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Jet Airways Europe/US Plans  
User currently offlineHumberside From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2005, 4918 posts, RR: 4
Posted (7 years 11 months 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 3488 times:

New routes could include:

LHR-Bangalore
Flights to BHX/NEMA/MAN/Paris/Rome/ZRH
India-MUC-YYZ
Mumbai-BRU-NYC (FINALLY!!!)

All UK flights would be turnaround and not cntinue to the US/Canada due to strong UK-India demand

Quote:
UK and Ireland general manager Emmanuel Menu said: “We want to become the key player between the UK and India.”

The carrier operates twice a day from Heathrow to Mumbai, daily to Delhi and began flying three times a week to Amritsar a month ago. Its next route will be to Bangalore.

Menu declined to name the regional airports under consideration, but they are likely to be Birmingham, Nottingham East Midlands and Manchester.



Quote:
However, Jet’s main target for expansion is North America. It plans an extensive network from India, flying via a series of European airports. Menu said: “The demand for UK-India is sufficient to cover a turnaround operation.”

The first route, likely to be launched next year, will be Mumbai to New York via Brussels. Jet had planned to commence this last year, but was held up by a delay in US regulatory approval - partly due to a legal challenge from a firm with the same name.

Next up is likely to be a service to Toronto via Munich, and the carrier is considering routes via Paris, Rome and Zurich.

http://www.travelweekly.co.uk/Articl...ys+take+on+UK+to+India+market.html


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User currently offlineA342 From Germany, joined Jul 2005, 4681 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (7 years 11 months 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 3398 times:

Quoting Humberside (Thread starter):
India-MUC-YYZ

It was known they were looking at BOM-MUC, but continuing the flight to YYZ ??? Is there a lack of capacity on YYZ-MUC ?



Exceptions confirm the rule.
User currently offlineKaran69 From India, joined Oct 2004, 2887 posts, RR: 18
Reply 2, posted (7 years 11 months 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 3157 times:

Quoting A342 (Reply 1):
It was known they were looking at BOM-MUC, but continuing the flight to YYZ ??? Is there a lack of capacity on YYZ-MUC ?

makes sense mate, there is definitly not enough O & D for year round terminator flights between India and Germany.

Karan


User currently offlineJfk777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 8329 posts, RR: 7
Reply 3, posted (7 years 11 months 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 3097 times:
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Jet Air has 773ER's coming, why no nonstops to the USA or Canada? Stopping in what is becoming a nonstop market in umcompetitive.

User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31679 posts, RR: 56
Reply 4, posted (7 years 11 months 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 3035 times:

Quoting Jfk777 (Reply 3):



Jet Air has 773ER's coming, why no nonstops to the USA or Canada

Not get cleared to launch to US.
regds
MEL



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User currently offlineA342 From Germany, joined Jul 2005, 4681 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (7 years 11 months 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 3008 times:

Quoting Karan69 (Reply 2):
makes sense mate, there is definitly not enough O & D for year round terminator flights between India and Germany.

I think you misunderstood me. I know very well there is a market for BOM-MUC and BOM-YYZ, but AC already flies YYZ-MUC and I wonder if the yields/loads are so good on that leg.



Exceptions confirm the rule.
User currently offlineBehramjee From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 4769 posts, RR: 43
Reply 6, posted (7 years 11 months 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 2938 times:

9W has never once indicated any interest to serve USA/CANADA nonstop from India.

Always they had maintained their interest to serve ONE STOP flights to Canada and USA to take advantage of 5th freedom rights and no pay load restrictions that a B 773ER might incur on BOM-NYC/ORD/IAD/YYZ-BOM nonstop routes.

I find BOM-MUC-YYZ a very interesting routing...however I would have prefered BOM-GVA-YYZ as this has more potential in the premium cabins especially.

Apart from BLR-LHR which deserves a nonstop A 332 at least 5 times a week...they should seriously dedicate 1 A 332 to fly HYD-LHR nonstop as the demand and yield is there + feeder traffic via LHR from USA/CANADA through VS/AC/UA SPA interlining agreements.


User currently offlineSshank From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 307 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (7 years 11 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 2875 times:

Despite losing a boat load on the LHR operations, 9W's UK obsession continues unabated...

Quoting Humberside (Thread starter):
New routes could include:

LHR-Bangalore
Flights to BHX/NEMA/MAN/Paris/Rome/ZRH
India-MUC-YYZ
Mumbai-BRU-NYC (FINALLY!!!)

All UK flights would be turnaround and not cntinue to the US/Canada due to strong UK-India demand

Quote:
UK and Ireland general manager Emmanuel Menu said: “We want to become the key player between the UK and India.”

The carrier operates twice a day from Heathrow to Mumbai, daily to Delhi and began flying three times a week to Amritsar a month ago. Its next route will be to Bangalore.

Menu declined to name the regional airports under consideration, but they are likely to be Birmingham, Nottingham East Midlands and Manchester.




http://www.travelweekly.co.uk/Articl....html


User currently offlineBlrsea From India, joined May 2005, 1421 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (7 years 11 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 2852 times:

Have Jet tied up with any other airline for onward connections to US from LHR?

User currently offlineLaxintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 25082 posts, RR: 46
Reply 9, posted (7 years 11 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 2807 times:

Lets see how the DOT responds this time to Jet's plans to serve the US.

The last attempt to launch NY services got bogged down with allegations of connections between Jet Aiways and financing provided by an alleged Al-Qaeda terrorist suspect.

Also Jet Airways needs to clarify the usage of its name in the US, as its currently registered to a Maryland based company which strongly objected to the carriers application and use of the name while serving the US market.



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User currently offlineHumberside From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2005, 4918 posts, RR: 4
Reply 10, posted (7 years 11 months 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 2795 times:

Quoting Blrsea (Reply 8):
Have Jet tied up with any other airline for onward connections to US from LHR?

UA I think

Do Jet and bmi have a interline deal at LHR and Mumbai? I think it would be great if the smallest two competitors on LHR-India teamed up. bmi could offer onward connections at Mumbai as well



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User currently offlineBehramjee From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 4769 posts, RR: 43
Reply 11, posted (7 years 11 months 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 2780 times:

Quoting Blrsea (Reply 8):
Have Jet tied up with any other airline for onward connections to US from LHR?

9W has trans-atlantic interline agreements via LHR with Virgin Atlantic and United Airlines only.

Yes 9W expected to lose money on the LHR route for the first 2 years of operations...such losses on newly started long haul routes is expected for most airlines as aviation analysts always predict that it takes 2-3 years for a new long haul route to mature and eventually breakeven.


User currently offlineConcorde001 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 1230 posts, RR: 3
Reply 12, posted (7 years 11 months 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 2724 times:

Quoting Sshank (Reply 7):
Despite losing a boat load on the LHR operations, 9W's UK obsession continues unabated...

Does anyone know if the lease costs of SA's A343s has anything to with the unprofitability of their UK flights?
As far as I'm aware, BA's India flights seem to be profitable - BA have publicly stated, particularly Willie Walsh, that increased flights to India and China have helped boost profits - VS have stated the same.

Does anyone know if AI or BD's flights are profitable?


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