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Blue Chicago?!?!?!  
User currently offlineB6DC10 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (9 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 16954 times:

Hello fellow A-netters...expect the windy city to get hit w/ a touch of blue this week...I'll give you a hint -It's not Midway...It's not Gary...and It's not Rockford....any guesses???

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User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 29357 posts, RR: 73
Reply 1, posted (9 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 16954 times:

Quoting B6DC10 (Thread starter):
Hello fellow A-netters...expect the windy city to get hit w/ a touch of blue this week...I'll give you a hint -It's not Midway...It's not Gary...and It's not Rockford....any guesses???

SBN? Or perhaps B6 now wants MKE called Milwaukee/Chicago?

Mangeons les French fries, mais surtout pratiquons avec fierte le French kiss
User currently offlineB6JFKH81 From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 2950 posts, RR: 7
Reply 2, posted (9 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 16955 times:

Are we re-opening Meigs and extending the runway?!? LOL!

You aren't leaving us with much with your list. Is it ORD????

"If you do not learn from history, you are doomed to repeat it"
User currently offlineB6DC10 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (9 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 16955 times:

ORD? Hmmm....I don't want to play spoiler, but you're on the right track...

User currently offlineVivavegas From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 505 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (9 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 16915 times:

Quoting N1120A (Reply 1):
perhaps B6 now wants MKE called Milwaukee/Chicago?


Now on to reality...

Anyway, what gates are available at ORD? International?


MKE / EYW / LAS - The true trifecta of aviation!
User currently offlineJetBluefan1 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 3195 posts, RR: 12
Reply 5, posted (9 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 16877 times:

Wow, this definitely comes as a surprise (or will come as one, I should say).

When can we expect some more information?


User currently offlineFriendlySkies From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 4139 posts, RR: 5
Reply 6, posted (9 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 16859 times:

I doubt it's ORD considering the FAA just more or less made it slot-controlled through 2008...but I could be wrong.

User currently offlineSJC4Me From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 378 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (9 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 16815 times:

Oh good, ORD needs more traffic.

User currently offlineChase From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 1054 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (9 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 16751 times:

Hmm...well, if FR can land in the grass in Madrid as is rumoured on another current thread, maybe B6 are heading to Peotone a little early?  Smile

User currently offlinePiercey From Sweden, joined Nov 2005, 2233 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (9 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 16731 times:

Quoting B6DC10 (Thread starter):
Hello fellow A-netters...expect the windy city to get hit w/ a touch of blue this week...I'll give you a hint -It's not Midway...It's not Gary...and It's not Rockford....any guesses???

SBN? ORD? Aurora becoming civ-av?

Well I believe it all is coming to an end. Oh well, I guess we are gonna pretend.
User currently offlineB6DC10 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (9 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 16730 times:

Slots opened up very quickly....expect an ORD announcement this week...8 daily flights!

User currently offlineScaledesigns From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 211 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (9 years 8 months 1 week 3 days ago) and read 16668 times:

Old AA and UA slots were possibly going to be given to other airlines to add free competition at ORD.I suspect Jet Blue may get a few from this program.

I hope they know they are entering a hornets nest. AA and UA will protect
their turf.

F1 Tommy
User currently offlineRipcordd From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 1326 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (9 years 8 months 1 week 3 days ago) and read 16629 times:

Just another route they will loose money on there is way too many loyal fliers for AA/UA in the market for them to switch they offer like 30 some flights they don't know what they are in for.

User currently offlineFWAERJ From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 4280 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (9 years 8 months 1 week 3 days ago) and read 16621 times:

Quoting Vivavegas (Reply 4):
Anyway, what gates are available at ORD? International?

International Terminal 5 has gates, but the operating costs from T5 are higher than Terminals 1/2/3. JetBlue has been holding out for gates at T1/2/3 for quite some time.

My bet is that JetBlue will be subleasing gates from United, as B6 subleases gates from UA at several other airports (including PDX). Another possibility is DL vacating their remaining T3 Concourse L gates and moving to T2 Concourse E, sharing gates with SkyTeam partners CO and NW... but this is unlikely to happen as DL shows no love for B6 (esp. at JFK). IIRC, AA is still bitter over losing the LGB battle to B6, so I wouldn't expect that JetBlue's gates at ORD would be subleased from AA. But, then again, stranger things have happened...

"Did he really need the triple bypass? Or was it the miles?"
User currently offlineJetBluefan1 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 3195 posts, RR: 12
Reply 14, posted (9 years 8 months 1 week 3 days ago) and read 16582 times:

Quoting B6DC10 (Reply 10):
Slots opened up very quickly....expect an ORD announcement this week...8 daily flights!

What what???!!! All are most likely to JFK since there is very little competition. I doubt BOS will get service right off the bat because the route is so saturated already.

Alright! Can't wait to see what the fares are. I bet JetBlue has something up its sleeve for marketing. This is not going to be easy in the least - that's for sure - but it'll be very, very interesting to watch.


User currently offlineSJC4Me From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 378 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (9 years 8 months 1 week 3 days ago) and read 16484 times:

Quoting Ripcordd (Reply 12):
Just another route they will loose money on there is way too many loyal fliers for AA/UA in the market for them to switch they offer like 30 some flights they don't know what they are in for.

What if you hate flying on RJ's? B6 will be the only airline to offer mainline fleet from ORD to JFK. That's a pretty big bargaining chip in my mind.

PS - sweet run on sentence!

User currently offlineB6DC10 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (9 years 8 months 1 week 3 days ago) and read 16471 times:

Quoting Ripcordd (Reply 12):
Just another route they will loose money on there is way too many loyal fliers for AA/UA in the market for them to switch they offer like 30 some flights they don't know what they are in for.

Sour Grapes....I am sure that people will look beyond the legacy carriers after being under their thumb for so many years....expect service to begin next month!

User currently offlineLowecur From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 585 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (9 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 16391 times:

Quoting B6DC10 (Reply 10):
Slots opened up very quickly....expect an ORD announcement this week...8 daily flights

FAA left the possibility of an 89th and 90th slot opening to new entrants with 8 or fewer flts per day. The slots will be effective until 10/31/08 when a new runway is anticipated to open. This still doesn't answer the question of gates. Jetblue will obviously be subleasing from someone, but their growth will be stymied after 2008 until they get access to some new gates. Consolidation could answer a few of those questions, as UAL may be forced by the DOJ antitrust division to give up some gates/slots at ORD if they want approval to merge with CAL.

[Edited 2006-09-20 23:12:01]

User currently offlineJetBlueGuy2006 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 1719 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (9 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 16239 times:

Does this signal a heavier growth into the midwest (if this is all proven soon)?

So we could be seeing STL and possibly some in Michigan?

Home Airport: Capital Region International Airport (KLAN)
User currently offlineLambertMan From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 2102 posts, RR: 34
Reply 19, posted (9 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 16198 times:

Not surprised to see St. Louis get the stiff-arm yet again, Chicago surely needs the service.  Wink

User currently offlineScaledesigns From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 211 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (9 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 16082 times:

AA/AE mainly uses the JFK runs for connections to AA/partners international departures.
Jet Blue with its huge International fleet:- will be only using it as a domestic hub.With all the mainline nonstops from ORD/MDW they better have real cheap tickets fares or they will be eaten alive.

F1 Tommy
User currently offlineGoBlue From Canada, joined Jun 2006, 216 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (9 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 16046 times:

So excited to see this happen. I am worried that they will not be able to get the slots to expand to IAD, BOS, MCO and FLL. Which i would assume is on the radar.

How would they get the slots for expansion?


User currently offlineFlyibaby From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 1021 posts, RR: 5
Reply 22, posted (9 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 16035 times:

Where did the Independence slots go? I know in 2004 they operated 14 a day...any idea what happened to those, or were they just absorbed by another carrier?

User currently offlineSrbmod From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (9 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 15955 times:

Quoting Scaledesigns (Reply 11):
I hope they know they are entering a hornets nest. AA and UA will protect
their turf.

And would make the fight DL and FL gave them in Atlanta look like a church picnic.........

User currently offlinePropilotJW From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 590 posts, RR: 6
Reply 24, posted (9 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 15762 times:

wow... this will be interesting to see what routes from ORD B6 would serve if ORD really is announced. It could be quite the battle between the new guy and the legacies. On the other hand, the big guys don;t have DirectTV and XM radio with leather seats as well as a full compliment of snacks and drinks. The customer will ultimately decide the winner in this.

25 Daron4000 : No, but they do have international flights, first class, hourly flights, service to LGA/EWR, Economy plus, better FFP, and tons of loyal customers.
26 Nopeotone : Is there any other B6 employee that can confirm this? If so, good for Jetblue and ORD. Jetblue needs to enter the Chicago market. Just wondering if th
27 Post contains images Piercey : Yes, all the evil legacy carriers uhh... You do realize that someone could drive 2 hrs north to MKE for YX, 2 1/2 hrs east for G8, or, better yet, cr
28 JetBluefan1 : I would expect an announcement tomorrow. Something big is supposed to be happening with the website as well, so it only makes sense for Chicago servic
29 Stirling : That may be all well and good, but it is assuming all the passengers will be "Chicago-centric". Remember, jetBlue is a New York City airline, that is
30 Post contains images JetBlueAtJFK : Well it's about time they get into ORD. Most likely they will have like 6X to JFK and then maybe have the other 2X to BOS or maybe a place like MCO. B
31 FA4B6 : Well, from my end of things, we posted a memo (from our CEO) in the Inflight Crew Lounge at JFK for 4 Inflight Crewmembers to work a "high profile, hi
32 Kanebear : I wouldn't bet on that. If there's money to be made, especially as tight as things are now, AA will likely go for the $$$. AMR and AA have ALWAYS bee
33 Bigdrewfl : What ever it is its going to happen this Friday AM!!!
34 JetBlueNYFL : International flights - ok. Well, people also connect to international flights from jetBlue flights even though there is no agreement with other airl
35 Bigdrewfl : Watch it be LAX.....
36 Nopeotone : So ORD is a positive thing? And a new website for Jetblue? Wow, busy week for them. JetblueNYFL: I have a question for you. Are the flights to PIT and
37 JetBlueNYFL : I'm not sure. But since they are primarily business routes, I have heard the times and frequencies don't work for most people. AUS-BOS does not have
38 777fan : I'm guessing that most FFers will see that B6's perks (on a 2 hour max flight) aren't worth as much as a robust FF program and connections around the
39 BN727 : Who knows for sure what JetBlue will do next....One thing's for sure...If Jetblue announces JFK-ORD.... You can bet Delta will announce the same withi
40 UnitedNRT : Delta already operates the JFK-ORD stage with CRJ-700 frames through Delta Connection.
41 ORDPIA : new site is up, nothing about ORD yet.
42 Post contains images Jacobin777 : ....being an AA fflyer and getting seats/service I want..not to mention Admirals Club service at ORD (which I used yesterday evening) and JFK, interl
43 WMUPilot : Well no matter where the destination is, it is sure to prove a big battle ground. If it is ORD then I, as well as everybody else on here, believe it w
44 FWAERJ : With the way the timetable for the mystery flight is set up, it can't be LAX. As we all know, JFK-LAX is a 5 hour flight, and the time for the arriva
45 Ckfred : I'm not sure where B6 can find gate space at ORD. UA and the City went to court over lease payments and whether UA had to give up gate space because i
46 Bigdrewfl : I was just kidding......if someone seen Chicago in flight speed then Chicago it is. Nice to see that somehow we got gates there!
47 Post contains images Cadet57 :
48 Post contains images Ctbarnes : ORD-OAK, Pleeeeeeeeeaaase! Charles, SJ
49 Post contains links Vivavegas : SRQ~~~!!! Is this the ORD announcement?? - "JetBlue Adds Its Seventh Destination to the Sunshine State: Now Serving Sarasota Bradenton" http://biz.yah
50 JetBlueGuy2006 : [quote=Vivavegas,reply=49]SRQ~~~!!! No, the service to SRQ starts today.
51 SeeTheWorld : If this is true, ORD service by JetBlue will definitely be a great market for the airline and its customers, regardless of the actions of AA, UA, and
52 Post contains links and images Vivavegas : Couldn't tell by reading that oddly written press release. Still waiting for that magic mystery flight to take off to ORD. Is hornswaggled a word? ht
53 RoseFlyer : I kind of doubt that. It is possible, but UA has very heavy utilization out of its gates. United and other airlines handle jetBlue's flights on the w
54 Nopeotone : Maybe that mystery flight is flying into RFD's airshow LOL.
55 B6DC10 : Why would someone drive 2 1/2 hours to take a 2 hour flight to NY?
56 Jacobin777 : Really? Someone who spends thousands of dollars and flies 50-75K miles/year....year after year.......are you sure about that?
57 EridanMan : I second OAK ORD... no direct low-fare competition... And the route that has twice lead me to 'airline service hell', once with AA and once with HP/US
58 B6DC10 : OAK ORD would compete w/ united nicely
59 JFK69 : Anyone see the New Jetblue website by the way?
60 Piercey : First off, who ever said NYC? Notice how one of the mentioned airlines doesn't even fly into NYC (G8). I was referring you to the fact that Chicago a
61 Atrude777 : Southwest does fly MDW-OAK non stop?? So there is compeition between the route should B6 enter it. Alex
62 B6FA4ever : as that is true...but we fly against WN from a different airport in the same city area: LGB - OAK, SMF, LAS, IAD (WN: LAX-OAK, SMF, LAS, BWI) OAK - I
63 RoseFlyer : I'd love that to happen. RFD has one of the biggest airshows in the midwest going on this weekend, and a surprise announcement and display from jetBl
64 CentPIT : Well, PIT-BOS is only US and B6, if B6 can't make it work, then that is sad....
65 AirTranTUS : Good idea but... RFD does not have paralells OR 9's. Whoever's up at about 0730 EDT tomorrow should check FlightAware for scheduled flights to ORD or
66 UnitedNRT : United is the sole operator on the stage with twice daily B757-200.
67 JFKLGANYC : jetBlue should do very well on the JFK-ORD route. There is virtually no competition. Eagle has 2 flights a day on ERJs and Delta had 1 or 2 flights a
68 WMUPilot : "Dress To The 9's" is a fashion term that means to dress well as all eyes are going to be on you.
69 Cubsrule : A fair question, and not one that has been answered. The thing to understand about ORD is that there aren't slots in the sense that LGA, DCA, or LHR
70 DL4EVR : Hm...B6 at ORD? I'm sure this will be as successful as B6 in ATL. Except this time they have *2* Legacies to compete with. Most people prefer going in
71 GoBlue : Ok, lets play devils advocate here, but could this also be Miami? With the flight times of the mystery flight, and the winter season coming upon us? I
72 Flyguy1 : If B6 does start JFK-ORD, that will change..
73 JFKLGANYC : "Hm...B6 at ORD? I'm sure this will be as successful as B6 in ATL. Except this time they have *2* Legacies to compete with. Most people prefer going i
74 Silentobserver : DL will be the one to fight them... the difference between ATL-JFK and JFK-ORD is ATL and JFK are both delta hubs...ORD is not... AA and UA are not go
75 AirTranTUS : Whoops! My bad. I read "Dressing the 9's" as you can tell. It's an aviation site, I think in runway numbers. I now know why the phrase "Dressing the
76 UnitedNRT : So you downplay United's 650 daily departures and American's 510(which both are larger than all of th B6 system, mind you) as they are just "hubs" co
77 HPAEAA : well atleast MQ can have some competition on the usualy delayed ORD JFK market....
78 NML1011 : how much of this is speculation and how much is truth? it's kind of pointless to discuss something that's not for sure. but i will add that i would lo
79 JetBlueNYFL : You call JFK a Delta hub?!?!?!?!? hahaha Delta had no major interest in the NYC market - except for the NY-Florida runs and select flights to ATL and
80 Cubsrule : 15 daily flights and nearly 2000 daily seats to LGA (7x 733, 1x 735, 1x 319, 2x 320 4x 752) is hardly a nobody, and this ignores the 900 daily seats
81 Atrude777 : JFK is in fact a hub for Delta Airlines and was a hub at JFK long before Jetblue even existed. Alex
82 SANFan : In my opinion, if ORD is really about to happen, JetBlue is pulling a "Krispy Kreme": too much unreasonable growth too fast. For a company trying to m
83 JetBlueNYFL : I never said JFK is not a DL hub. I was just pointing out that it's a bit ridiculous to call it a hub when all they have are little puddle jumpers op
84 UnitedNRT : most of DL's frequencies aren't DH8
85 STT757 : JFK has all those right now and still the airport can barely supprt 2-3 daily Regional jet flights (in total) to Chicago, while EWR has 4 airlines su
86 Flightopsguy : JBU is a great airline, but with about 120 aircraft, they are far short of the 450 of UAL and the 600 of AAL. Even SKW has over 400 airframes! Adding
87 JetBlueNYFL : JFK can barely support the 2-3 daily RJ flights in total to Chicago exactly for that reason - they are over-priced fares on a low-quality, uncomforta
88 STT757 : I don't see AA or DL going with hourly M80 service to Boston or UAL switching from ERJs or CRJs to A319s now that B6 is on those routes from JFK.
89 Cubsrule : With reasonable advance purchase, it's not at all unusual to be able to snag tickets on ORD-JFK on either MQ or OH for under $250. For example, for a
90 LambertMan : I was thinking along similar lines. What is the point in picking fights on oversaturated routes with carriers who are willing to defend their markets
91 DL4EVR : Just priced the 9/28 JFK-ORD on DL for $178 r/t!!!
92 Jacobin777 : I don't see $163 roundtrip fares including taxes, etc. as "over-priced"....do you? Granted for last minute fares B6 would do well..but looking out 1-
93 Atrude777 : disregard . . . . . ..[Edited 2006-09-22 04:24:51]
94 MrSTL : I agree, and if this actually happens it is only 8 flights-- B6 has to go to ORD at some point, I don't think this is a bad move. Now if they announc
95 Cubsrule : A lot of the folks buying those need the flexibility that only UA and AA can offer them.
96 Jacobin777 : True...but it will be something B6 will be able to offer...we'll see what happens if they decide to initiate this route...
97 JetBlueNYFL : Folks, you're picking some low-price dates on the RJ service from JFK-ORD. I'm talking about last-minute, walk-up fares...jetBlue's probably won't exc
98 Post contains images Steeler83 : suPREMELY!!! Dude... JFK is THE O&D goaldmine for pretty much any carrier... if that happens, I am building a bomb shelter and preparing for armaghed
99 Atrude777 : Just searched for a walk up fare on DL.com for tomorrow JFK-ORD r/t $488.90 round trip. Not to shabby for a walk up fare. About 244 one way. Ya its o
100 Post contains images Jacobin777 : same thing on AA....$299 walk up fares are not going to help B6...
101 JetBlueNYFL : You want to compare last minute fares? Surely! JFK-SLC, one-way on 9/22/06: jetBlue: $339.30 with taxes Delta: $339.30 with taxes EWR-SLC, one-way on
102 Atrude777 : Ya, your using two different airports that are serving two different areas of NYC. You said that ORD-JFK needed B6 to lower the routes so I looked it
103 JetBlueNYFL : First, I am using two different airports to show you a result of the JetBlue Effect. Trust me, DL used to charge higher fares out of JFK. Also, you c
104 Atrude777 : Ya I can understand and I know DL used to charge higher. But it would seem jetblue effect doesn't seem to work as strongly as one would think. Southw
105 JetBlueNYFL : Well, not on all routes. Take transcon NYC-LA area. Years ago, walkup of $2,000+ in coach on AA from JFK-LAX was not unreal. Today, the walkup is muc
106 UnitedNRT : Now B6 has a coined "effect"? please, they're not Southwest.
107 JetBlueNYFL : Of course they are not Southwest. They have IFE, assigned seating and a variety of snack choices. Southwest is a great company...probably the best ai
108 UnitedNRT : jetBlue is an admirable airline run by dedicated employees and I respect them, but the choice of words was all I was questioning. We all know that So
109 JetBluefan1 : So today's the big announcement day. Hopefully someone can start a new thread so we don't have to scroll through the 109 replies... JetBluefan1
110 Post contains images JetBlueAtJFK : The 110 replies of I don't think B6 can do (
111 EWRandMDW : Who cares?????? When I travel to NYC area, JFK is certainly NOT the airport I would choose to fly into! B6 is not God's gift to air travel!!
112 Lowecur : Another board is reporting that the flts will be split between LGB & JFK.
113 COEWRNJ : Did the mystery flight take off yet?
114 Post contains images DL4EVR : Not for long The New DL transcon service will begin EWR-SLC on October 12th! Thank you!!
115 Jetsetsteve : dont beleave the hype. We would have had a press release already. Unless they are waiting on that mystery flight to land at the mystery city.
116 Post contains images Werdywerd : The "rumor" I have from "in-house" is that it will be JFK-ORD and be 8x/day Let's see what happens later today
117 Ckfred : So far, the only B6 news on CNBC.com is about B6's redesigned website.
118 Post contains images JerseyGuy : Please give me a list of the routes you do fly, so that I can have all other routes cancelled
119 SeeTheWorld : Based on what you said above about sticking to AA and all the perks, why would a company like jetBlue or Southwest bother wasting a penny trying to m
120 JetBlueNYFL : Yes, and that new DL transcon service is not out of DL's good will for their most valued customers. All it is a a competitive response to the jetBlue
121 Post contains images Atrude777 : Hmmh still nothing again.... did B6DC10 dupe you chicago folks like he duped us STL people... Alex
122 United787 : There is nothing unusual on FlightAware.com from New York to Chicago or Milwaukee through about 3:30 ET.
123 ORD : Who cares that Delta "copied" some of JetBlue's inflight elements? That happens all the time in all industries. If something is popular, competitors
124 DL4EVR : Yep....in this industry everyone "copies" everything from each other. Guess it's all part of that healthy competition.
125 Lowecur : The credibility issue looks rather shakey.
126 Vivavegas : B6 has a habit posted PR at 12:01p, hmmmm... Nothing yet.... No magical, mystery flights either.... Duped.... Craig MKE
127 RoseFlyer : Well you might care, but millions of others do, which is why JFK is one of the biggest airports in the world. There is more to the world than a singl
128 AirTranTUS : It's too bad that jetBlue customers out west get these benefits on overnight flights, while DL's new IFE on the 757's now and 767's and 738's later w
129 Post contains images Jacobin777 : Because B6 could use constant business from people like me..I live in the SJC/SFO area..which is also business for B6, I travel every few weeks to Ch
130 Cactus739 : jetBlue's noonish flight out of Phoenix to JFK arrives early enough for connections to many cities on the east... including RDU, CLT, RIC, FLL and PW
131 Cubsrule : What is the largest number of frequencies they offer on a long-ish (>500 mile) route?
132 SeeTheWorld : That is your original comment above. Me, arrogant?! Hmmm ... You're "95% sure JetBlue won't be getting any of [your] business anytime soon." Just bec
133 AirTranTUS : That is true, but arrival times in Florida are after or near midnight, which is a downside. And if I wanted to go to JAX (where I have relatives) or
134 RIPCORDD : Unless your a pilot for Jet Blue your not making enough money to support a family and if they go out business get hired with SWA were you can make som
135 Mexicana757 : Still waiting on that B6 announcement. Its almost 2pm Chicago time.
136 MiCorazonAzul : Nothing yet from corporate in my company email........seems to me that this was NOT true afterall. Press releases are rarely issued this late in the d
137 JetBluefan1 : I'm surprised there's no word on this yet. Maybe something went wrong and it's being postponed? JetBluefan1
138 Atrude777 : Or maybe this B6DC10guy oughta keep his mouth shut so there aren't any surprises or people mad. This shows B6 in a bad light and discredits them. Aft
139 SeeTheWorld : That's a little harsh. There are plenty of airline employees on this site who have posted rumors about their airlines that never come true. Frankly,
140 JetBluefan1 : Actually, if memory serves me correctly, B6DC10 was the one who created all the hullabaloo about an STL focus city...which obviously never formulated
141 United787 : And if they are positive news, rarely issued on a Friday.
142 WMUPilot : At no point did the company tell us that we where going to announce ORD this week! Talking with somebody in FSC does not constitute a company press r
143 Atrude777 : Rumors, yes and they state it as rumors, He claimed it as a fact and stated we will hear from B6 about starting a new city THIS WEEK at ORD. Its frid
144 SeeTheWorld : Let's be honest here. No one in an airline that is privy to information as big as JetBlue announcing ORD service would leak that information in an on
145 Post contains images Jacobin777 : Sure...isn't that the direction B6 wants to take if it is to increase profits? Have they not taken steps to attract business, high frequency traveler
146 STT757 : Folks are still waiting for the UAL 787 purchase which was supposed to happen a couple weeks ago, then there's the DL 777-200LRs, the NWA DC-9 replac
147 Werdywerd : That has to be the most uneducated statement i've heard on here in a while. What do you know about me and what I do? If you think I am a customer ser
148 Lowecur : Actually, I believe it was B6767200 that started that thread. He was a new poster that day. B6DC10 chimed in shortly on the same thread and was accus
149 WMUPilot : Does anybody have the credentials for B6DC10? No JetBlue employee has stated that ORD would be announced this week. FA4B6 posted that there was a memo
150 SeeTheWorld : Blah! Blah! Blah! Blah! You're the one who made the comment in the first place - "95% chance you won't be flying JetBlue anytime soon." Trust me, Jet
151 FA4B6 : It was canceled last night. Strange.
152 JetBluefan1 : Hmm...maybe this has to do with it being leaked? I know there's an outside chance, but it's not a hidden fact that various airline heads go through a
153 Post contains images Jacobin777 : I'll make sure not to reply to your rude and inane comments.... No I won't...
154 Post contains images Cactus739 : This is hilarious..you guys crack me up.....and not the first time you've been duped too....amazing how excited you all get over jetBlue potentially a
155 Post contains images Luv2fly : Sorry I have to agree! B6DC10 has a proven track record of starting false SH*T and yet everyone falls for it. B6DC10 this is for you!
156 Lowecur : Nah....If it was in the works, it's not because of a leak that they postponed it. They are either going to do it or they're not. Most likely it has t
157 RW717 : Hi Guys! This is my first post, but I had to join just to put my 2 cents in. I'm not going to say how I know, but it will be 5x JFK-ORD and 2x LGB-ORD
158 AirTranTUS : Welcome to A.net! So, can you say when?
159 Post contains images Luv2fly : Since your psychic care to share the lotto numbers!
160 WMUPilot : Also interesting how he here isn't here to defend his honor. I hope for your honor that you prove to be more reliable than B6DC10 LOL. I head out on
161 JerseyGuy : Do they even have the slots to offer LGB-ORD?
162 RW717 : I never claimed to be psychic, I left that job to Miss Cleo. However, My source is a VERY good friend of mine and I would never jeapordize their care
163 JetBlueNYFL : Wow...a huge climax in this post! Welcome to a.net! Hopefully your word can be trusted...if it is announced within the next 14 days, here's an advanc
164 Piercey : hmm... I notice that you have all except your occupation concealed. I hope u didn't just leak something that shouldn't have been said online after a
165 RW717 : I know that they are maxed out on slots at LGB, but I am assuming that they will tweak the schedule to open the slots up.
166 Luv2fly : Miss Cleo turned out to be a fake in the end as well.
167 RW717 : Oh spare me the drama!!! The only thing that is "concealed" is my name and email address, which are the two things that actually could get my friend
168 B6DC10 : Good Evening Kids, Sorry I haven't been around all day. I know that all of you are sitting here doubting me....and it's justified. Today came and went
169 RW717 : I was not including myself with Miss Cleo. I am not a psychic. This is precisely why I didn't join this forum until now. You all take this sh*t way t
170 Post contains images JetBlueNYFL : I noticed that this thread was reaching the end of the most recent threads on the forum...most likely because the announcement did not come. However,
171 Post contains images Wsan581 : For what its worth...I have heard that jetBlue will start service to ORD by the end of this year....i don't know what to think of this, usally when t
172 Post contains images Steeler83 : Agreed 110%. I guess B6 could have done a better job of this when they anounced PIT service to JFK and BOS, considering that I heard that the loads t
173 JerseyGuy : No Bluecago (blue-cog-o) just yet. Maybe next week. Or maybe never just like St. Louis which we are still waiting on.
174 Post contains images Wsan581 : I wouldn't say never, Chicago is a market that B6 can't avoid.
175 Bigdrewfl : Chicago is going be announced for sure just give it time......Wail for the announcement by next week or so.
176 Flyguy1 : Think of all the free PR this "premature" announcement will give to B6. Either its for real (and they win), or its not, and a bunch of ppl have just b
177 Post contains images Wsan581 :
178 JerseyGuy : Since we all know that ORD cannot be Jetblue's midwestern hub, any word on when that might happen?
179 GMUAirbusA320 : Yeah, so where's the big announcement? The new website is up and running. However, I do think B6 would wait to drop that news early in the week. That
180 ATLAaron : Oh yeah, this will be a repeat of their ATL experience all over again.
181 Scaledesigns : Jet blue is New Yorks Midway Metrolink.We know what happened to them. I cant wait to see them at ORD.
182 Wsan581 : According to a friend of mine, B6 will open shop on the 7th of Nov. before you blast me, keep in mind that this is a rumor. I don't know what to thin
183 SeeTheWorld : ORD is not ATL, and UA and AA are not DL. I expect if B6 goes into ORD, they will do well.
184 ATLAaron : I respectfully disagree, but I would love to hear your explanation on why.
185 Steeler83 : Instead of B6 going against one very large fortress hub carrier at ATL (DL), they'll have two to contend with at ORD (AA and UA). I just don't see it
186 SeeTheWorld : I don't believe that UA and AA are as irrational competitors as DL and NW are. Yes, UA and AA will match them and compete with them aggressively, but
187 ATLAaron : SeeTheWorld, I think you may be correct that initially they will not drive them out at all costs, however wait until they try and expand and then watc
188 Wsan581 : I think jetBlue will be successful in ORD. First the LGB market will be solely theres. When B6 launched LGB - JFK alot of people thought this would n
189 JetBlueGuy2006 : I think there is way to much speculation going on right now. There is no official press release and not to offend anyone, but no one really has a sour
190 LGAtoIND : I am sick of everyone chiming in with all the "B6 failed at ATL" bullshit. Here is why your arguments are flawed: 1. B6 is a lot larger than it was wh
191 Post contains images Texan : Says the 16-20 year old armchair CEO from West Lafayette, Indiana Not that your points aren't correct, I just couldn't resist pointing out the irony.
192 Steeler83 : Hmm, that is a valid point there. LAX-JFK is a huge route for AA as well as UA, yet B6 drew crowds to fly the LGB-JFK route for a cheaper fare than L
193 Daron4000 : While I agree on the first points, and UA and AA are strong on the ORD-NYC route, they are very weak on ORD-JFK. UA doesn't fly the route and AA only
194 Steeler83 : Wow... I really thought that route did better than what you just posted to me, considering especially that JFK and AA are focus cities/hubs for AA. W
195 Wsan581 : Same goes for BUR. B6 has been able to draw crowds from SFO on there OAK, SMF, and SJC markets. Why not ORD.
196 Post contains images ATLAaron : The only way to settle the ATL B6 dispute is to have them come back and see if they last . . .
197 Post contains images JerseyGuy : Not necessary, Delta has brought it to JFK
198 LGAtoIND : Actually I am a Airline Management student at a major U.S. university. I have also worked for 2 major airlines, including one certain LCC based in NY
199 Post contains images JetBlueAtJFK : They are 17 miles apart says Google Earth and I trust them, unless you are saying something I am not getting. Are you talking about ONT? ONT is 45 mi
200 Wsan581 : If they are able to gain more slots then I think OAK, IAD, MCO, and FLL have potential.
201 Post contains images JetBlueNYFL : In that case, the only way to settle the Delta Song dispute is to have them bring it back and see if they last... I would bet on jetBlue's side any d
202 Post contains images Steeler83 : Yeah, it must have been ONT then that I was confusing LGB with. I guess I just did not realize that LGB was that close, then I should know better. Th
203 Post contains images JetBlueAtJFK : Burbank Airport is the other one. Besides that PSP is 110 mi from LAX, 95 mi from LGB, and about 78 mi from SNA and SAN is 108 mi from LAX and 75 mi
204 Post contains images JetBlueAtJFK : Oh yea I forgot about Santa Barbara (SBA). SBA: 85 mi to BUR 88 mi to LAX 105 mi to LGB 125 mi to SNA 130 mi to ONT So for LA's 5 airports's the close
205 LOT767-300ER : I cant believe anyone actually thinks JetBlue will prosper at ORD and UA/AA will not destroy them faster than Nagasaki in 1945. No one except AA/UA co
206 Steeler83 : Those were my thoughts regarding B6 competing against AA and UA, but someone pointed out to me that there is hardly any competition on ORD-JFK, BOS,
207 JetBlueAUS : While you might be partially correct - there have been several Trip Reports here on A.net that use JetBlue as a U.S. carrier when they fly into from
208 JetBlueNYFL : I can't believe that anyone actully doesn't notice that jetBlue proved so many critics, including yourself (LOT767-300ER), wrong so many times! jetBl
209 HPAEAA : not at ORD but WN/TZ competes from MDW... I dunno.. I tend to agree with the thoughts you were refering too... I personaly think it would be a shame
210 Wsan581 : Please read my post below: Keep in mind that JFK is a focus city for AA, and DL. Yet B6 has held there ground. What about BOS, and IAD? B6 competes a
211 Post contains images Wsan581 : Welcome to my RR.
212 Jacobin777 : ORD-BOS has 10 AA daily flights and 12 UA flights.. ORD-LAX has 11 daily AA flights and 11 daily UA flights....
213 AirTranTUS : Except for airlines in Hawaii. Then you have to a long established carrier because any new ones are not allowed.
214 InTheSky74 : I hate to burst anyones bubble, but the JetBlue Chicago rumor is just that - a rumor.... Personally, I think that JetBlue needs to look into GYY or RF
215 JFK998 : Wow.. so optimistic.
216 Post contains images JetBlueAtJFK : The thread starter first told us a day it was to be announced and it wasn't, okay. So they told us within the next week, okay still nothing. Now we ar
217 Crjflyer35 : I'd love to see some stuff in Michigan...preferably GRR. I brought that subject up months ago with B6 going into the Great Lakes area. I'm thinking a
218 LOT767-300ER : Great, what the hell does free enterprise system have to do with a particular market and its demographics? ATL and ORD are not the same kind of marke
219 InTheSky74 : JetBlue needs to get back to its original business model of serving smaller airports.... Fly from JFK to GYY and RFD. Do each city with 4 daily RT fli
220 Post contains images AirTranTUS : Currently in TUS we have one daily nonstop and 2 direct flights to MDW on WN and three nonstops to ORD on AA. During the winter months, UA usually fl
221 Wsan581 : ORD is slot restricted....maybe that's why they haven't entered...It is a know fact that B6 wants ORD not MDW. I hope they do land at ORD soon. It wi
222 Post contains images AkjetBlue : Coming up on almost two weeks now that we've been waiting... *tapping foot impatiently let me go get a glass of kool-aid...
223 AirTran737 : It isn't a flawed argument. B6 came to ATL. B6 got their ass handed to them. B6 failed, pulled out and gave some line about "relocating aircraft to t
224 InTheSky74 : ORD ain't gonna happen boys.....
225 Checkraiser : All this nitpicking and nobody saw the press release? From their website... The Talk of Tucson: JetBlue Begins Non-Stop Service From the Old Pueblo to
226 FA4B6 : We've known that TUS was a new city. We're talking about another, what we thought was, impending announcement about a *new* city. That's what this th
227 J32driver : It kinda bugs me that Delta gets credit for kicking B6 out of ATL. Delta wasn't the problem, AirTran was. B6 didn't count on AirTran contracting with
228 FA4B6 : I agree with you! If anything, we were expecting DL to respond aggressively (and they did). What we werent counting on is, exactly as you put it, Air
229 Post contains links JetBlueNYFL : A fellow poster over on FT found a very, very, very interesting link! http://dmses.dot.gov/docimages/pdf98/415940_web.pdf It's a 2-page PDF file...tak
230 Post contains images SKYYBLUE : So many naysayers.... Hopefully we'll win approval and bring some LCC action to ORD. Notice in the docket two 1130 flights. One of which will hopefull
231 InTheSky74 : Maybe they already said no?
232 FWAERJ : Unlikely... the document was dated September 28, 2006, so the FAA probably hasn't made up its mind yet.
233 InTheSky74 : Do they post the results on that site too?
234 InTheSky74 : Does anyone find that it's weird that all of the arrival authorizations are for the morning except for one? Seems wierd that you would run everything
235 BOSSAN : It would seem weird to have 7 arrival authorizations for JFK-ORD flights between 0830 and 1130, and 1 at 1800. However, I bet they're instead proposin
236 InTheSky74 : Are they allowed to add as many departures as they want for off-peak hours?
237 InTheSky74 : I honestly still don't think this is going to happen. Even if they apply for the slots, it doesn't mean that #1 they are going to get them, or #2 they
238 DL4EVR : Explain this.. forgetting about the future...how do they NOT have a monopoly right now??
239 JetBlueNYFL : I find it odd that you bring back a post from 30 replies ago. However, I'm not exactly sure what you mean by your question. If what you're asking is
240 Jacobin777 : WN doesn't compete out of ORD...WN flies only to MDW. Cheers..
241 JetBlueNYFL : I meant to say out of MDW...thanks for correcting me. Although a different airport, similar market (ie. JFK, LGA).
242 SKYYBLUE : You are right, it doesn't but who else would really need ORD slots? All the majors have what they need at ORD. Southwest isn't going to ORD. Air Tran
243 SANFan : I kind of doubt it, SKY. An 11:30 arrival at ORD would translate to about, what, a 5:30AM LGB departure. Wouldn't be a real popular departure time an
244 Post contains images Jacobin777 : You're welcome, and it is sort of a similar market.....Would be interesting to see how B6 would do @ ORD...at least it will make us photographers hap
245 Post contains links B6DC10 : CAN ANY OF YOU SAY - VINDICATION???? http://www.travelweekly.com/articles.aspx?articleid=53288&rbp=1
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