Sponsor Message:
Civil Aviation Forum
My Starred Topics | Profile | New Topic | Forum Index | Help | Search 
Bristol Brabazon - A History Lesson  
User currently offlineKatekebo From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 702 posts, RR: 6
Posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 2050 times:

Quote:
The Bristol Type 167 Brabazon was a huge airliner designed by the Bristol Aeroplane Company to fly transatlantic routes from the United Kingdom to the United States. The prototype was delivered in 1949, only to prove a complete commercial failure when airlines felt the plane was too large and expensive to be useful. Despite its huge size, comparable to a Boeing 747, it was designed to carry only 60 to 80 passengers, albeit in roomy conditions not generally found on modern aircraft....

...The Brabazon Report was backward-thinking in one aspect however. When considering the people who would fly in the aircraft they designed, they thought in the context of wealthy people who were the only ones able to afford it at that point. The idea that a larger aircraft would make flying less expensive never appears to have occurred to them. Instead they assumed that the wealthy flying the plane would consider a long trip by air to be uncomfortable, and they designed the Type I for luxury, demanding 6 m³ (200 ft³) of room for every passenger, and 8 m³ (270 ft³) for luxury. This is about three times the interior room of a small car.

In order to meet these requirements the Type 167 initially specified a huge 25 foot (7.6 m) diameter fuselage, which is about 5 ft (1.5 m) greater than a Boeing 747, with upper and lower decks. This enclosed sleeping berths for 80 passengers, a dining room, 37 seat movie theatre, promenade and bar; or day seats for 150 people....

...A tremendous amount of effort was put into weight savings....

http://www.aviationarchive.org.uk/st...pages.php?enum=GE121&pnum=0&maxp=9
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bristol_Brabazon

Sounds familiar? Luxury interiors with lots of space, bars, gyms, jacuzzis... Outdated business assumptions (luxury vs. economy then, hub-to-hub vs. point-to-point now)... Weight savings issues... Any similarity with any modern airliner is, of course, purely coincidental.

1 replies: All unread, jump to last
 
User currently offlinePtrjong From Netherlands, joined Mar 2005, 3884 posts, RR: 19
Reply 1, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 2005 times:

Quoting Katekebo (Thread starter):
Any similarity with any modern airliner is, of course, purely coincidental.

Indeed.

Like other British airliners of the period, the Brabazon was designed for elite travel by the jet set (avant-la-lettre until the Comet), ie, with a handful of pax and far too high cost per seat.

Whereas the A380, just like the 747, is designed for the masses and not really for bars and jacuzzis, as we all know.

Here's what the Brabazon looked like:
http://1000aircraftphotos.com/Contributions/VanTilborg/2887.jpg

Peter



The only difference between me and a madman is that I am not mad (Salvador Dali)
Top Of Page
Forum Index

This topic is archived and can not be replied to any more.

Printer friendly format

Similar topics:More similar topics...
Bristol Brabazon History Help posted Tue Sep 11 2001 09:11:08 by B737-112
Bristol Brabazon On The History Channel! posted Thu Jul 6 2000 19:22:45 by Ilyushin96M
May I Please Get A History Lesson: ProAir posted Thu Aug 10 2006 05:52:04 by SHUPirate1
Legacy And LCC - A History Lesson posted Mon Jun 28 2004 04:28:23 by Philly phlyer
History Lesson posted Tue Jan 21 2003 06:25:49 by Flyinround731
Bristol Brabazon posted Mon Apr 24 2000 04:26:36 by Flyf15
BA History @ SFO (question) posted Tue Dec 19 2006 18:06:33 by 28L28L
SAS To Fly Bristol - Stockholm With B736! posted Tue Dec 5 2006 16:47:15 by 8herveg
Help Needed: MD-11 History posted Thu Nov 30 2006 15:54:29 by QB001
BFS History Question, Aer Lingus MD-11 posted Thu Nov 30 2006 10:47:20 by Linco22