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UA And The 757s  
User currently offlineFL370 From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 252 posts, RR: 0
Posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 6193 times:

are the only UA 757s that are painted in the new paint used only for P.S service? other than those used for P.S service, how many 757's are in the new paint?


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User currently offlinePlanecrazy2 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 615 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 6174 times:

I don't know how many non p.s. aircraft are in the NC but there are some out there.


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User currently offlineSESGDL From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3466 posts, RR: 10
Reply 2, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 6164 times:

As of now, yes. Only P.S. 757s are in new paint. I count 13 757-200s in NC.

Jeremy


User currently offlinePlanecrazy2 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 615 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 6123 times:

You might be right but I am almost certain there is at least 1 non-p.s. 752 in the nc.

[Edited 2006-09-16 20:17:59]


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User currently offlineFriendlySkies From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 4105 posts, RR: 5
Reply 4, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 6043 times:

I believe by last count there are 14 total 757s in the new livery. And I'm positive one non-p.s. is because I saw it at ORD in late August.

User currently offlineTundra767 From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2005, 430 posts, RR: 4
Reply 5, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 5990 times:

Just flew a non P.S. in the new colors

User currently offlineAmwest2United From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 409 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 5812 times:
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Quoting SESGDL (Reply 2):
As of now, yes. Only P.S. 757s are in new paint

Incorrect, there are a few Non PS 757's. A couple of weeks ago we had 2 NC 757's, 1 NC 319, 2 NC A320, 1 NC 733 and 1 OC A320 in PHL overnight. Almost 100% NC



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User currently offlineATLAaron From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 1023 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 5801 times:
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I have a flight coming up soon on a UA 757, how do I know if it has PS or not?

User currently offlineUnitedNRT From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 284 posts, RR: 9
Reply 8, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 5793 times:

If its not JFK-LAX/SFO it wont be a PS configured aircraft as the subfleet is designated to those said stages only.


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User currently offlinePolar1 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 150 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 5661 times:

This was my post from about a week ago. It supports several points already mentioned and questioned. I count 13 (757) in P.S. I was told that N558UA is in new colors but not the P.S. configuration although I haven't confirmed.

For those interested, here is the current list that I have regarding the new paint. Updated through photos here and witnessed in person. Any updates will be appreciated!  Smile

NxxxUA

319: (4) of 55: 801, 802, 803, 804
320: (7) of 39: 403, 411, 412, 417, 420, 423, 426
733: (9) of 61: 366, 367, 369, 375, 376, 377, 381, 385, 394
735: (7) of 30: 910, 912, 913, 914, 918, 923, 930
744: (6) of 30: 175, 179, 180, 196, 198, 199
757: (14) of 97: 502, 505, 508, 510, 512, 517, 518, 525, 532, 554, 555, 557, 558, 560
763: (11) of 34: 641, 642, 643, 644, 646, 647, 649, 652, 655, 657, 663
777: (10) of 51: 209, 217, 220, 221, 769, 772, 774, 775, 777, 785

Total fleet numbers are current active according to ATDB. Does not include STAR ALLIANCE aircraft N218UA (777) or N653UA (763) nor any Ted (320).

Also Thanx to QFATWA for some recent updates and corrections!
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User currently offlineDbo861 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 883 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 5245 times:

Kind of off subject, but how many 757s does United have in the P.S. configuration?

User currently offlineDeltAirlines From United States of America, joined May 1999, 8894 posts, RR: 12
Reply 11, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 5144 times:

Saw a UA 757 in the new colours at SNA a couple of weeks ago. Doubt it was a P.S. plane unless it was a substitution (plane came in from SFO).

User currently offline777fan From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 2492 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 5054 times:

I have a couple of pics that I'll share when I get off my ass and post a TR!

777fan



DC-8 61/63/71 DC-9-30/50 MD-80/82/83 DC-10-10/30 MD-11 717 721/2 732/3/4/5/G/8/9 741/2/4 752 762/3 777 A306/319/20/33 AT
User currently offlineJfk777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 8283 posts, RR: 7
Reply 13, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 3962 times:
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I loved the older grey with the Blue tail.

User currently offlineRamprat74 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1522 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 3962 times:

Aircraft 5409, 5427, 5491 are painted in the new livery. The PS aircraft are 5702, 5705, 5708, 5710, 5712, 5717, 5718, 5725, 5732, 5754, 5755, 5757, 5760.

Aircraft 5415 is at VCV right now being painted.


User currently offlineUnited767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 356 posts, RR: 5
Reply 15, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 3846 times:

Quoting Ramprat74 (Reply 14):
Aircraft 5415 is at VCV right now being painted

I always thought our planes were painted at AMA?

[Edited 2006-09-17 17:09:20]


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User currently offlineBRAVO7E7 From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 1840 posts, RR: 17
Reply 16, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 3734 times:

Quoting ATLAaron (Reply 7):
I have a flight coming up soon on a UA 757, how do I know if it has PS or not?

In advance, it is only PS if your flight is between JFK-LAX.SFO. At the airport, the plane has a little PS logo on the front if it is PS.


User currently offlineScaledesigns From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 211 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 3664 times:

I saw 2 at ORD at the same time a few weeks ago.So not only PS.


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User currently offline777fan From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 2492 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 3377 times:

Quoting Jfk777 (Reply 13):
I loved the older grey with the Blue tail.

I used to think it looked distinguished and sophisiticated until I saw it next to the new livery. The blue/grey scheme looks dark and dull whereas the new livery is bright, cheery and clean. The mainline/Ted tail differing color schemes are a neat idea, too.


777fan



DC-8 61/63/71 DC-9-30/50 MD-80/82/83 DC-10-10/30 MD-11 717 721/2 732/3/4/5/G/8/9 741/2/4 752 762/3 777 A306/319/20/33 AT
User currently offlineUnited787 From United States of America, joined May 2005, 2691 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 3106 times:

Quoting Polar1 (Reply 9):
319: (4) of 55: 801, 802, 803, 804
320: (7) of 39: 403, 411, 412, 417, 420, 423, 426
733: (9) of 61: 366, 367, 369, 375, 376, 377, 381, 385, 394
735: (7) of 30: 910, 912, 913, 914, 918, 923, 930
744: (6) of 30: 175, 179, 180, 196, 198, 199
757: (14) of 97: 502, 505, 508, 510, 512, 517, 518, 525, 532, 554, 555, 557, 558, 560
763: (11) of 34: 641, 642, 643, 644, 646, 647, 649, 652, 655, 657, 663
777: (10) of 51: 209, 217, 220, 221, 769, 772, 774, 775, 777, 785

Thank you for the update. This information reconfirms my hunch which is that United's livery change seems to be going extremely slow. I was ORD last week and the only new livery I saw was UAX planes. Look at the numbers below and let me know what you think.

The livery change started about Feb. 2004, at least the earliest pictures I could find in the A-Net database is from that time. So...68 planes have been painted in 30 months. That is only 17% of the entire fleet. At this rate, all 397 planes listed above (not including TED and United Express) would take 175 months, or about 14.5 years. That means that United will complete it's livery change in Sept. 2018. I can't believe it would take this long, but...

Why is this so slow? I know the last livery change didn't take this long and that no other airline has taken this long.

I know adding TED and UAX planes would increase the rate, but it is my understanding that the TED planes were painted ahead of the regular schedule to get them in the TED livery and many of the UAX planes have been painted because they are new to United because they are with new regional carriers.


User currently offlineUAL777UK From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2005, 3356 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 3098 times:

Quoting United787 (Reply 19):
Why is this so slow? I know the last livery change didn't take this long and that no other airline has taken this long.

IMHO its because the fleet is smaller than the last livery change and as a result especially durng the summer months the fleet is basicaly doing what it does best and flying all the time and making money for UA.


User currently offlineSESGDL From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3466 posts, RR: 10
Reply 21, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 3085 times:

Quoting Polar1 (Reply 9):
319: (4) of 55: 801, 802, 803, 804
320: (7) of 39: 403, 411, 412, 417, 420, 423, 426
733: (9) of 61: 366, 367, 369, 375, 376, 377, 381, 385, 394
735: (7) of 30: 910, 912, 913, 914, 918, 923, 930
744: (6) of 30: 175, 179, 180, 196, 198, 199
757: (14) of 97: 502, 505, 508, 510, 512, 517, 518, 525, 532, 554, 555, 557, 558, 560
763: (11) of 34: 641, 642, 643, 644, 646, 647, 649, 652, 655, 657, 663
777: (10) of 51: 209, 217, 220, 221, 769, 772, 774, 775, 777, 785

Among 735s, N922UA is also in new colors.

Jeremy


User currently offlineRamprat74 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1522 posts, RR: 2
Reply 22, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day ago) and read 3047 times:

There are eleven 500's painted now.

User currently offlineLaxintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 24846 posts, RR: 46
Reply 23, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day ago) and read 3019 times:

Quoting United787 (Reply 19):
United's livery change seems to be going extremely slow.



Quoting United787 (Reply 19):
Why is this so slow? I know the last livery change didn't take this long and that no other airline has taken this long.

You'll see a ramp up this winter as more heavy checks take place. In general outside of all the TED & PS aircraft, planes are not brought in simply for a repaint but instead done as part of heavy checks.

During the summer most of the equipment as UAL777UK mentions was busy out flying with minimal aircraft being out of service.

Bottom line is UA is not looking to take aircraft out of service needlessly and also incur additional capital expenditures just for repainting.



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User currently offlineUnited787 From United States of America, joined May 2005, 2691 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 2988 times:

Quoting Laxintl (Reply 23):
You'll see a ramp up this winter as more heavy checks take place. In general outside of all the TED & PS aircraft, planes are not brought in simply for a repaint but instead done as part of heavy checks.

During the summer most of the equipment as UAL777UK mentions was busy out flying with minimal aircraft being out of service.

Bottom line is UA is not looking to take aircraft out of service needlessly and also incur additional capital expenditures just for repainting.

So, is United deferring some of the heavy checks until the winter when they have more available aircraft to take out of service?


25 SESGDL : Which others are painted? Jeremy
26 Post contains links and images Planecrazy2 : It has happened before: View Large View MediumPhoto © Brian Bartlett What lucky passengers to be on that flight.
27 Laxintl : Airlines general sequence and schedule heavy checks during slower periods.
28 Ramprat74 : 1510, 1512, 1513, 1514, 1518, 1521, 1522, 1523, 1524, 1525, 1530
29 ATLAaron : Any idea which aircraft normal Flights United Flts 56 & 57? They are LAX-KOA and back. Just curious if I will be on with new colors or old.
30 UnitedNRT : I do not believe there are any Hawaiian staged B757-222OW in new colors, as they are the last B757s that United acquired.
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