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Questions Re DH Comets In The Americas  
User currently offlineSmokescreen From Canada, joined Jul 2005, 230 posts, RR: 0
Posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 2890 times:

I recently learned that Aerolineas Argentinas was a fairly major Comet 4 operator - I already knew about Mexicanas' Comets and CP's cancelled order: did any other airlines in the Americas/W. Hemisphere operate Comets?
Also, who had a bigger fleet, MX or AR?
Who got theirs first?
Who kept them longest?
What routes did MX and AR use them on?

Any input is appreciated!

Jonathan

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User currently offlineGDB From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 13165 posts, RR: 78
Reply 1, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 20 hours ago) and read 2848 times:

None as far as I know.
Capitol, a big Vickers Viscount customer, ordered 14 Comet 4's in the late 50's, but after financial issues and eventual merger with I think UA, the order was cancelled before anything came down the production line.


User currently offlineTimz From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 6772 posts, RR: 7
Reply 2, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 2830 times:

AR started transatlantic Comet flights in July? 1959, so they were the third transatlantic jet flyer after BOAC and PA.

User currently offlineDiesel1 From UK - Wales, joined Mar 2001, 1637 posts, RR: 11
Reply 3, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 2793 times:

An additional airline...

There was one Comet 4 (C/n 628, HC ALT) on the Ecuadorian register - operated by AREA.
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The a/c was purchased in March 66 from BOAC, before being WFU @ Miami in March 68. It was finally broken up some 10+ years later.

The RCAF also operated a couple of Comet1, one of which made it into non commercial ownership.
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AR operated Comets first with LV PLM (c/n 6418) delivered in early 1959. Half a dozen aircraft were delivered within a couple of years, and a further one in 1962. Three aircraft were written off between August 59 and November 61.

MX operated Comets purchased new (delivered from 1960) and also some purchased secondhand from BOAC.AFAIK, no MX aircraft were written off.

Both airlines had sold their Comet fleets by the end of 1971

If we're discussing Comets in the Americas, there were of course a number of other aircraft registered in USA too.



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User currently offlineTimz From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 6772 posts, RR: 7
Reply 4, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 2768 times:

In 1964 Mexicana had Comets LAX-MZT-GDL-MEX, LAX-MEX, ORD-MEX and a weekly MEX-MID-MBJ-KIN.

User currently offlineNycaross From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 58 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 2755 times:

AR flew comets JFK to EZE via stops in POS and GIG, then switched to B707.

User currently offlineCessnalady From Mexico, joined May 2004, 310 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 2734 times:

MX was the launch customer of the DH Comet 4C in 1960. This was discussed a while ago in:
MX Launch Customer Of DH Comet 4C (by Adriaticus Jul 18 2004 in Civil Aviation)
this thread includes some nice and interesting photographs, like
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Marie


User currently offlineSmokescreen From Canada, joined Jul 2005, 230 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (7 years 10 months 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 2655 times:

Thanks for the input guys, my search didn't turn up that earlier (and informative) thread.

Did MX do any transatlantic or deep S. American routes back then, or was that strictly AM?


User currently offlineTimz From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 6772 posts, RR: 7
Reply 8, posted (7 years 10 months 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 2645 times:

Another possibility is Guest Aerovias Mexico, which claimed to schedule a Comet MEX to Paris via Miami in 1961. But no mention of it in the books I've seen so far.

Don't think Mexicana or Aeronaves flew transatlantic in the 1960s.


User currently offlineNycaross From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 58 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (7 years 10 months 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 2614 times:

At one time, AM flew DC-8 MEX-MIA-MAD, then extended it to ORY

User currently offlineTimz From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 6772 posts, RR: 7
Reply 10, posted (7 years 10 months 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 2564 times:

You're right -- Aeronaves did fly to Madrid (at least) in the 60s.

Quoting Smokescreen (Reply 7):
Did MX do any transatlantic or deep S. American routes back then

MX didn't even fly to Guatemala until the late 1960s, and they didn't fly south of there-- in that era anyway.


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