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User currently offlineN270ft From United Kingdom, joined May 2005, 85 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 1704 times:

Hi,

I have a friend that im meeting at gatwick in the morning. He is arriving on First Choice 57 from sfb. On the Sanford website it says ''see agent''. does anyone know if it is on time or not? I cant seem to find any information from first choice and their office is closed. is there a way to find out.

thanks,

AW

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User currently offlineBMED From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2004, 860 posts, RR: 6
Reply 1, posted (8 years 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 1648 times:

You could phone a ground handling agent at LGW such as avaince or servisair. Even if they don't handle FCA they will be able to tell you which company does.


Living the jetset life! No better way to be
User currently offlineDestinations From United Kingdom, joined May 2006, 203 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (8 years 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 1634 times:

Quoting N270ft (Thread starter):
Hi,

I have a friend that im meeting at gatwick in the morning. He is arriving on First Choice 57 from sfb. On the Sanford website it says ''see agent''. does anyone know if it is on time or not? I cant seem to find any information from first choice and their office is closed. is there a way to find out.

thanks,

AW

Due to an earlier delay this flight was operated by a B757 (as did Fridays flight, which is absoultly pathetic of First Choice, but thats another story)instead of a B763 therefore it has had to go via Bangor, and its due to arrive in SFB at around 04:30pm Local time.

The only problem is, no-one can gurantee that your friend? is on this flight, as the B752 can only hold 235, probably a few less i would imagine than that or maybe not, around 60 people have to go with other airlines assuming the flight is full. Therefore the complicated answer can be shortend into the fact that your friend may not be returning on First Choice at all.

The LGW website has it down as 08:30 which i believe is subject to change quite a bit like i said above

[Edited 2006-09-16 20:19:57]

[Edited 2006-09-16 20:20:27]

User currently offlineBMED From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2004, 860 posts, RR: 6
Reply 3, posted (8 years 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 1609 times:

On the gatwick arrivals it says expected at 0830 and the flight operates via bangor if this is any help.


Living the jetset life! No better way to be
User currently offlineA340600 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2003, 4105 posts, RR: 51
Reply 4, posted (8 years 2 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 1528 times:

Ouch, imagine booking FCA for the legroom as in their ads and being confronted with 28 inches for 9 hours?! That's enough to send your chiropractor into a choma!


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User currently offlineN270FT From United Kingdom, joined May 2005, 85 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (8 years 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 1437 times:

thanks guys. my friend was in the star class premier, so hopefully he wont be kicked off. I know that song 757s which were 1 class held 199 people, so 235
im guessing it will be quite cramped.

He said that star class premier was absoulutely fantastic on the way out, but im going to be hearing some complaining on the way back from gatwick. lol

AW

[Edited 2006-09-17 11:16:34]

User currently offlineFlyingColours From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 2315 posts, RR: 10
Reply 6, posted (8 years 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 1311 times:

Quoting N270FT (Reply 5):
my friend was in the star class premier, so hopefully he wont be kicked off.

Then there is a small chance he may be put on a direct flight with another operator (in thier premier cabins).

Quoting A340600 (Reply 4):
Ouch, imagine booking FCA for the legroom as in their ads and being confronted with 28 inches for 9 hours?

The legroom on our 757s is not that bad, its 32" I believe (but I may be wrong, I've just done the night RHO so I'm a little dizzy  Smile)

The 757s seat 233 passengers.

They are not ideal for Transatlantic crossings but since thats what they used to do in the olden days they are still capable of doing them. Its a case of working out a few factors, could they get another airline to sub in an aircraft to operate the flights (to SFB and back), could they sort out the 767 in time and could they use a 757?

Its a case of the folks in SFB want to go home and the ones in LGW want to go on holiday, so the airline needs to keep the delays to an absolute minimum. Obviously they couldn't get another airline to operate the flights (either because of scheduling, costs or because the other airlines service or reputation was too low), the result? - We use our own aircraft instead, it just takes a while longer.

Granted nobody likes flying long routes on a narrowbody and everyone is going to be pissed on the count of the aircraft differences, mainly seating, and IFE but the services offered will be the same, so hopefully they would have added a few extra crew to the flight to make it run smoother, but then again - its a transat so you have all the time in the world right?  Wink

I'm going back to bed  Smile

Phil
FlyingColours



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User currently offline757lgw From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 152 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (8 years 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 1302 times:

FCA 757's are 28" of leg room
i will never fly charter again after that , god help theese poor people.
FCA are the worst airline that i have flown on.


User currently offlinePlanesarecool From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 4124 posts, RR: 11
Reply 8, posted (8 years 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 1240 times:

Quoting 757lgw (Reply 7):
god help theese poor people.

Yeah let's feel sorry for these 'poor people,' who are spending the next week or two on holiday in Florida  Yeah sure

I'm sure they'd rather a 2 hour delay and travel on a B757 than a 24+ hour delay. And they will be given compensation for not being given the B767-300 service (IFE etc).


User currently offlineDestinations From United Kingdom, joined May 2006, 203 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (8 years 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 1157 times:

Quoting Planesarecool (Reply 8):
I'm sure they'd rather a 2 hour delay and travel on a B757 than a 24+ hour delay. And they will be given compensation for not being given the B767-300 service (IFE etc).

Even so the problem still isnt sorted, it seems AN hasnt operated for a couple of days now, the Maldives flight is 24 hours delayed, then the Mombasa and so on.

Does anyone know what is actually the problem with G-OOAN to be out of service for so long


User currently offlineSausageandmash From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2004, 65 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (8 years 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 1072 times:

Bird strike damaged the wing. Part had to be flown in from Seattle and it's taking time to get fixed. Maldives flight delayed longer due to seaplane transfers in the islands not able to fly in the dark, so flight has to be scheduled to arrive in Male at daytime.

Yes, people will be annoyed at not having the longhaul service and being delayed. But they are being put up in hotels in the Gatwick area, they are being given compensation, they are still getting on holiday.

Would you rather fly to Orlando on a 757 or a 767 with a bloody great hole in the wing?

Believe it or not boys, most people just want to go on holiday and aren't as anally retentive about what the airline is like as you lot are.



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User currently offlineJetset7E7 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2004, 1090 posts, RR: 15
Reply 11, posted (8 years 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 1062 times:

Quoting BMED (Reply 1):
You could phone a ground handling agent at LGW such as avaince or servisair. Even if they don't handle FCA they will be able to tell you which company does.

The ground handler for FCA at LGW is Groundstar (known everywhere else in the UK as Swissport UK)

Quoting 757lgw (Reply 7):
FCA 757's are 28" of leg room
i will never fly charter again after that , god help theese poor people.
FCA are the worst airline that i have flown on.



Quoting A340600 (Reply 4):
Ouch, imagine booking FCA for the legroom as in their ads and being confronted with 28 inches for 9 hours?! That's enough to send your chiropractor into a choma!

Woah!, sit down! First Choice are only using a 757 on that route due to G-OOAN being AOG. They are only using a 757, as its cheaper to use our own aircraft than sub-charter one.

Like Sausageandmash said people don't normally care about the airline, they just want to go away and enjoy what they have spent all year saving up for!

Mark



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User currently offlineDestinations From United Kingdom, joined May 2006, 203 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (8 years 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 1052 times:

Quoting Sausageandmash (Reply 10):
Bird strike damaged the wing

Must have been a big bird to do damage for three days worth of repairs.

Thanks for that anyway.


User currently offlinePlanesarecool From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 4124 posts, RR: 11
Reply 13, posted (8 years 1 week 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 1006 times:

Quoting Destinations (Reply 12):
Must have been a big bird to do damage for three days worth of repairs.

It doesn't take much, when the aircraft is moving so fast. And like sausageandmash said, they had to fly a part in from Seattle. Just doing that takes up around half a day.


User currently offlineFlymya380 From United Kingdom, joined May 2006, 53 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (8 years 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 982 times:

I would never fly FCA again i flew to sfb last year & payed for extra leg room, ok going but coming back i got stuck on a 757 with no leg room and to top it all i had the toilet behind so i could not recline. I'm 6 foot 4" & the girlie is 6 foot 2" so it was not very comfortable.
I complained to first choice & all i got was a cheque back for half what i payed for the extra leg room.No letter saying sorry just the cheque.



Take care & be happy
User currently offlineA340600 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2003, 4105 posts, RR: 51
Reply 15, posted (8 years 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 946 times:

Quoting Sausageandmash (Reply 10):
Believe it or not boys, most people just want to go on holiday and aren't as anally retentive about what the airline is like as you lot are.

Yes, but this is very different in that the shorthaul/longhaul products are so different on FCA, they plaster all about their new longhaul everywhere they can in brochures, tv etc so more customers than usual would know what to expect.

Quoting Jetset7E7 (Reply 11):
Woah!, sit down! First Choice are only using a 757 on that route due to G-OOAN being AOG. They are only using a 757, as its cheaper to use our own aircraft than sub-charter one.

I know, I was merely stating what a disappointment on the legroom side it must have been for the pax, but at least they're going on holiday!

Sam Smile



Despite the name I am a Boeing man through and through!
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