Bewley747 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2006, 59 posts, RR: 0 Posted (6 years 9 months 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 9464 times:
I think my medication may be wearing off....
But was there ever a boeing 727 operated by Dan Air that had some sort of reinforced "hump" on its back....?
I seem to remember visting MAN in the eighties and hearing people talk about it. They used to say that it had been involved in an incident in the US somewhere, and Dan Air had bought the aircraft at a low price and patched it up.
Does anyone know any more about this particular aircraft? I have had a sniff round the net - but can't seem to find anything... now i am beginning to wonder whether I am having some sort of breakdown !!
DL_Mech From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 1769 posts, RR: 10 Reply 3, posted (6 years 9 months 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 9088 times:
The "hump" is an ADF antenna which is located aft of the main wheel wells on other 727 aircraft. The ex-Mexicana 727's had JATO bottles installed in that area.
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AlexFord From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2006, 11 posts, RR: 0 Reply 4, posted (6 years 9 months 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 9023 times:
Bit big for an ADF antenna? The ones I used to fit to Helicopters were way, way smaller than that - why so large in this case?
I have never heard of JATO being fitted to any 727 but I stand to be corrected - anybody got any pics of them fitted?
If it was a repair seems a bit over the top, but it must have been an approved repair if it was. But why is the repair external to the fuselage? Anybody know what the alleged accident was?
The hardest landing I have ever had was in a Dan Dare 727 at Gatwick - we hit the ground so hard that many of the oxygen masks fell out of the ceiling!
Irish251 From Ireland, joined Nov 2004, 925 posts, RR: 4 Reply 6, posted (6 years 9 months 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 8860 times:
Quoting AlexFord (Reply 4): If it was a repair seems a bit over the top, but it must have been an approved repair if it was. But why is the repair external to the fuselage? Anybody know what the alleged accident was?
If you use the search engine on this site and look for "Boeing 727-264" (i.e. the Mexicana variant) you'll find several of them that have this fuselage "bump". It is nothing to do with an accident repair!
AlexFord From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2006, 11 posts, RR: 0 Reply 8, posted (6 years 9 months 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 8214 times:
Irish251 - thanks for that pic - something else I have learnt. Do you know if the roof hump is indeed a ADF antenna? As I said previously its seems enormously over-size just for an ADF antenna.
AA777223 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 1116 posts, RR: 7 Reply 10, posted (6 years 9 months 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 7134 times:
Anyone care to share what JATO is? I think it might be a little extra booster to help on takeoff. If that's what it is, I never knew those saw time on actual commercial aircraft. Any one have any pictures of one in operation?
Miamiair From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 11, posted (6 years 9 months 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 6994 times:
Quoting AA777223 (Reply 10): Anyone care to share what JATO is? I think it might be a little extra booster to help on takeoff. If that's what it is, I never knew those saw time on actual commercial aircraft. Any one have any pictures of one in operation?
Jet Assisted Take Off. There are four solid propellant rocket engines that provide extra thrust should the condition require it.
AlexFord From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2006, 11 posts, RR: 0 Reply 12, posted (6 years 9 months 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 6824 times:
AHH! Ferret - thanks for that. The humps are Air con pipes re-routed due to the JATO installation - apparently nothing to do with an accident or ADF antenna then - both seemingly innocently placed red Herrings in the search for the real answer : -) . Thanks for the help and clarification.
Aloges From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 8392 posts, RR: 47 Reply 15, posted (6 years 9 months 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 6665 times:
Quoting Airfoilsguy (Reply 14): What exactly are you trying so say. All I can see is a bog blur of colors.
He posted a photo from another site which doesn't allow that. Instead of the image, you get the header of that website in the same size as the picture you intended to post. That's why it's blurred, if you click it you'll know what site it's from.
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Sinlock From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 1533 posts, RR: 3 Reply 20, posted (6 years 9 months 22 hours ago) and read 6066 times:
The JATO system installed in on the Mexicana 727's were never actively used during PAX service. They were only to be used if an engine was lost during take off. The few pictures that are floating around were taken during testing or pilot training.
Cedarjet From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 7724 posts, RR: 55 Reply 21, posted (6 years 9 months 10 hours ago) and read 5793 times:
One thing is fer shore - Dan Air had a 727 which Mexicana banged up real bad, it made an unintentional gear up landing on a training mission, and caught fire. The aircraft was considered a write off but was repaired and sold to Dan Air. I have the details of the damage but they're in storage.
On a personal note, I flew on an Iran Aseman ("Iranian Sky" in Farsi) 727 from Dubai to Tehran a few weeks ago, the aircraft was a non-ADV machine from Air France, and it was such a beautiful aircraft. The takeoff roll at DXB went on forever, and even after rotating we just sat on the main gear for a while before gently waddling into the air and steaming out over the bay, not climbing much. (I can see why you'd want JATO after an engine fire at a high airport on a hot day!) The flight was smooth and I loved every second of it. Thanks Boeing and Iran Aseman Airlines.
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Speedbird128 From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 1151 posts, RR: 2 Reply 22, posted (6 years 9 months 7 hours ago) and read 5707 times:
Quoting Cedarjet (Reply 21): went on forever, and even after rotating we just sat on the main gear for a while before gently waddling into the air and steaming out
Every B722 takeoff run I have been on has been like that...
Ferret From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 123 posts, RR: 0 Reply 23, posted (6 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 5388 times:
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