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User currently offlineCleared2Land4 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 176 posts, RR: 0
Posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 6478 times:

Does anyone know where i could find pix of LH's new F Class. Is it any different than the current one?
thx


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User currently offlineOHLHD From Finland, joined Dec 2004, 3962 posts, RR: 25
Reply 1, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 6299 times:

http://www.lufthansa.com/online/port...rvices/on_board?l=en&nodeid=781029

Maybe you search at LH`s homepage first next time  Smile


User currently offlineZvezda From Lithuania, joined Aug 2004, 10511 posts, RR: 64
Reply 2, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 6273 times:

OHLHD, that looks like the old LH F.

User currently offlineKa From Switzerland, joined Apr 2000, 660 posts, RR: 10
Reply 3, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 6212 times:

Quoting Cleared2Land4 (Thread starter):
Does anyone know where i could find pix of LH's new F Class. Is it any different than the current one?

There you´ll have to wait until 2008 when the first LH A380 will be put into service. Before that it will be a huge secret.

The new A346 are getting the old F-class.

KA.



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User currently offlineJfk777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 8289 posts, RR: 7
Reply 4, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 6033 times:
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Why is LH the only airline with F class on the upper deck of a 744? Most have BIZ there.

User currently offlineFXMD11 From Thailand, joined Aug 2004, 184 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 6020 times:

Quoting Ka (Reply 3):
The new A346 are getting the old F-class.

It actually is not "old" at all. How long is this new F Class in Service now?
7 - 8 years max.

Quoting Jfk777 (Reply 4):
Why is LH the only airline with F class on the upper deck of a 744?

I think it is a great idea. Lots of privacy I reckon. No other pax walking trough etc. Also own galley for their special cooking they have all the time


User currently offlineZvezda From Lithuania, joined Aug 2004, 10511 posts, RR: 64
Reply 6, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 5898 times:

Quoting FXMD11 (Reply 5):
It actually is not "old" at all. How long is this new F Class in Service now?
7 - 8 years max.

7-8 years is a long time for an interior to not be updated.


User currently onlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 30629 posts, RR: 84
Reply 7, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 5875 times:
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Quoting Zvezda (Reply 6):
7-8 years is a long time for an interior to not be updated.

Especially when it's paired seats and most of your competition - even UA and AA - have had individual suites for years.


User currently offlineTommy777 From Norway, joined May 2005, 93 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 5821 times:

Quoting Zvezda (Reply 2):
OHLHD, that looks like the old LH F.

It is the old F. Has been like that for many years.


User currently offlineTheSunseeker From Netherlands, joined Apr 2006, 218 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 5275 times:

Quoting Zvezda (Reply 6):
7-8 years is a long time for an interior to not be updated.

Well, those seats are not really used as much as those in the back of the plane.
They still are in good conditions  Smile

(ok ok ok...good maintenance is a better reason than the First Class load factors  Smile)



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User currently offlineTS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 4553 times:

Quoting FXMD11 (Reply 5):
I think it is a great idea. Lots of privacy I reckon. No other pax walking trough etc. Also own galley for their special cooking they have all the time

Exactly, it makes lots of sense, & I was actually wondering why so many airlines have their F class in the lower deck. Maybe because it's closer to the exits--you can deboard faster.

Thomas


User currently offlineAlbird87 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 4359 times:

I have to say there isnt really a problem with the F class of LH but i think there next change in cabin comfort will be in Y with the addition of PTV IFE in the seats as they must be one of the only big carriers now not to offer this!!
Also whats wrong with the idea of "if it aint broke... then why fix it?"


User currently offlineEcuatoriana707 From Australia, joined Feb 2006, 33 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 4039 times:

Quoting TS (Reply 10):
Exactly, it makes lots of sense, & I was actually wondering why so many airlines have their F class in the lower deck. Maybe because it's closer to the exits--you can deboard faster.

I used to think the same but had a chance to fly LH F about 4 years ago, FRA-SIN. I find the nose of the 747 was much better for F for 2 reasons: It's much more private, it's amazing how many crew walk back and forward to the cockpit along the upper deck; and yes when we arrived in SIN, the location of the stairs meant you waited for business class to clear before you could exit.

Travelling in the forward cabin of a 747 in a first class layout like BA,QF, SIA, new Thai etc is really great. On daytime flights the views can be panaromic as the cabin narrows at the front. And if you're in the 1st or 2nd row, hardly anyone will walk past to disturb you. And when you arrive, assuming the jetbridge is at 1L then you are straight off.


User currently offlineLredlefsen From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 151 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 3688 times:

Quoting Ecuatoriana707 (Reply 12):
I find the nose of the 747 was much better for F

Agree, and add a third reason: I personally find the top deck of the 744 a bit claustrophobic. The lavs felt quite a bit smaller than the ones on the main deck, too. I'm comparing BA (Club World up there, I guess) and Virgin Upper Class -- whatever equipment both airlines operate on LHR-SFO.

BTW, I personally prefer VS's second cabin in Upper Class, even though that one can be a bit louder. I don't like to sit forward of the front gear for some reason -- the turns while taxiing feel *really* weird.


User currently offlineJJeff From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 137 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 3147 times:
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My feeling: upper deck is better. Have done LH first on 744 LAX-FRA and return and several segments on UA 744 both in business (upstairs) and first (nose). Upstairs is preferable. Differences in aisle traffic are imperceptible. Views are better upstairs. (And the LH upstairs bathroom has a nice window which makes the experience all the better.)

User currently offlineOHLHD From Finland, joined Dec 2004, 3962 posts, RR: 25
Reply 15, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 3056 times:

Quoting Zvezda (Reply 2):
OHLHD, that looks like the old LH F.

LH needs to update it site Big grin

I am one of those non-rever´s that has no access to First Big grin not even to J Smile

....so I could see the difference


User currently offlineEcuatoriana707 From Australia, joined Feb 2006, 33 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 3037 times:

Quoting JJeff (Reply 14):
Views are better upstairs. (And the LH upstairs bathroom has a nice window which makes the experience all the better.)

But don't you find that the windows on upper deck are slightly lower than shoulder height when you are seated (unlike the main deck), meaning you have to strain down to see out while on the ground? (making plane spotting at airports a little harder!)

Don't get me wrong - I love the upper deck on 747- but the nose area is so much more exclusive feeling.

You need to try the QF or SIA F lavs downstairs. They are the largest in the business, and have windows which defrost when you lock the door. Also QF have these trendy porcelin wash bowls and mosiac tiles.


User currently offlineZvezda From Lithuania, joined Aug 2004, 10511 posts, RR: 64
Reply 17, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 2904 times:

I've had scores of flights in F on B747s with AF, LH, OZ, SQ, and UA. My preference among them is SQ, then AF, then LH, then OZ, then UA, so the location of the F cabin is not paramount for me. I have a slight preference for the nose, but both are good locations.

User currently offlineAT From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 1008 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 2786 times:

I too prefer the nose to the upper deck- it's more private, and less claustrophobic.

But here's another reason I think airlines have F in the nose rather than upper deck. Space. Airlines typically have only 10-15 First class seats, which fill up the cabin in the nose area very well. If F were on the upper deck, there would be lots of wasted space, or it would have to be coupled with business class, which would remove some of the exclusiveness....


User currently onlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 30629 posts, RR: 84
Reply 19, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 2759 times:
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Quoting Ecuatoriana707 (Reply 16):
But don't you find that the windows on upper deck are slightly lower than shoulder height when you are seated (unlike the main deck), meaning you have to strain down to see out while on the ground? (making plane spotting at airports a little harder!)

Yes, during ground ops you really need to crane your neck since the windows slope downwards a bit. When in flight, however, it makes it very easy to see what's going on down below you.

I personally find the nose claustrophobic. I've flown NH and UA F on the 777 and the 747 and I prefer the 777 because in the 747, the suites are so large it narrows the aisles and makes it difficult to move around. I prefer the wider aisles of the 777.


User currently offlineZvezda From Lithuania, joined Aug 2004, 10511 posts, RR: 64
Reply 20, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 2663 times:

Quoting AT (Reply 18):
If F were on the upper deck, there would be lots of wasted space, or it would have to be coupled with business class, which would remove some of the exclusiveness....

LH fit 16 F seats upstairs on the JumboJet without wasting any space.


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