Lincoln From United States, joined Nov 2004, 3744 posts, RR: 15 Reply 2, posted (3 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 1633 times:
Quoting 727LOVER (Thread starter): On a recent United Airlines flight, I witnessed a vivid reminder of just how our everyday lives have changed since 9/11.
Is this the same lav as FC pax use?
Quoting 727LOVER (Thread starter): I fly about 30,000 miles a month...I see this all the time.....At least on HP...
I've seen it a few times on CO...and I think UA...
The last time I saw it (a CO redeye) they did without the beverage cart and just dragged the most "mean looking"* male FA to stand in the aisle facing aft while the business was taken care of.
Lincoln
*-who didn't really look all that mean at all, especially since he was working the podium and laughing before the flight, but I digress...
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Coewraatysaz From United States, joined Jun 2006, 196 posts, RR: 0 Reply 3, posted (3 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 1544 times:
I was on a flight from ORD to EWR on a UA 757. The F/A was giving something to the cockpit and instead of using a beverage cart, they pulled out what looked like a metal wiring that went from one side of the galley to the other. Anyone ever see that contraption?
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Two weeks ago I was on UA787, ORD-ANC, and when time came to feed the pilots, the F F/A put up what looked like a mini-chain link fence between the galley and closet at the front of F. Another F/A had already joined her in the forward galley. Once the flight deck crew had been served, they removed the gizmo and everything was back to normal.
HPAEAA From United States, joined May 2006, 995 posts, RR: 2 Reply 5, posted (3 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 1485 times:
AA does it all the time too... I actualy apprechiate it when I'm in first... cuts down on the traffic through the aisle.... and as with the next post points out and I ommited, AA has been dragging the beverage cart accross the aisle still...
COewrAAtysAZ From United States, joined Jun 2006, 196 posts, RR: 0 Reply 7, posted (3 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 994 times:
Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 4): Two weeks ago I was on UA787, ORD-ANC, and when time came to feed the pilots, the F F/A put up what looked like a mini-chain link fence between the galley and closet at the front of F. Another F/A had already joined her in the forward galley. Once the flight deck crew had been served, they removed the gizmo and everything was back to normal.
Yep, that's it!
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FlyAAS80 From United States, joined Sep 2006, 53 posts, RR: 0 Reply 8, posted (3 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 942 times:
I just recently flew AA in F from PVR to DFW when the FO apparently had to take care of business. Not only did they call up another F/A from coach to stand behind the beverage cart blocking the aisle, the F F/A switched spots with the F/O in the cockpit.
When the F/O was ready to go back upfront he called the cockpit and gave what apparently was some codeword, the door popped open and once again switched out with the F/A. Really put my mind at ease to know that I was flying with such a professional crew with our safety in mind.
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AlexPorter From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 9, posted (3 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 793 times:
I generally don't get a good view on aircraft with a first class section since I'm in economy, but on the CRJ the F/A jumpseat conveniently blocks the flight deck door. However, the F/A still goes into the flight deck while the F/O or Captain goes into the lav, leaving just the jumpseat as an auxillary barrier in addition to the flight deck door itself. The thing about this is that when the F/A is in the flight deck, no one is watching passengers at all unless there are security cameras or something (and I don't believe there are). There are only air marshalls and vigilant passengers in that situation. Which brings up a side question: Is there some rule where all flights that may have situations with no F/A present in the cabin have to have an air marshall? Examples include 1 F/A flights such as the CRJ, and non-F/A flights such as the B1900.
Lincoln From United States, joined Nov 2004, 3744 posts, RR: 15 Reply 10, posted (3 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 678 times:
Quoting AlexPorter (Reply 9): Is there some rule where all flights that may have situations with no F/A present in the cabin have to have an air marshall? Examples include 1 F/A flights such as the CRJ, and non-F/A flights such as the B1900.
Heck the Beech 1900 doesn't even have a flight deck door or lavatory, I can't imagine putting a FAM on every B1900 flight. Not to mention that it would effectively reduce the capacity of the aircraft and would have a greater impact on revenue than say a 737. (And not to be glib, but how much damage could a terrorist really do with one?)
While it's strictly conjecture, having been on a B1900 flight where the only other passenger was a coworker. I know that neither of us are FAMs, so I have to conclude that this is not a rule.
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We're Nuts From United States, joined Jun 2000, 5705 posts, RR: 30 Reply 11, posted (3 years 1 month 3 weeks ago) and read 628 times:
Quoting AlexPorter (Reply 9): However, the F/A still goes into the flight deck while the F/O or Captain goes into the lav, leaving just the jumpseat as an auxillary barrier in addition to the flight deck door itself.
Two crew members must be in the cockpit at all times. That's why we switch when a pilot needs to come out.
Quoting AlexPorter (Reply 9): no one is watching passengers at all unless there are security cameras or something (and I don't believe there are).
No cameras, but we do steal your thoughts.
Quoting AlexPorter (Reply 9): Which brings up a side question: Is there some rule where all flights that may have situations with no F/A present in the cabin have to have an air marshall?
While I can't say anything really specific about security procedures (not that there is much to say), I will say that I have never in my life seen an air marshal.
There is no FAR that I can think of stating passengers have to be monitored around the clock. If business needs to be taken care of, we just do it. Flight attendants themselves are certainly allowed to use the lavatory. We don't have to assign able-bodied-persons everytime we turn our backs.
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