Clickhappy From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 9823 posts, RR: 64 Posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 20350 times:
Passengers on an airliner bound for Bristol were plunged into panic when their captain refused to fly them home, telling them the aircraft was unsafe. Evening Post readers on board the flight from Antalya in Turkey say a "mini-riot" broke out after the pilot walked into the cabin and made his dramatic announcement, then walked off the plane.
The aircraft, operated by Turkish budget airline Onur Air, was waiting for clearance to take-off.
About 180 passengers are understood to have been aboard the Airbus A321 for 30 minutes in stifling heat, as the air-conditioning was not working.
i am not sure how things are in US, but here in the UK sometimes people look for very very cheap holidays & go on very low budgets. once they are at their holiday destination, they spend all their money on alcohol, sex etc etc & probably have no money left on their last day.
i have seen atleast a couple of episodes of airline or holiday airport or something similar where they showed some young man/woman crying at airport because they had no money to buy tckt to go back home ( i dont remember why they didnt have a return tckt in the first place) & their debit card wouldnt be accepted. the airline kept them on standby & then found seats on the 2nd or 3rd day.
so may be this flight from turkey had such people. i could be wrong though.
Goldorak From France, joined Sep 2006, 1993 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 19534 times:
Onur air has a pretty bad reputation for safety and should be avoided. There have been several issues these last months with them. Somebody from my family took one of their flight 2 years ago and she has been really scared during the entire flight due to the very bad shape of the plane
Capital146 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2003, 2125 posts, RR: 39
Reply 8, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 19486 times:
I believe Onur Air's reputation in the Netherlands is particularly bad. I remember they were temporarily banned from there last year after a number of incidents, including a runway overshoot at GRQ (wasn't there one at EIN too?).
Lincoln From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 3887 posts, RR: 8
Reply 12, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 19010 times:
Quoting Futurecaptain (Reply 3): PIC says the a/c is unsafe. That's good enough for me and I wouldn't be flying on it.
If the PIC... or SIC... or MX person... or Dispatcher... is not comfortable with the flight I'm on taking off...neither am I. It may be an inconvenience, but if there's any doubt about safety, it's a hell of a lot easier to get off the plane alive before it leaves the ground.
Getthereitis is deadly, and an abundance of caution is warranted, IMHO.
FlyDreamliner From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 2759 posts, RR: 14
Reply 13, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 18934 times:
I'd never fly the airline again if the pilot got off - deeming the aircraft unsafe. If the flight crew doesn't think the aircraft is safe, that's definitive to me. The buck stops with them. At some point, saving money just isn't worth it. I wish more budget airlines could be more like WN. First rate safety, good service and decency, and still cheap.
Quoting Lincoln (Reply 12):
Quoting AI (Reply 6):
they spend all their money on alcohol, sex etc etc
Uh, wow... I think I may be going to Europe on my next vacation Wink (kidding).
Ohh, there are plenty of places here in the US you can do that.
"Let the world change you, and you can change the world"
Quoting FlyDreamliner (Reply 13): I'd never fly the airline again if the pilot got off - deeming the aircraft unsafe. If the flight crew doesn't think the aircraft is safe, that's definitive to me. The buck stops with them
Now this is where I have to say it depends on the crew..... Some think an "unsafe plane" is one that doesnt have an operative APU or maybe too many MEL/NAI/CDL's, etc....
Personally myself (MX) if we say it is unsafe than boy there is really a problem.
Quoting Goldorak (Reply 7): Onur air has a pretty bad reputation for safety and should be avoided
Are there any links to the problems they have been having? This one sounds fishy since the pilot was quiting already
Cwldude From United Kingdom, joined May 2006, 691 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 17877 times:
Knowingg the people of Wales and the SouthWest the riot was caused because they'd been left in a foreign country, with no money, on a plane with no aircon! and Im also 99% sure that Onur would have put the passengers straight back on that plane after giving it a minor check and a new pilot - which I for one would not be comfortable about!
Onur seriously need to start getting their act together or they're gonna find themselves in deep waters!
Thomson Airways - The UKs premier charter airline // now flown : BY -AA -AJ -AE -AT; OO -AX -AU -RA -BG; BRIG; OBYD
Rolfen From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 1822 posts, RR: 3
Reply 20, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 17537 times:
The mini riot may be not against the pilots decition, but against onur air for flying such an unsafe plane (come one, if the captain preferes to loose his job then fly on it... then it's really gotta be bad) and for being the root cause for them not being home on time...
Anyway, not to self: avoid onur... in addition to alphajet.