Sorry for the qaulity but here is the last picture you will ever see of this plane in HP colors.
This brings me to a question. Now that HP is starting to send planes over again for painting, is an employee allowed to ride on the ferry flights over or does there need to be flight attendants.
Zippyjet From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 4716 posts, RR: 13 Reply 3, posted (6 years 7 months 4 weeks ago) and read 8098 times:
The new US scheme is up there as one of my favorite contemporary looks. Timeless and classy. The new scheme can even make some of those wo-be gone US 737-400s look like they had the number 1 lifestyles of the rich and famous treatment. Many US planes in the black livery look like they had Earl Scheib $19.95 paint jobs. Just my 2 cents.
HPLASOps From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 4, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 7903 times:
Quoting Phxplanes (Thread starter): Last night (friday) the first HP 757 was flown to Roswell, New Mexico to be painted into the US Airways colors.
Isn't that tail 909 that went to ROW for painting? Was that pic taken at PHX?
Quoting Ouboy79 (Reply 2): I believe its been discussed before...those are all going away.
According to my sources, that decision has not been made yet. They will be the last to get painted, if they do.
In fact, I thought the 757s would be painted after the 733s given that we still have a couple of 752s that need to get ETOPS certified. I don't believe 913, 914, and 915 have been ETOPS rated yet - if anyone else knows better please pass along.
HPAEAA From United States of America, joined May 2006, 1020 posts, RR: 2 Reply 5, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 7675 times:
Awww... I hope they keep HP's old themes around... I really like the Ohio... its always nice to see it flying through..
Phxplanes From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 436 posts, RR: 0 Reply 6, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 7646 times:
Quoting HPLASOps (Reply 4): Isn't that tail 909 that went to ROW for painting? Was that pic taken at PHX?
Yes this was taken in PHX, unless they decided to change planes before I left work (which is possible I guess) it was ac 910
Quoting HPLASOps (Reply 4): In fact, I thought the 757s would be painted after the 733s given that we still have a couple of 752s that need to get ETOPS certified. I don't believe 913, 914, and 915 have been ETOPS rated yet - if anyone else knows better please pass along.
HPRamper From United States of America, joined May 2005, 3661 posts, RR: 8 Reply 8, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 5522 times:
Quoting Phxplanes (Thread starter): This brings me to a question. Now that HP is starting to send planes over again for painting, is an employee allowed to ride on the ferry flights over or does there need to be flight attendants.
Pilot's discretion as far as I know. It's not a revenue flight. This is one case where knowing people helps. I have an open invite to check out ROW via ferry, just haven't found the time.
TropicBird From United States of America, joined May 2005, 502 posts, RR: 0 Reply 9, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 5262 times:
Quoting HPLASOps (Reply 4): In fact, I thought the 757s would be painted after the 733s given that we still have a couple of 752s that need to get ETOPS certified. I don't believe 913, 914, and 915 have been ETOPS rated yet - if anyone else knows better please pass along.
I seem to recall that 913, 914 and 915 will not become ETOPS certified.
MCOflyer From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 8552 posts, RR: 14 Reply 10, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 4748 times:
Quoting TropicBird (Reply 9): I seem to recall that 913, 914 and 915 will not become ETOPS certified.
Any particular reason why? Unless those are used for regular flights, they should be getting ETOPS certification. Thats my guess.
TropicBird From United States of America, joined May 2005, 502 posts, RR: 0 Reply 11, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 4503 times:
Quoting MCOflyer (Reply 10): Quoting TropicBird (Reply 9):
I seem to recall that 913, 914 and 915 will not become ETOPS certified.
Any particular reason why? Unless those are used for regular flights, they should be getting ETOPS certification. Thats my guess.
MCOflyer
I don't recall exactly why...I think it had to do with not being built with ETOPS specific equipment and the cost involved to install. I seem to recall that at least one of the aircraft is equipped for "EW" (Extended over Water) which entails life-rafts etc. Maybe someone else here will have more accurate information.
LGA777 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1100 posts, RR: 22 Reply 12, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 3997 times:
Quoting TropicBird (Reply 9): I seem to recall that 913, 914 and 915 will not become ETOPS certified.
I think it might have something do with aircraft age. These 3 are the remaining ex-Eastern birds, all built in 1984, 757 line numbers 35, 38, and 40. There are quite a few US-East 757's delivered new to US in 1993 thru 1995. line numbers 525-662, not including the 4 are already being converted. The difference in hours and cycles would be significant and with the two fleets being merged into one likely in 2007, so it would make since to convert, if needed newer former East birds that will likely remain in the fleet signicantly longer and be more reliable. Just my two cents !
MCOflyer From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 8552 posts, RR: 14 Reply 13, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 3912 times:
Phxplanes From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 436 posts, RR: 0 Reply 14, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 3563 times:
Quoting MIAMIx707 (Reply 7): An HP 737-300 went to Miami today probably to get the new colors.
I dont get why they send the 737's all the way to miami, why arent they done in ROW. Can an empty 737-300 make it non-stop?
By the way I think 909 was the first to be painted because it came back from ROW this morning so 910 is the second, I didnt know they had already sent a 757 over.
Cactus739 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 2379 posts, RR: 34 Reply 15, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 3551 times:
Quoting Phxplanes (Reply 14): I dont get why they send the 737's all the way to miami, why arent they done in ROW. Can an empty 737-300 make it non-stop?
PHX-MIA is about 2000 miles ish..... I know a fully loaded CO 733 can do EWR-PHX and that's 2100 miles, so an empty one should have no problems with 2000 miles..
Silentbob From Vatican City, joined Aug 2006, 1633 posts, RR: 1 Reply 16, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 3297 times:
Quoting Phxplanes (Thread starter): This brings me to a question. Now that HP is starting to send planes over again for painting, is an employee allowed to ride on the ferry flights over or does there need to be flight attendants.
If there are any PAX, employee or other, on an aircraft there must be a flight attendant and they must give the full safety lecture.
Crownvic From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 1590 posts, RR: 6 Reply 17, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 3191 times:
Silentbob...How sure are you about your response? In my former airline days, we (as employees) frequently took ferry flights w/out F/A's. I do not want to argue with you because rules may have changed post 9/11, but when we moved our planes around, we never required F/A's onboard for employees
MIAMIx707 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 18, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 3179 times:
Quoting Phxplanes (Reply 14): I dont get why they send the 737's all the way to miami, why arent they done in ROW. Can an empty 737-300 make it non-stop?
I imagine it's for painting since the only other time I've seen an HP 737-300 in MIA was about a month ago, to get the new c/s. It could be that Avborne heavy maintenance gives them a better deal than somebody else. For example, the 3 Varig 757s flew all the way from Brazil to MIA, and Avborne painted them for Air Union of Russia.. so now they have to go all the way to Russia.. Some months ago at least one ATA 738 flew probably from IND to Miami to get SpiceJet colors and then to India.
SonOfACaptain From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1747 posts, RR: 5 Reply 19, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 3179 times:
Quoting Silentbob (Reply 16): If there are any PAX, employee or other, on an aircraft there must be a flight attendant and they must give the full safety lecture.
Well gosh darn it, I guess I was flying illegally on all those 1900 flights I have taken...
AZFlyer84 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 107 posts, RR: 0 Reply 20, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 3119 times:
Sunking737 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 1930 posts, RR: 9 Reply 21, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 3088 times:
Quoting AZFlyer84 (Reply 20): There was a 757 in new colors in PHX tonight...
Bluewave 707 From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 3139 posts, RR: 8 Reply 22, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 3078 times:
I was told by an HP pilot who is a friend of an acquaintance, that HP has cut one of the PHX - HNL flights while the HP 752s get US colors. He said those old HP colors and logojets are rarebirds already.
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71Zulu From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 2731 posts, RR: 0 Reply 24, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 2945 times:
Quoting Silentbob (Reply 16): If there are any PAX, employee or other, on an aircraft there must be a flight attendant and they must give the full safety lecture.
Doesn't necessarily have to be a flight attendant as there are obviously none on the Beech 1900s and other small airliners, and one of the pilots will simply do the briefing. Don't know what the requirements would be for company employees deadheading on a company aircraft but doubt a briefing would need to be done.
Antoniemey From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 1503 posts, RR: 4 Reply 25, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 2792 times:
Quoting Silentbob (Reply 16): If there are any PAX, employee or other, on an aircraft there must be a flight attendant and they must give the full safety lecture.
So then FedEx and UPS carry flight attendants? I doubt it. I have a feeling that there is an exception for Employees taking part in non-revenue movements.
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