ANITIX87 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 3321 posts, RR: 13
Reply 5, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 3007 times:
Hey guys. Great pictures. A few questions I have regarding the airport.
1) In the first picture linked, what present-day terminal is that?
2) What was the runway layout back then. I know today it's 4R/22L, 4L/22R, 13L/31R, and 13R/31L.
3) When was the name of the airport officially changed? I know there was the 50-year anniversary recently but I don't remember what year.
4) Who was/were the dominant airlines at the time the picture was taken?
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SR100 From UK - England, joined Dec 2005, 109 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 2784 times:
Quoting Timz (Reply 7): How about that BOAC in the third pic-- is that a Super VC-10 or a non-Super?
It's a Super VC-10 because door 2L is aft of the wing. The "regular" VC-10 had 2L in front of the wing.
There is also a different location of 1L, but this is a little bit more difficult to see. On the VC-10, 1L was right after the flight deck, on the Super VC-10, the distance between flight deck and 1L is larger, because there was a toilet and some galley space.
CV990 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 2678 times:
Very nice pictures!!! I notices a few gems there:
1 - On the 2nd. picture I see a Vickers Viscount, maybe Capital?
2 - On the 3rd. picture I see a KL DC-8-30, a LH 720B a VC-10 and a PA 720B!
3 - On the 4th. picture I see a AA 720/707, and far away some 727's, 707's and even a L1049.
4 - On the 5th. picture I see on the far left side what it looks like a C-135 from USAF and on the right side a tip of an Aer Lingus 720 or 707 old livery!
Milesrich From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 2039 posts, RR: 6
Reply 21, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 2115 times:
Its a Trans Canada Viscount, not a NE Viscount. The earlier picture shows the "Temporary Terminal" to the North of the TWA terminal. Both Connies appear to be L-1049G's. The 1049's were retired in early 1961, and the one facing head on looks like it has tip tanks. The other could be a 1649. It appears that the LH Boeing is a 707-330B. The outboard port engine on the 330B did not have a turbo compressor nor did the aircraft have a tail dorsal fin. Compare the length to the KLM DC-8-33. It's too long to be a 720. The Pan Am Aircraft is a 707-321B or 121B. Pan Am's four 720's came from LH. I wonder who that DC-7C at the IAB belongs to. It looks like it has a White "T" on the tail with a dark background. The other prop airplane is definitely a BOAC Britannia. Below the TC Viscount is the tail of a National DC-8. The aircraft next to the AZ DC-8-43 appears to belong to NWA, most likely a B-720-051B. Continental did not fly east of Chicago at that time.
CV990 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 1999 times:
Milesrich, you're right regarding the LH airplane, it's indeed a 707-330B, I can also notice the turbocompressor on the engine of "the other side" of the plane that it's barely noticeable. But I'm not so sure that the PA airplane cannot be a 720B, LH sold their 720B to PA in 1965 and if you look to KL livery, that actually match with the one of this picture:
Richierich From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 4359 posts, RR: 6
Reply 23, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 1844 times:
Timz - thanks for posting the links to these fascinating pictures! (For anybody who really knows JFK, this is very interesting!).
I had no idea about the chapels or the reflecting pool (which is so very '50s and '60s in nature!) What was the purpose of these chapels? Was it for people connecting flights or was it for the handling of airline tragedies? I can't believe it was the latter but I guess I am unclear on their purpose. I'm guessing the current control tower and various parking garages occupy this area today....