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"New" 747 For Iran Air  
User currently offlineNA From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 10763 posts, RR: 9
Posted (8 years 1 month 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 17345 times:

Iran Air has finally found a way to secure a new 747, well, its new compared to the rest of the fleet, but still 24 years old, and comes from Air Universal of Jordan. Once D-ABYX with Lufthansa, Air Universal bought it in 2004 and registered it JY-AUA. Now it is reportedly flying in full Iran Air colours as EP-AUA. This information comes from skyliner-aviation.de.

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User currently offlineQatarA340 From Qatar, joined May 2006, 1858 posts, RR: 10
Reply 1, posted (8 years 1 month 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 17318 times:

Good news, even though Iran needs new planes. I assume its not a 747-400?


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User currently offlineNA From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 10763 posts, RR: 9
Reply 2, posted (8 years 1 month 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 17292 times:

Its a 1982-vintage 747-230B with GE engines. All other Iran Air 747s (the youngest is from 1979) have Pratts.

User currently offlineLazyshaun From United Kingdom, joined May 2005, 549 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (8 years 1 month 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 17039 times:

Good for Iran Air.

I'm interested in Iranian aviation; are IR due to get anymore F100's? And are all their A300's arrived yet?

Also, as for Mahan Air, are they due to recieve any more Western a/c, and when are their Tu 204's arriving? How many were ordered?

Thanks, a lot of questions I know  Smile



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User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26593 posts, RR: 75
Reply 4, posted (8 years 1 month 3 days ago) and read 16659 times:

Quoting Lazyshaun (Reply 3):
are IR due to get anymore F100's?

Only if they are used.

Quoting Lazyshaun (Reply 3):
and when are their Tu 204's arriving?

I believe they already operate at least one under wet lease



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User currently offlineDalavia From Australia, joined Feb 2005, 549 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (8 years 1 month 3 days ago) and read 16595 times:

Quoting N1120A (Reply 4):
Quoting Lazyshaun (Reply 3):and when are their Tu 204's arriving?
I believe they already operate at least one under wet lease

I passed through Tehran in late July and there was a line-up of several Mahan Air Tu-204s in the tarmac at the new Imam Khomeini Airport.

All had SU- registrations, indicating they are leased from an Egyption operator (perhaps Air Cairo?).

[Edited 2006-09-19 02:36:00]

User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26593 posts, RR: 75
Reply 6, posted (8 years 1 month 3 days ago) and read 16586 times:

Quoting Dalavia (Reply 5):
All had SU- registrations, indicating they are leased from an Egyption operator (perhaps Air Cairo?).

Believe so



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User currently offlineAussie_ From Australia, joined Dec 2000, 1766 posts, RR: 5
Reply 7, posted (8 years 1 month 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 16432 times:

I understand Mahan have 2 TU204s operating (SU-EAF and EAI). I was fortunate enough to fly one of them to and from Dubai in March.

Both are leased from Air Cairo and also crewed by Air Cairo pilots.


User currently offlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9891 posts, RR: 15
Reply 8, posted (8 years 1 month 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 16393 times:

Good news for Iran Air and I hope they can secure more modern aircraft such as secondhand 744 aircraft. What happened to the rumor of Iran Air getting the A333? Any truth to that looking at the closer ties Iran has with France in particular?

A388


User currently offlineFlySSC From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 7415 posts, RR: 57
Reply 9, posted (8 years 1 month 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 14083 times:

Quoting NA (Thread starter):
Once D-ABYX with Lufthansa, Air Universal bought it in 2004 and registered it JY-AUA. Now it is reportedly flying in full Iran Air colours as EP-AUA.

I saw this aircraft several times on the tarmac at THR-Mehrabad during the past months. It was already operating flights on behalf of IR, though not in IR colors.

It was initially delivered on Feb.25th 1982 to Lufthansa, as D-ABYX.
It was then stored briefly at Marana when retired by LH in May 2003 until it was acquired by Air Universal of Jordan in March 2004 as JY-AUA.

Unfortunuately, considering the political situation, I am affraid this is the onlt kind of acquisition IR can make ...


User currently offlineThorben From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (8 years 1 month 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 14064 times:

With American airplanes out of the race, there might be a good chance to sell them some A346 to replace those old jumbos. Some A345 for non-stops to CCS might fit in as well.

User currently offlineEcuatoriana707 From Australia, joined Feb 2006, 33 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (8 years 1 month 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 13907 times:

Quoting Thorben (Reply 10):
With American airplanes out of the race, there might be a good chance to sell them some A346 to replace those old jumbos. Some A345 for non-stops to CCS might fit in as well.

mmm, yes and for non-stops to Pyongyang, Havana and La Paz as well...


User currently offlineSpeedbird747 From Switzerland, joined May 2004, 123 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (8 years 1 month 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 13820 times:

Quoting Thorben (Reply 10):
With American airplanes out of the race, there might be a good chance to sell them some A346 to replace those old jumbos. Some A345 for non-stops to CCS might fit in as well.

No way! Many Airbus parts are American made. You can't sell a new Airbus to any Iranian airline.


User currently offlineRolfen From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 1809 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (8 years 1 month 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 13445 times:

Why dont they buy tupolevs and co. ?


rolf
User currently offlineBobski From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2006, 83 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (8 years 1 month 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 13410 times:

Quoting A388 (Reply 8):
What happened to the rumor of Iran Air getting the A333? Any truth to that looking at the closer ties Iran has with France in particular?

It would explain France's sudden change of heart on imposing sanctions on Iran for its nuclear weapons programme; keeping them sweet for a possible sale of refurbished Airbus aircraft (assuming they could get past the US embargo).



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User currently offlineCX777Fan From Australia, joined Feb 2005, 296 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (8 years 1 month 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 12792 times:

Quoting Rolfen (Reply 13):
Why dont they buy tupolevs and co. ?

You beat me to it Rolfen. There are plenty of Russian built airliners flying around Iran, but my understanding is that IR use mostly, if not all F100s on domestic routes.

Do current sanctions also preclude airlines in Iran from buying Russian planes and partS?

Still, good news for IR that they have been able to add a "new" 747 to the fleet. Is it to replace one of the 100s or SPs?


User currently offlineF22KA From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (8 years 1 month 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 12045 times:

I have said it before and I am going to say it again, why would iran want to use "satan's" aircraft?
Personally, if I were that "religious", I wouldn't want to be anywhere near such "satanic" plane.
The only explanation I have is that the "satan" thing is just garbage talk and the iranians do not really believe what they say.


User currently offlineJfk777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 8419 posts, RR: 7
Reply 17, posted (8 years 1 month 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 11921 times:
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The other day they purchased the Air France Jumbo which flew the Ayatolla Khomeni from Paris to Tehran in 1979. It how an Iranian trophy.

User currently offlineNA From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 10763 posts, RR: 9
Reply 18, posted (8 years 1 month 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 11633 times:

Quoting F22KA (Reply 16):
I have said it before and I am going to say it again, why would iran want to use "satan's" aircraft?
Personally, if I were that "religious", I wouldn't want to be anywhere near such "satanic" plane.

Thats a good one. And they should ban vars as well as almost all come from the "bad" side of the world.

But, honestly, there is a difference between the official Iran and its people. I´m sure that many Iranians would be more than happy to get rid of their medieval narrowminded government. Priests with wordly powers have almost always failed. And the fundamentalistic regimes in the muslim world make a perfect example for that.


User currently offlineMD90fan From Bahamas, joined Jul 2005, 2931 posts, RR: 7
Reply 19, posted (8 years 1 month 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 11497 times:

Quoting CX777Fan (Reply 15):
use mostly, if not all F100s on domestic routes.

I know they fly them to TAS and maybe also ALA/Astana in the past.



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User currently offlineCedarjet From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 8142 posts, RR: 54
Reply 20, posted (8 years 1 month 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 10984 times:

I saw the Air Uni 747 on the Iranair ramp at Mehrabad a couple of weeks ago. They also have an ex Delta L1011 with Air Universal titles in the storage area. I don't think this bird will fly again. The 747 looked great, they'll get plenty of flying out of it.


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User currently offlineIrobertson From Canada, joined Apr 2006, 601 posts, RR: 3
Reply 21, posted (8 years 1 month 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 10135 times:

Quoting Thorben (Reply 10):
With American airplanes out of the race, there might be a good chance to sell them some A346 to replace those old jumbos. Some A345 for non-stops to CCS might fit in as well.

If the trade sanctions don't affect working with Airbus, this would be a smart idea, I agree. Otherwise, it would be good to put pressure on Russia to get that IL-96-400 (or at least some -300s) coming off the assembly lines. New, strong, pretty efficient, cheaper... The Tu-204s are good options too. They could theoretically get them all with western engines too, though that might not be necessarily the best idea considering Iran's status in the west.


User currently offlineThorben From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (8 years 1 month 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 10051 times:

Quoting Speedbird747 (Reply 12):
No way! Many Airbus parts are American made. You can't sell a new Airbus to any Iranian airline.

Like the lead plates on the A340-5/600??  dopey 


User currently offlineDAYflyer From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 3807 posts, RR: 3
Reply 23, posted (8 years 1 month 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 10008 times:

I always wondered if Iran Air couldn't just wet-lease everything from another gulf state and have that airline do the mx as well to circumvent the US penalties.


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User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26593 posts, RR: 75
Reply 24, posted (8 years 1 month 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 10008 times:

Quoting Rolfen (Reply 13):
Why dont they buy tupolevs and co. ?

They have, though mostly for Iran Air Tours. Still, the Iranian government, people and Iran Air management don't trust Russian aircraft in the way they trust Western planes

Quoting Bobski (Reply 14):
Iran for its nuclear weapons programme

Iran doesn't have a weapons program

Quoting CX777Fan (Reply 15):
but my understanding is that IR use mostly, if not all F100s on domestic routes.

Incorrect. Iran Air still flies 727s, 737s and A300s pretty intensively. Further, Iran Air has shifted a lot of domestic flying to Iran Air Tours and some of the private companies.



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25 Curious : This a/c is unlikely to be purchased by Iran air, it is as before flying on its behalf but now with its own colours. The Iranian Civil aviation does n
26 F22KA : Instead of chasing green and purple horses, the iranians should start their own aircraft production. However, watching Ahmadinejad" on TV, makes me be
27 Curious : Well They kinda have the An140, which a piece of junk and would only meet some regional flight requirments. But I have always wondered why they havent
28 ElmoTheHobo : I thought it was engine parts (Rolls Royce) that were made in the US. Really silly if you ask me. Iran Air tried to get A320s, but the engines were m
29 Post contains images Cedars747 : They will use it on their THR-CCS flight Alex!!!
30 QatarA340 : But, why can't Iran get used A343 or used A345 (maybe whenever they become avaiable)? Even though they have American parts, the Boeing 747-200 that th
31 Cedarjet : I don't know why the Russians don't get their act together, there are plenty of state-run national airlines that would prefer to buy non American, ie
32 KATL757 : The US Government is referred to as Satan all the time over there. I don't think they have a beef with civilians that I am aware of. Unless you're in
33 N1120A : The issue there is that Iran specifically has stated repeatedly a preference for Boeing aircraft specifically and has had a beef with the Russians ov
34 LTU932 : Not just that. If I recall correctly, the avionics are also made in the US, don't know if it's Rockwell Collins or Honeywell.
35 Cedarjet : This really makes sense. Iran may fly 707s and Russian planes but it isn't a backwards or underdeveloped country in any way, and I'm sure an airline
36 N1120A : Well, the Tu204 is a hell of a plane, probably the best one the Russians have ever build from an economics and quality standpoint, but generally that
37 ElmoTheHobo : LOL. You must be out of your mind! They would need at LEAST an A380 for LAX-THR!
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