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Delta MSY-LAX. Southwest Missed The Boat.  
User currently offlineMSYtristar From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 6520 posts, RR: 51
Posted (7 years 10 months 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 7271 times:

I applaud DL for starting MSY-LAX in December. Of course DL flew the route for years, usually with widebody L1011 and B767 equipment through the 80's and 90's. It was cancelled in 1997, operating as a daily B727 both ways.

Southwest has decided not to resume MSY-LAX for whatever reason, so it's nice to see DL pick up the slack and become the second carrier in the market.

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User currently offlineHumberside From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2005, 4917 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (7 years 10 months 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 7123 times:

I wonder if RDU-MSY will come back?

Maybe DL will expand further at MSY to fill the void that WN has created by not adding manty of they flights back again

Could DL Connection also be interested in SAT-MSY, which I think UA Express/Trans States are giving up



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User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (7 years 10 months 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 7095 times:

If Southwest was somehow precluded from again offering MSY-LAX non-stops just because Delta started them first, then I'd say your topic line was correct...

Quoting MSYtristar (Thread starter):
Southwest has decided not to resume MSY-LAX for whatever reason, so it's nice to see DL pick up the slack and become the second carrier in the market.

I'm sure that it's probably just a matter of priorities, and that we'll eventually have MSY-LAX non-stops again at some point.


User currently offlinePanamair From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 4864 posts, RR: 25
Reply 3, posted (7 years 10 months 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 7095 times:
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The eastbound LAX-MSY schedule is kind of at a weird time with a 6:30pm departure with no real DL connecting possibilities, except maybe for some Asian flights by CA, SQ, MH, and BR arriving LAX at the 3-4pm timeframe. All the other LAX transcons are pretty much red-eyes (RDU, CMH, BDL, BOS, JAX, JFK, TPA, MCO) and will start to benefit soon from the SFO, LAS, OAK, SJC, and SMF feeds.

[Edited 2006-09-23 20:19:04]

User currently offlineMSYtristar From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 6520 posts, RR: 51
Reply 4, posted (7 years 10 months 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 7050 times:

Quoting OPNLguy (Reply 2):
I'm sure that it's probably just a matter of priorities, and that we'll eventually have MSY-LAX non-stops again at some point.

I hope so. And I do think it is a matter of priorities for WN...DEN is obviously more important to the airline than MSY is currently.

At least some of the majors here are picking up some of the slack.


User currently offlineMSYtristar From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 6520 posts, RR: 51
Reply 5, posted (7 years 10 months 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 7042 times:

Quoting Humberside (Reply 1):
wonder if RDU-MSY will come back?

I would like to see it...that route did very well...but I don't see that coming back for at least the next six months. That being said, I didn't think DL would add LAX-MSY again, so nothing really surprises me anymore.


User currently offlineDAL767400ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (7 years 10 months 4 days ago) and read 6943 times:

Quoting Humberside (Reply 1):
I wonder if RDU-MSY will come back?

Well, let's just say it has a bigger chance of returning than MSY-LIT  Wink .


User currently offlineFlyingTexan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (7 years 10 months 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 6832 times:

Quoting MSYtristar (Thread starter):
Southwest Missed The Boat.

Well good for your home port - but try a different thread title, my friend. Delta has missed the boat many times more than WN ever will. Last time I flew DL, I missed my connection.


User currently offlineMSYtristar From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 6520 posts, RR: 51
Reply 8, posted (7 years 10 months 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 6769 times:

Quoting FlyingTexan (Reply 7):
but try a different thread title, my friend. Delta has missed the boat many times more than WN ever will.

Hey man! Well you know I was just talking about post-Katrina MSY flights...WN has been slacking....sure they have the most flights (not by that many) but the pace of the growth is painfully slow. Everyone here at the airport from the director down shares that viewpoint.

BTW, I am sad to say that the guest house you stayed at here probably won't reopen anytime soon. Remember that car ride?


User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26357 posts, RR: 76
Reply 9, posted (7 years 10 months 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 6761 times:

I am not a Delta fan, so I don't really care that much. I am happy that United is planning on bringing back the second of their 3 dailies pre-storm and going back to Mainline.


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User currently offlineMSYtristar From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 6520 posts, RR: 51
Reply 10, posted (7 years 10 months 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 6722 times:

Quoting N1120A (Reply 9):
I am not a Delta fan, so I don't really care that much

But it is nice to see another carrier add new mainline service to MSY. We need everything we can get down here. The airport is still a ghost town.

Quoting N1120A (Reply 9):
I am happy that United is planning on bringing back the second of their 3 dailies pre-storm and going back to Mainline.

The two Ted 320's go to two mainline 319's in December. An upgrade as far as i'm concerned. The market needs F class seats.


User currently offlineSESGDL From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3466 posts, RR: 10
Reply 11, posted (7 years 10 months 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 6702 times:

Quoting N1120A (Reply 9):
I am not a Delta fan, so I don't really care that much. I am happy that United is planning on bringing back the second of their 3 dailies pre-storm and going back to Mainline.

Why post about how you don't care? How useless. Just don't post in the thread then.

Jeremy


User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26357 posts, RR: 76
Reply 12, posted (7 years 10 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 6591 times:

Quoting SESGDL (Reply 11):
Why post about how you don't care? How useless. Just don't post in the thread then.

Did you read the rest of the post? Apparently not.

Quoting MSYtristar (Reply 10):
But it is nice to see another carrier add new mainline service to MSY. We need everything we can get down here. The airport is still a ghost town.

Oh it isn't that bad. Besides, you keep the place alive.



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User currently offlineChiGB1973 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 1613 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (7 years 10 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 6543 times:

WN's main problem is aircraft, isn't it? They cannot get enough and during Katrina used those aircraft to start/increase service elsewhere, now making it impossible to replace in MSY until more aircraft are available.

M


User currently offlineCleared2Land4 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 176 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (7 years 10 months 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 6134 times:

What is the equip for this route?


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User currently offlineTom in NO From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 7194 posts, RR: 33
Reply 15, posted (7 years 10 months 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 6085 times:

A lot of us at MSY wonder what is up with WN's snail's-pace return. Our traffic is around 65% of its pre-Katrina levels and growing.....yet WN is running a total of only 23 daily flights...there were nearly 65 pre-Katrina.

Glad to see DL pick up some of the slack.....though I would agree with OPNLguy that WN will eventually return the LAX flight, and I would hope OAK and SAN would follow.

Tom at MSY



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User currently offlineMSYtristar From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 6520 posts, RR: 51
Reply 16, posted (7 years 10 months 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 6071 times:

Quoting Cleared2Land4 (Reply 14):
What is the equip for this route?

B737-800


User currently offlineMCOflyer From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 8661 posts, RR: 15
Reply 17, posted (7 years 10 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 5650 times:

DL is starting to bring a lot of services back this year.

Orlando- Mexico City
Jacksonville-Los Angeles
New Orleans-Los Angeles

All these are on 738 a/c configured peeerfectly. Congrats DL.

MCOflyer



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User currently offlineCopaair737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (7 years 10 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 5580 times:

Is UA planning on bringing back SFO-MSY at all? It is nice to see MSY recovering from that catastrophe of a year ago.

-Copa


User currently offlineAirCop From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (7 years 10 months 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 5571 times:

Quoting Tom in NO (Reply 15):
A lot of us at MSY wonder what is up with WN's snail's-pace return.

Just a question is the current population base big enough to support the full service that WN had before? Seems to me you need people and enough people with disposal income to be successful.


User currently offlineDALOCCDtyDrctr From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 46 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (7 years 10 months 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 5537 times:

Quoting FlyingTexan (Reply 7):
Last time I flew DL, I missed my connection.

It would have sounded better had you said, "I missed MY boat...." (and probably made a little more sense).



N102DA
User currently offlineMSYtristar From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 6520 posts, RR: 51
Reply 21, posted (7 years 10 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 5219 times:

Quoting AirCop (Reply 19):
Just a question is the current population base big enough to support the full service that WN had before?

I'd say that the current population could support 45 flights a day on WN. Perhaps not 60 like they were running before Katrina, but certainly a lot more than the 24 that they are flying now. The metro population is still down from before the storm, but not by much. The big thing is the lack of tourism here still, which should change in the upcoming months with the return of the cruise ship industry.


User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26357 posts, RR: 76
Reply 22, posted (7 years 10 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 5153 times:

Quoting Copaair737 (Reply 18):
Is UA planning on bringing back SFO-MSY at all?

I can only imagine it will happen sooner or later. They were filling their 1 A320 per day before the storm, lots of it with Asian connections. It was definately their worst performer, but 1 flight isn't hard to do.

Quoting MSYtristar (Reply 21):

Damn, you got back to Metairie fast



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User currently offlineRL757PVD From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 4645 posts, RR: 11
Reply 23, posted (7 years 10 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 5118 times:

Quoting DAL767400ER (Reply 6):
Well, let's just say it has a bigger chance of returning than MSY-LIT

Ive been going to LIT alot in the past 12 months on work and ive been extremly shocked by the amount of business traffic that LIT generates, for a quick hop on an RJ, MSY-LIT should do pretty good.



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User currently offlineMSYtristar From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 6520 posts, RR: 51
Reply 24, posted (7 years 10 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 5075 times:

Quoting N1120A (Reply 22):
Damn, you got back to Metairie fast

Well I figure driving fast is the way to go. It just makes the most sense.

Quoting RL757PVD (Reply 23):
MSY-LIT should do pretty good.

That route was scheduled to start in September '05...two daily CRJ's, one of them routing MCO-MSY-LIT and back.


25 JetBlueGuy2006 : Wasn't jetBlue first to start MSY service afterward?
26 N1120A : Do you mean after the storm? That was Northwest.
27 BALAX : Good for DL. Now if they could bring back LAS-MSY. That was a great flight for nonreving in the mid 90s. Used to leave LAS around 2 or 3am. Took it 3
28 Post contains images AkjetBlue : Sounds like a very profitable route if it was good for non-reving...
29 MSYtristar : Some days that flight went out with 80 passengers...some days 250...just depended on the day of the week.
30 Post contains images B777-700 : Oh heavens to Betsy! I'm sure that never happens on WN. No, Delta was.
31 CasInterest : This weekend marks a very important turning point in New Orleans Recovery. The show and spectacle of Monday Night Football marks an extremely importan
32 Ejmmsu : Which one is it?
33 United319 : Northwest flew the first post-Katrina flight into MSY. It was an A320 operating MEM-MSY. Brought in something like 17 passengers if I remember correct
34 MSYtristar : United319 is right. It was NW with the 320.
35 Lincoln : Having recently flown through MSY it's nice to hear that more service is comming back. It wasn't as deserted as I had expected but it was clear that t
36 N1120A : Trust us, it was NW.
37 Post contains images MCOflyer : I agree with all the above. I hope DL brings more service into MSY. MCOflyer
38 Atrude777 : Another thing to consider and this is just me talking. DL and SWA have different situations going on, WN is more focused on other cities, and DL is in
39 Drerx7 : What ac are they using on the route?
40 N1120A : 737-800, as mentioned above.
41 Tom in NO : I've got the video proof of NW being the first airline back.....I'd just jumped off from my second helicopter ride viewing the damage, and the 320 was
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