840 posts, RR: 4
Reply 22, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 5818 times:

Quoting FlySSC (Reply 18):
They were previously based at ORY and used to FDF and PTP but NOT to RUN.
B742 were used to RUN, later replaced by B744.

 Wow! sorry for the mistake and thanks for the precision

Quoting FlySSC (Reply 18):
F-BTDG & F-BTDH are stored at XCR and will eventually be scrapped

what is this airport (XCR) ?

Quoting FlySSC (Reply 18):
F-GETA & F-GETB are stored at ORY

I saw them parked at ORY completely painted in white (without AF names and logo on tail). Do you have any idea where they will go and what will happen to them ?

And, another question for you FlySSC, AF usually operated from may to sept a daily rotation ORY-AJA with the B743. Do you know if they will continue this rotation with one of the new B773ER or with a B744 based at ORY ? It was always my flight of choice to go to AJA and I hope they will continue. bouncy 


User currently offlineFlySSC From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 7410 posts, RR: 57
Reply 23, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 5786 times:

Quoting Goldorak (Reply 22):
what is this airport (XCR) ?

XCR = Châlons-Vatry, located some 120Km east of Paris


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Quoting Goldorak (Reply 22):
I saw them parked at ORY completely painted in white (without AF names and logo on tail). Do you have any idea where they will go and what will happen to them ?

They've been painted all white for a while now ... actually they were still operating some AF flights without the AF colors.
I heard they've been sold and will leave soon somewhere to the U.S but I don't have any confirmation whether they've been bought by a U.S airline, which I really doubt, or a lessor or broker, or to be scrapped.

Quoting Goldorak (Reply 22):
And, another question for you FlySSC, AF usually operated from may to sept a daily rotation ORY-AJA with the B743. Do you know if they will continue this rotation with one of the new B773ER or with a B744 based at ORY ?

There should be no more B744 based at ORY next summer 2007. Only B773ER for the flights to FDF/PTP/RUN and 1 A343 for the Daily flight to CAY.
I am not sure if the B773ER can be operated to/from AJA ... but I'll ask !!!


User currently offlineGoldorak From France, joined Sep 2006, 1840 posts, RR: 4
Reply 24, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 5752 times:

Quoting FlySSC (Reply 23):
XCR = Châlons-Vatry, located some 120Km east of Paris

ah ah !! so Vatry is becoming a new Chateauroux ! for storage of old planes
at least, they found a justification for Vatry existence !!!


25 Jwenting : And the only freighters in their fleet are -400ERF models. In fact they never operated -300s as dedicated freighters, they were all 300M models.
26 Airnewzealand : We (QF) dont have AVOD on our 743 fleet. It is purely Total entertainment config only. We are the only Airline (QF) that have reconfig the 747-300...s
27 RAFVC10 : Is easy to see 743 of Air Pullmantur at CZM, PUJ, CUN and ATH operating flights to take spanish people to its cruises.
28 FlySSC : Last flight was operated last August 31st, PTP --> ORY by F-BTDH.
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