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IB A340-300: Where To?  
User currently offlineRootsAir From Costa Rica, joined Feb 2005, 4186 posts, RR: 40
Posted (7 years 10 months 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 7036 times:

It seems as though many long haul routes from MAD to Latin ameica have been swtched from A340-300 to A340-600. for example, all routes goin to Central america (MAD-GUA-SJO-MAD, MAD-SJO-PTY-MAD, MAD-SJO-MAD)
, MAD-UIO-GYE-MAD, MAD-LIM, MAD-BOG, MAD-CCS.
These were traditionally served by A340-300 but with the coming of the -600 they have been replaced though I still believe some -300s still go to UIO-GYE.

I would like to know what are the routes that are served by the A340-300. It seems to me like there aren't enough routes in IB's network where these replaced A340-300 could be sent to . I can only think of GRU, JNB to name 2 examples.

thanks in advance

BM


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User currently offlineRAFVC10 From Spain, joined Sep 2005, 1980 posts, RR: 6
Reply 1, posted (7 years 10 months 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 6985 times:
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User currently offlineAlitaliaMD11 From Spain, joined Dec 2003, 4068 posts, RR: 13
Reply 2, posted (7 years 10 months 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 6914 times:

JFK, MIA, ORD, and MEX do often see the A340-600 along with the A340-300.

[Edited 2006-09-22 13:05:42]


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User currently offlineMD11junkie From Argentina, joined May 2005, 3146 posts, RR: 58
Reply 3, posted (7 years 10 months 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 6892 times:

Quoting RAFVC10 (Reply 1):
Buenos Aires

EZE gets the A340-600 everyday.

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User currently offlineRootsAir From Costa Rica, joined Feb 2005, 4186 posts, RR: 40
Reply 4, posted (7 years 10 months 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 6861 times:

Quoting RAFVC10 (Reply 1):
Miami,



Quoting RAFVC10 (Reply 1):
Buenos Aires,

Thought these got the A346 everyday.



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User currently offlineLipeGIG From Brazil, joined May 2005, 11416 posts, RR: 59
Reply 5, posted (7 years 10 months 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 6829 times:
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Quoting RAFVC10 (Reply 1):
New York Kennedy, Barcelona, Mexico DF, San Juan de Puerto Rico, Miami, Chicago, Caracas, Quito, Guayaquil, Santiago de Chile, Buenos Aires, Montevideo, Johannesburgo, Tenerife Norte, Las Palmas,...

GIG receives the A343 3 times per week, and use to see the A346 once a week.

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User currently offlineAeroMexico777 From Mexico, joined Oct 2005, 172 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (7 years 10 months 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 6740 times:

MEX quite often also see the 346...

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User currently offlineRAFVC10 From Spain, joined Sep 2005, 1980 posts, RR: 6
Reply 7, posted (7 years 10 months 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 6710 times:
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Quoting MD11junkie (Reply 3):
EZE gets the A340-600 everyday.

Iberia flies this aircraft sometimes when 346's are in check. See, as example on September 19 or on October 12. No as regular but EZE gets sometimes 343's.

Quoting RootsAir (Reply 4):
Thought these got the A346 everyday.

Miami gets 343 everyday.



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User currently offline797 From Venezuela, joined Aug 2005, 1891 posts, RR: 27
Reply 8, posted (7 years 10 months 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 6696 times:

That depends on the season and on the loads...

CCS is served by both. Right now, IB is sending their A343, but about a month ago they sent the A346, obviously for High-season.

MIA is the same. A month ago I saw the A346 parked at one of the gates. Last week, there was an A343.

What I can say is that their A343s Suck! especially the ones they send to South & Central America.

Cheers



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User currently offlineMIASkies From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 1343 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (7 years 10 months 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 6675 times:

Talk about a downgrade! miss the glory days of IB sending the Classic 742 and even the 743 into Miami!

It would be nice if they sent the 346 daily instead of sporatically



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User currently offlineRootsAir From Costa Rica, joined Feb 2005, 4186 posts, RR: 40
Reply 10, posted (7 years 10 months 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 6608 times:

Quoting 797 (Reply 8):
What I can say is that their A343s Suck!

You could never compare an A343 to an A346



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User currently offlineTACAA320 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (7 years 10 months 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 6596 times:

Quoting 797 (Reply 8):

What I can say is that their A343s Suck! especially the ones they send to South & Central America.

May I know why ?

Thanks.


User currently offlineFermarta From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (7 years 10 months 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 6574 times:

Quoting 797 (Reply 8):
What I can say is that their A343s Suck! especially the ones they send to South & Central America.

Of all the IB A343s only EC-IIH and EC-IDF never go to Central or South America. They fly only to HAV and TFN.

So which are those "special" ones? and what makes them "special"?


User currently offlineLTU932 From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 13864 posts, RR: 50
Reply 13, posted (7 years 10 months 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 6540 times:

I know IB exclusively sends A346s down to SJO, but a few weeks back, I saw an A343 taking off from SJO. I could recognise it just by listening to the engines, which made me wonder why on that day the usual A346 was subbed with an A343.

User currently offlineAntiuser From Italy, joined May 2004, 657 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (7 years 10 months 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 6427 times:

Quoting LTU932 (Reply 13):
made me wonder why on that day the usual A346 was subbed with an A343.

Maybe the load for that flight didn't warrant the use of larger aircraft, or they needed the extra A346 somewhere else?



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User currently offline797 From Venezuela, joined Aug 2005, 1891 posts, RR: 27
Reply 15, posted (7 years 10 months 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 6359 times:

Quoting TACAA320 (Reply 11):
May I know why ?

I don't know, maybe because those A343s are all a bunch of flying machines without any pleasurable goals pax-wise...

Quoting Fermarta (Reply 12):
So which are those "special" ones? and what makes them "special"?

Special is not the right word; I'd say UNspecial. Those are perhaps the worst aircraft I've flown. DC-9s here in Venezuela are more comfy and better looking than those ugly, dirty and uncomfy A343s...

I might have used wrong words, I said they send those to Central and South America because my best friend has flown several times to the States and they look different.

Cheers



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User currently offlineRootsAir From Costa Rica, joined Feb 2005, 4186 posts, RR: 40
Reply 16, posted (7 years 10 months 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 6306 times:

Quoting LTU932 (Reply 13):
which made me wonder why on that day the usual A346 was subbed with an A343.

Now THAT must be EXTREMELY frustrating for any pax who was expecting to fly the A346 !!!!



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User currently offlineRmcf From Spain, joined Oct 2005, 202 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (7 years 10 months 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 6257 times:

Quoting 797 (Reply 15):
I might have used wrong words, I said they send those to Central and South America because my best friend has flown several times to the States and they look different.

I really don't want to start a fight about IB...But do you think they have a special type of A340-300 with all kind of luxury things used for the US route? Of course not: obviously IB planes are not by any means wonderful but saying they send bad ones to Central America and South America doesn't seem very reasonable, knowing that these routes are the base of their long-haul program.
bye! rmcf


User currently offlineFlyguy1 From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 1738 posts, RR: 4
Reply 18, posted (7 years 10 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 6177 times:

Most day's, JFK is a double daily A340-600.


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User currently offlineAlitaliaMD11 From Spain, joined Dec 2003, 4068 posts, RR: 13
Reply 19, posted (7 years 10 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 6163 times:

Quoting Flyguy1 (Reply 18):
Most day's, JFK is a double daily A340-600.

During most of the summer it is. Towards the end of the summer and beginning of fall you see the double A340-600 on the weekends. Come winter both flights will be A340-300's for the most part until Spring.



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User currently offlineAvianca From Venezuela, joined Jan 2005, 5922 posts, RR: 40
Reply 20, posted (7 years 10 months 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 6073 times:

Quoting 797 (Reply 8):
CCS is served by both. Right now, IB is sending their A343, but about a month ago they sent the A346, obviously for High-season.

the 343 is used some days in the week and the 346 on the others, both aircrafts are regular schedueled into CCS



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User currently offlineTACAA320 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (7 years 10 months 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 5991 times:

Quoting 797 (Reply 15):
I don't know, maybe because those A343s are all a bunch of flying machines without any pleasurable goals pax-wise...

Then not only IB's ones. Every single A343s [???]


User currently offlineLTU932 From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 13864 posts, RR: 50
Reply 22, posted (7 years 10 months 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 5986 times:

Quoting RootsAir (Reply 16):
Now THAT must be EXTREMELY frustrating for any pax who was expecting to fly the A346 !!!!

Yea, but it was a treat for me. The first A340 landing I've ever seen was a visual by an A343, EC-HGU to be precise, on SJO's Runway 25, so seeing an A343 after such a long time was truely something neat.

Now I want to see in person an A346 land on 25. Big grin


User currently offlineAtnight From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 606 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (7 years 10 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 5909 times:

Quoting 797 (Reply 15):
I don't know, maybe because those A343s are all a bunch of flying machines without any pleasurable goals pax-wise...



Quoting 797 (Reply 15):
Special is not the right word; I'd say UNspecial. Those are perhaps the worst aircraft I've flown. DC-9s here in Venezuela are more comfy and better looking than those ugly, dirty and uncomfy A343s...

I can ONLY assume your are referring specifically to IB's A343s right? because AF's A343s for example are great... excellent AVOD IFE (even in Y class), great food, good service, super silent (I could actually sleep unlike flying on a 777).... so in reality, it comes down to what the airline puts in its planes... I do agree, IB pax service is behind the competition... so I'm sure you didn't try to generalize an aircraft because one airline has poor service...

Quoting TACAA320 (Reply 21):
n not only IB's ones. Every single A343s [???]

I don't think 797 means all A343s... read what I just wrote...



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User currently offline797 From Venezuela, joined Aug 2005, 1891 posts, RR: 27
Reply 24, posted (7 years 10 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 5904 times:

Quoting Atnight (Reply 23):
I can ONLY assume your are referring specifically to IB's A343s right?

You can only assume that because that's the right thing... We all know about IB's aircraft. I haven't flown on AF or any other A343, but I'm pretty sure there aren't many like IB ones...

End of the chapter.

Cheers



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25 RCS763AV : Well, BOG is a daily A340-300. They only switch some weekly flights to A346 during the June-August and December-January periods.
26 Airportmanager : In UIO were getting the A346 in a lot.... I love that, the A343 is too common now..
27 Panamandy : guys, i flew ib in/out sju onboard 343 and the planes where in better conditions than lufthansas! clean,safe,comfy,reliable, on time and nice f/a!! ev
28 Post contains images Arcano : Really? I've only flown 343s (several time) and although I'm not Airbus fana t all, I think it's nice. Why would I expect so much difference with the
29 Leskova : Actually, as usual, 95% of the people on board won't even know the difference - or they'll know, and simply not care (I'd be in that group). From a p
30 AlitaliaMD11 : With Iberia the differences are the seats and LCD monitors. The A340-600 cabin feels newer as well and you can't forget the awesome tail view camrea!
31 SFOMEX : I booked a flight MEX-MAD-MEX and I'm getting an A343 in both segments. The flight will be at the end of December and coming back in January. MEX has
32 San747 : What equipment does GUA see? -300s or -600s usually?
33 RootsAir : I think they now see the A346. Before the introduction of the summer schedule they exclusively saw the 343 but with higher demand on Central American
34 Avianca : as per system only day 1/3/5/7 is operated with A343 days 2/4/6 with A346 also in the lower season.
35 LTU932 : All IB flights to GUA, SJO and PTY are served with only the A346 since March.
36 Tavong : Only A.netters really care about the difference...in my case i rally would be very frstrated but since i haven't flown neither -300/-600 i would be v
37 Avianca : true, as for me both the -300 and the -600 of Iberia are in a bad shape, including the crews! cheers
38 Carnival air : what i iberias service like? do their A340's have personal video? im flying from chicago to madrid adn would like to know what to expect. carnival air
39 AlitaliaMD11 : No, Iberia doesn't have PTV's back in economy on their A340 fleet. If your flying on the A340-600 there will be large LCD screens located above the m
40 Rmcf : The -300 are quite old but still good, but the -600 are very new and in a perfect shape(at least the ones that I've flown). I always enjoy to fly the
41 RCS763AV : Thank you for the update. We are still an A343 destination, though.
42 IBERIA747 : What do you mean? The oldest A343 in Iberia's fleet was built in 1996 while the newest was built in 2002. I wouldn't call that "old". Seems pretty ob
43 Koenie : I just know that i flew the 340-300 back in november 2004 on MAD-SJO-PTY and I didn't like it too much.. but that's because of IB's configuration and
44 RootsAir : I thiougt they started to be introduced in 1994 as a DC-10 replacement
45 IBERIA747 : Yes and no. The A343 was indeed the aircraft chosen by Iberia to replace thier DC10-30s. However, the first A340-300 arrived in april/may 1996. It wa
46 Iberia340600 : As usual with the IB threads...the usual trolls are around to piss people off. Neither the 300's or 600's are in bad shape. All the 300's have brand
47 StationManager : All the 343 go to all 343 destinations and not always HAV and TFN are served by the same aircraft. For example, EC-IIH is flying today MAD-JFK-MAD-TF
48 Post contains images Rmcf : The -300 are old compared to these brand new -600 but are obviously in excellent shape. Even if the DC-9 is a great plane you can't compare it with a
49 Avianca : as usual and the truth or? I travelled allot with Iberia and they have really a bad service, they give you never the feeling your a a paying customer
50 Post contains images SFOMEX : They are a tradition here, aren't they? My only experience with IB was in the route MAD-TLV and I had a good flight which included a hot dinner for f
51 Iberia340600 : #1. Just to get things straight....bad service does not constitute saying that "Iberia's 340-300's and 600's are in bad shape". One thing has nothing
52 Iberia340600 : SFOMEX....I looke forward to hearing about your trip when you get back. If I were you I would go with row 22 instead. Row 8 is the first row in touri
53 RootsAir : IB is cheap in economy and service is average. However Bsuisness plus is one of the ebst in its class but you have to get a loan from the bank if you
54 Iberia340600 : Well... IB has to make money somehow right? LOL!! In order to offer the cheap fares in the back..it has to compensate. Although from some countries t
55 Avianca : well not that much like maybe others, to give you a data, 6 longhaul-flights and 10 intraeurope flights in the last 2 years. specially on the longhau
56 Fermarta : EC-IDF and EC-IIH are operated by Audeli and wet-leased for the TFN and HAV routes.They don't fly anywhere else. The HAV route is always operated wit
57 SKY1 : Incredible: A thread with an "IB A340-300: Where To?" title, turns towards remarks type "DC-9s here in Venezuela are more comfy and better looking tha
58 RCS763AV : I don´t know what is it that a.net users have against IB. I´m not gonna say i love them, but they are not a bad airline. Maybe the crews can be a li
59 IberiaA319 : Exactly, that's it. But there may be a few surprising exceptions. For example on Saturday (September 30), EC-IDF went to BRU as IB3214, whereas one o
60 StationManager : I know they are operated by Audeli but that does not mean they must fly only to HAV and TFN as mandatory. As IBERIA319 said on 30th sep EC-IDF went t
61 AlitaliaMD11 : Off topic in someway but I though I had spotted all 18 A340-300s in Iberia's fleet but on Saturday at JFK I saw for the first time EC-GJT!
62 Mkirch72 : I am flying MIA-MAD on 11/22 and the 343. I have seen the cabin pics on a.net and they appear to be the original cabins. Can you elaborate on the bra
63 Avianca : nice you had only good experience with them, I am not. I am not bashing IB I am only saying what I think about Iberia. regards
64 Post contains images Iberia340600 : MKirch72....the new seats on the 343's are the same new ones that are on the 346's. The greyish cloth. As far as the bashing is concerned, as SKY1 po
65 Post contains links and images IBERIA747 : Hola Federico!. Espero que estés bien!. About the seats on the A343. It's true that the seat colour has been changed to match that on the A346 fleet
66 IBERIA747 : Mkirch72, Trust Federico. Row 22 is the best by far and you have about 4 ft of free space in front of you. Row 8 is not bad, but cannot stretch your
67 Iberia340600 : Hola Alfonso!! Tanto tiempo!!! I guess I have just been lucky and the last few trips I have taken have been on the 340-600. Its a shame that the seats
68 Mkirch72 : Thanks to everyone for the info. Os lo agradezco un monton! Saludos desde Florida! Mike
69 Wanderer : Oh God, I hope I am well away from Row 8 on my flight. Me and babies/small children do not mix...
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