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DL B-772 Emergency Landing In BDS Last Night  
User currently offline777 From Italy, joined Sep 2005, 515 posts, RR: 0
Posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 15378 times:

Just read on this Italian news web site (only in Italian).

http://www.ansa.it/main/notizie/awnp...ssime/news/2006-09-22_1222745.html

It seems that the DL flight from Tel Aviv to Atlanta had problems (fire in the cockpit that caused also a break in a window with a consequent cabin depressurizing) while it was flying near Brindisi.
For this reason an emergency landing has been performed in BDS airport without consequences for the crew and the pax.

Anyone here knows something more about that?

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User currently offlineCURLYHEADBOY From Italy, joined Feb 2005, 940 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 15215 times:

The news are senseless, anyone knows what actually happened?

Fire onboard+blown window+rapid decompression... WTF??????



If God had wanted men to fly he would have given them more money...
User currently offlineTPAnx From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 1021 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 15119 times:

Sorry--misread BDS as BOS...too early here..TPAnx

[Edited 2006-09-22 15:07:49]

[Edited 2006-09-22 15:08:58]

[Edited 2006-09-22 15:09:21]


I read the news today..oh boy
User currently offline777 From Italy, joined Sep 2005, 515 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 15119 times:

Sorry but this news it's not senseless at all!

At the moment there is a special DL flight enroute from LGW to BDS (DL9902), the landing is scheduled at 15.00.

Then it will be back as DL9903 to LGW with those pax, with a scheduled arrival time at 20.20.

If you check the flight status page on the Delta website, you'll find:

DL153 21sep06 TLV-BDS Status: Diverted

[Edited 2006-09-22 15:18:55]

User currently offlineGokmengs From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 1123 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 15035 times:

I'm surprised this thread got no attention at all from the DL insiders here, the link posted here is just confusing, but it is a fact that the TLV-ATL flight diverted.
With DL's 777's being on short supply this will create a challange for DL fleet managers. Hope to get a clarification from DL insiders here soon.



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User currently offlinePanamair From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 4898 posts, RR: 25
Reply 5, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 14994 times:
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Quoting Gokmengs (Reply 5):
With DL's 777's being on short supply this will create a challange for DL fleet managers.

This morning's ATL-LAX-ATL flight (DL171/174) normally a 777 will be subbed by a domestic 763 instead as the 777 is stuck in BDS. The 763 is configured 24/228 while the 777 is 50/218.


User currently offlineCURLYHEADBOY From Italy, joined Feb 2005, 940 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 14958 times:

Quoting 777 (Reply 3):
Sorry but this news it's not senseless at all!

My fault, i wasn't clear enough, it's not the incident to be senseless but the way the news on the internet presented it. I agree this is one serious emergency that happened, I'm very surprised it hasn't been discussed... would be interesting to know what happened up there...



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User currently offlineRichierich From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 4248 posts, RR: 6
Reply 7, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 14943 times:

Thank God the aircraft landed safely. It'll be interesting to hear what actually happened - I am surprised this has not made the news at all!


None shall pass!!!!
User currently offlineLTBEWR From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13088 posts, RR: 12
Reply 8, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 14907 times:

I hope that this wasn't a serious problem, but one that reason required the emegency diversion. I suspect that it didn't get any media attention as it didn't involve a 'terror' related scare from someone who got a bottle of water on their flight.

User currently offlineCURLYHEADBOY From Italy, joined Feb 2005, 940 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 14809 times:

Quoting LTBEWR (Reply 8):
I hope that this wasn't a serious problem, but one that reason required the emegency diversion. I suspect that it didn't get any media attention as it didn't involve a 'terror' related scare from someone who got a bottle of water on their flight.

Well, looks like it was quite serious here is some more info i managed to get, still confused but a little more detailed:

-A fire developed onboard (don't know if in the cabin or in the cockpit)
-Crew managed to put it off
-A window blew (passenger window if I have to trust the news, the link between this event and the fire is unclear)
-Loss of cabin pressure and emergency descent + fuel dump
-Emergency landing in BDS
-Problems with the landing gear while on the ground due to overheat (brakes? Blown tires? Landing over MLW?)
-Everybody was ok (definitely the best news)

Probably it only made the Italian news because it happened in Italy and it was non-fatal (thank God)

[Edited 2006-09-22 16:21:44]

[Edited 2006-09-22 16:23:06]


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User currently offlineGokmengs From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 1123 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 14809 times:

Quoting Panamair (Reply 5):
This morning's ATL-LAX-ATL flight (DL171/174) normally a 777 will be subbed by a domestic 763 instead as the 777 is stuck in BDS. The 763 is configured 24/228 while the 777 is 50/218.

Thanks Panamair, this clarifies things a little.
It would be interesting to hear what is actually wrong with the A/C. I hope its nothing serious, resulting in a long MX.



Gercekleri Tarih Yazar Tarihide Galatasaray
User currently offline777 From Italy, joined Sep 2005, 515 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 14749 times:

I performed a check right now but nothing new appears on the Italian news websites.

The only update that I have is that the flight status page of Delta reports DL9902 LGW-DBS as landed and the DL9903 BDS-LGW as "at the gate".

Definitely strange that, outside Italy, nobody reports the accident!


User currently offlineJumbojet From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1159 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 14537 times:

Quoting Panamair (Reply 5):
The 763 is configured 24/228 while the 777 is 50/218.

First off, thankfully all on board are ok. Now for some petty stuff. Lets see, 50 biz seats on a 777 and only 24 on the 763ER. You do the math, undoubtedly there will probably eventually be 26 unhappy people sitting in Y. Hmm, I wonder how DL decides who sits in coach and who doesnt? Probably the least of most peoples worries now but eventually, you know the way people can be................

[Edited 2006-09-22 17:42:40]

[Edited 2006-09-22 17:43:10]

User currently offlineCURLYHEADBOY From Italy, joined Feb 2005, 940 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 14517 times:

Quoting Jumbojet (Reply 12):
I wonder how DL decides who sits in coach and who doesnt?

Shortest straw?  silly 



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User currently offlineGokmengs From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 1123 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 14488 times:

Quoting Jumbojet (Reply 12):
First off, thankfully all on board are ok. Now for some petty stuff. Lets see, 50 biz seats on a 777 and only 24 on the 763ER. You do the math, undoubtedly there will probably eventually be 26 unhappy people sitting in Y. Hmm, I wonder how DL decides who sits in coach and who doesnt? Probably the least of most peoples worries now but eventually, you know the way people can be................

Well, I doubt all those seats are full F fares, most of them are Medallion upgrades so the higher up you are on the DL Medallion Ladder, the better chances you have.

Its odd that still no news related with the incident.



Gercekleri Tarih Yazar Tarihide Galatasaray
User currently offlineRyanairCRL From France, joined Dec 2005, 190 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 14442 times:

Quoting LTBEWR (Reply 8):
someone who got a bottle of water on their flight

it might have helped to put the fire out  Big grin

great news that everyone is ok



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User currently offlineN160LH From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 280 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 13830 times:

Which 777 was it...?


"I do alright up in the air, its down on the ground that I tend to mess up..."
User currently offlineMKEdude From South Korea, joined May 2005, 1011 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 13605 times:

This sounds like a very serious incident (cockpit fire + depressurization) Serious enough that it should show up elsewhere in the media. Even the AJC, which will run anything DL related, has nothing.

Do we have any further info?



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User currently offlineDairy From Germany, joined Nov 2003, 241 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 12888 times:

Quoting N160LH (Reply 16):
Which 777 was it...?

seems to be N863DA

ACARS mode: G Aircraft reg: N863DA [Boeing B772]
Message label: 80 Block id: 0 Msg no: M09A
Flight id: DL0153 [TLV-ATL] [Delta Air Lines]
Message content:-
3C03 0153/20 LLBG/KATL /POS NURMO /OVR 0051/NXT MAC56 /ETA 0151 /ENS 5920N /ALT 340/FOB 1490/SAT 51 /WND 194033/MCH 83/TRB SMOOTH /SKY CLEAR /ICE NONE
----------------------------------------------------------[ 21/09/2006 02:53 ]-



A318/A319/A320/A321 AB3/A306/A310/A333/A343/A346 732/733/735/736/744/752/763/764/772/773 DH3 F70 F100 CR2 CR1 CR7 ATR42
User currently offlineDL763DFW From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 73 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 12833 times:

It was Ship 7002. The lower right corner of the R1 Co-Pilot's window heater overheated and flames were seen. Flight attendants reported smoke in the cabin also, probably due to the recirculating fans re-distributing air throughout the airplane. No injuries were reported, evacuation was performed normally. The heater was MCOed, and as stated is set up to ferry to LGW as DL9902. It will now make up DL11 on 23 Sep 06.

-DL763DFW


User currently offlineEvan767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 2957 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 12681 times:

Quoting Jumbojet (Reply 12):
Lets see, 50 biz seats on a 777 and only 24 on the 763ER. You do the math, undoubtedly there will probably eventually be 26 unhappy people sitting in Y. Hmm, I wonder how DL decides who sits in coach and who doesnt? Probably the least of most peoples worries now but eventually, you know the way people can be................

Rarely is that ATL-LAX flight full in F before the flight. Usually it is filled up at the last second by a bunch of upgraders.



The proper term is "on final" not "on finals" bud...
User currently offlineDC8FanJet From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 397 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 12389 times:

Sounds like simple windshield heat problem, not quite so dramatic

User currently offlineSkoker From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 439 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 12018 times:

Quoting Dairy (Reply 18):
Quoting N160LH (Reply 16):Which 777 was it...?


seems to be N863DA

WOW! This aircraft was the one that first got me interested in airplanes after my brother got a model of it (the exact reg and everything) as a gift a few years back.

Glad that everybody is OK.


User currently offlineJumbojet From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1159 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 11737 times:

Quoting Evan767 (Reply 20):



Quoting Evan767 (Reply 20):
Rarely is that ATL-LAX flight full in F before the flight. Usually it is filled up at the last second by a bunch of upgraders

This flight originated in TLV and was flying to ATL and is set up as biz elite, comp upgrades not available on this type of int. flight.


User currently offlinePanamair From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 4898 posts, RR: 25
Reply 24, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 11635 times:
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Quoting Jumbojet (Reply 23):
This flight originated in TLV and was flying to ATL and is set up as biz elite, comp upgrades not available on this type of int. flight.

No, what he's talking about is that that particular 777 was scheduled to operate the ATL-LAX-ATL roundtrip this morning after arriving from TLV. The BE section of the 777 is the premium cabin on that domestic flight and thus would allow for domestic upgraders.


25 Gokmengs : I think you are misunderstanding what we are saying here, I am saying ATL-LAX is upgraders(complimentery), not TLV-ATL.
26 Aero0729 : Sounds like hell...glad I was not on that plane!
27 Positiverate : let's not be so dramatic. If it was a simple divert because of a windshield heater problem, then I wouldn't characterize it as "hell".
28 Evan767 : I'm sorry but you posted a very confusing post. It seemed like you were talking about the ATL-LAX leg since you were referring to what Panamair said.
29 Post contains links Fanoftristars : Actually DL has some great pricing on the ATL-LAX "F" fares and is mostly sold out. There are very few upgrades on this flight. You can buy them aroun
30 DeltaMIA : There wasn't an evacuation. The plane taxied to a gate and passengers deplaned there. The passengers were sent to hotels for the evening except a few
31 Jhooper : This was the first 777 I ever rode on, back in 1999.
32 Post contains links DeC : For those who make ironic jokes on the seriousness of such an event, please take a look at this reminder here: http://aviation-safety.net/database/rec
33 CURLYHEADBOY : The media here are insisting on a cracked windshield and loss of pressure... do you think that this incident will be on the NTSB website anytime soon?
34 EMBQA : Doubt it. A failed window de-ice thermistor would not involved the NTSB. They happen quite often. Just must have been a slow news day. When they do f
35 Post contains links FiveMileFinal : Maybe not, but it could have been. I'm just glad that the Boeing 777 maintains its zero-pax-fatality, zero hull-loss safety record, and that, more im
36 EMBQA : Ahh... No it could not.
37 WorldTraveler : Brindisi has never seen an aircraft this big, I'm sure as evidenced by the need for the flight to stop in FCO on its way on to ATL. The fact that the
38 DL Widget Head : Our well trained pilots did what they were supposed to in this instance and put down at the nearest suitable airport, BDS. In the end, it really wasn
39 DLPMMM : So quick to be back in service. Great to hear Widget. Thanx for the update.
40 Ryanlock : I landed yesterday on DL12 (ATL-LGW) and soon realised after looking on the departuire screens that the DL T7 (N867DA) back to ATL as DL11 had been ca
41 Baw716 : Ryanlock, Your comment re: the effects a single aircraft out of service can have on the whole fleet is pretty much correct (although I have never seen
42 DeC : Yeah, easy for me and you to say it but imagine flying up there and having flames in the cockpit and smoke in the cabin…yeah I know the causes of t
43 CURLYHEADBOY : If the aircraft is back into service in just 1 day, this means the media exaggerated quite a bit telling the story... Though, one thing came to my min
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