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User currently offlineANNOYEDFA From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 451 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 7977 times:

I tried to find the markets served out of LGA by Airways but couldn't find anything. I know they have the shuttle service, and service to PIT, PHL, and CLT, can anyone give some listings? Thanks..


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User currently offlineDanairbus From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (8 years 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 7957 times:

BOS
CLT
FPO
NAS
PIT
DCA
BWI
BUF
BTV
MHT
ORF
ROA
ROC
SYR
DAY
RDU
RIC
IND
There might be more but thats a start.

[Edited 2006-09-24 02:06:31]

User currently offlineA330323X From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 3039 posts, RR: 44
Reply 2, posted (8 years 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 7946 times:

Quoting ANNOYEDFA (Thread starter):
I tried to find the markets served out of LGA by Airways but couldn't find anything. I know they have the shuttle service, and service to PIT, PHL, and CLT, can anyone give some listings? Thanks..

Mainline service to AUA, BOS, CLT, DCA, FPO, NAS, PIT, SJU, STT

Express service to ACK, ALB, BGR, BTV, BUF, BWI, CHO, CHS, CMH, DAY, GSO, GSP, HYA, ILM, IND, ITH, LEB, LWB, MHT, MVY, MYR, ORF, PHL, PVD, PWM, RDU, RIC, ROA, ROC, SAV, SDF

A few of the markets listed are seasonal.

Mainline markets dropped recently include BDA, FLL, MSY. Mainline markets downgraded to Express recently include BUF, PHL. There haven't been any Express markets dropped in the last year or two off the top of my head.



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User currently offlineCOERJ145 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 1421 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (8 years 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 7946 times:

Quoting ANNOYEDFA (Thread starter):
I tried to find the markets served out of LGA by Airways but couldn't find anything. I know they have the shuttle service, and service to PIT, PHL, and CLT, can anyone give some listings? Thanks..

MHT/PVD/BDL/LEB/ALB/MVY/ACK/HYA/ROC/BUF/BTV/BGR/PWM/BWI/CMH/GSO/GSP
FLL/CMH/IND/ITH/ROA/RIC/ORF/SDF/SAV/RDU/ILM.
I think I got them all. Most of these are Express flights using DH8s or Be1s.


User currently offlineN670UW From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1605 posts, RR: 8
Reply 4, posted (8 years 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 7929 times:

Albany (express)
Aruba (mainline)
Baltimore (express)
Bangor (express)
Boston (mainline)
Buffalo (express)
Burlington (express)
Charleston, SC (express)
Charlotte (mainline, express)
Charlottesville (express)
Columbus (express)
Dayton (express)
Freeport (mainline)
Greensboro (express)
Greenville/Spartanburg (express)
Hyannis (express)
Indianapolis (express)
Ithaca (express)
Lebanon (express)
Lewisburg (express)
Louisville (express)
Manchester (express)
Martha's Vineyard (express)
Myrtle Beach (express)
Nantucket (express)
Nassau (mainline)
Norfolk (express)
Philadelphia (express)
Pittsburgh (mainline, express)
Portland, ME (express)
Providence (express)
Raleigh/Durham (express)
Richmond (express)
Roanoke (express)
Rochester (express)
Savannah (express)
Syracuse (express)
Washington-National (mainline)
Wilmington (express)

[Edited 2006-09-24 02:11:17]

User currently offlineN670UW From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1605 posts, RR: 8
Reply 5, posted (8 years 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 7929 times:

Heh, I'm so slow.  Wink

User currently offlineWDBRR From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 611 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (8 years 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 7897 times:

I know US operates out of the former EA/CO terminal
leased by CO...do they utilize all their gates or is there
room to grow?


User currently offlineDILF From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (8 years 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 7854 times:

Quoting ANNOYEDFA (Thread starter):
I tried to find the markets served out of LGA by Airways but couldn't find anything.

You didnt bother to do much research on your own, did you?


User currently offlineCoerj From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 238 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (8 years 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 7677 times:

Quoting WDBRR (Reply 6):
I know US operates out of the former EA/CO terminal
leased by CO...do they utilize all their gates or is there
room to grow?

They are very limited on space. The Terminal has two concourses, with very few gates, one of which is considered a dwarf concourse, used exclusively for shuttle. Express flights operate out of a normal jetways, with stairs leading to the ground. Many times there is a flight boarding and a different flight deboarding at the same time. At some times, flights are pushed back because there are too many flights located at the same gate.

The answer to your question is yes- all gates are utilized, and no- no room for expansion unless during off hours.

Next time book a connection through LGA- it's very interesting to watch the way they handle their flights.


User currently offlineJdwfloyd From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 837 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (8 years 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 7659 times:

There have been talks that Colgan may start CRW out of LGA. What is holding them back is a lack of A/C.

User currently offlineANNOYEDFA From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 451 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (8 years 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 7625 times:

Quoting DILF (Reply 7):
You didnt bother to do much research on your own, did you?

It's a web site for information... Next time don't post at all... L!@#r



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User currently offlineBatonOps From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 749 posts, RR: 4
Reply 11, posted (8 years 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 7497 times:

Quoting COERJ145 (Reply 3):
Most of these are Express flights using DH8s or Be1s.

Colgan operates a lot of the routes with Saab 340's...ITH being one of them.


User currently offlineCentPIT From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 990 posts, RR: 3
Reply 12, posted (8 years 4 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 7434 times:

LGA is a smaller station than I thought.



How many daily flights does LGA get from US Airways?



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User currently offlineCaptaink From Mexico, joined May 2001, 5109 posts, RR: 12
Reply 13, posted (8 years 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 7263 times:

Although it has been like 1.5 years, the majority my flights between LGA and PHL have been on mainline, A320/A321 to be specific. Is this not the case now? All Express now?

[Edited 2006-09-24 20:06:04]


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User currently offlineSupa7E7 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (8 years 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 7248 times:

US at LGA has a lot of flights, 180-200 or so, but not many passengers. The average size aircraft US puts there is very small. If the FAA forces US to increase average a/c size at LGA, you will see more human traffic.

The Shuttle concourse has plenty of room for more mainline flights to depart there (5-6 gates IIRC). The Express concourse is far busier, but seating is plentiful. US could easily pump up LGA seat count 50% and suffer no ill effects by using larger aircraft. Plenty of check-in counters, gates, concessions, club, etc. Overall a nice facility.


User currently offlineWjcandee From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5261 posts, RR: 23
Reply 15, posted (8 years 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 7190 times:

Quoting WDBRR (Reply 6):
know US operates out of the former EA/CO terminal
leased by CO

At what airport? At LGA, it operates out of what was the Trump Shuttle terminal, built by The Donald for his fledgling airline. USAirways completed the terminal when it bought the Trump Shuttle, and moved on in.


User currently offlineKcrwFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2004, 3828 posts, RR: 7
Reply 16, posted (8 years 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 7184 times:

Quoting Jdwfloyd (Reply 9):
There have been talks that Colgan may start CRW out of LGA. What is holding them back is a lack of A/C.

Its been talked about and calculated. They would likely take weight penalties on every flight, however the high yields of the route would offset them.


User currently offlineLGA777 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1149 posts, RR: 19
Reply 17, posted (8 years 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 7146 times:

The US Terminal was built for EA then EA/CO, but US took over the lease about mid-way thru constuction, allowing US to make some but not all desired changes to it's plan, it opened in Sept 1992. I am not sure when the EA Shuttle Terminal was built, I believe late 70's, early 80's and was eventually taken over by the Trump Shuttle, and at one time was also shared with Air Canada. The US Terminal is connected to the now US Shuttle Terminal in a way it is in essence one building but with a significantly different look. Most of the US Mainline flights actually operate out of the Shuttle building as it's design allows these flights to deplane front (jetway) and rear (airstairs) just like the Shuttle flights. On a full A-321 this can shave up to 10 mins off the turn time and is very popular with passengers who would be otherwise stuck in the back of the bus for an extra 5-10 minutes. Once inside the Terminal these customers follow lower level hallways right to baggage claim, ground transportation, and the street, an extremenly convenient option for inbounb US customers !


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User currently offlineSupa7E7 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (8 years 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 7120 times:

The point is that LGA has saturated its perimeter zone. So CRW might support a flight; oh boy. We are talking about a slot restricted airport next to NYC. In a natural situation every flight out of LGA would be mainline and full to the rafters bound for LAX, SEA, etc which in turn would enhance traffic on express flights out of LGA! LGA passenger traffic would soar, without affecting congestion.

If the NY Port Authority wants to maximize their LGA resource, they would drop perimeter restrictions. This would increase the revenue to the Port Authority from LGA operations. Why not make LGA the premier NYC domestic airport?

JFK and EWR have now fully matured, and are rock solid. But LGA is suffering now. It needs to serve the whole nation to really function at its best.


User currently offlineCaptaink From Mexico, joined May 2001, 5109 posts, RR: 12
Reply 19, posted (8 years 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 7100 times:

Quoting Supa7E7 (Reply 18):
JFK and EWR have now fully matured, and are rock solid. But LGA is suffering now. It needs to serve the whole nation to really function at its best.

Can LGA deal with the added aircraft movements? As it is now, it is pretty congested and delay prone. Or are you suggesting that, with the removal of the perimetre restrictions, airlines like US would reduce RJ/Prop use, and increase mainline jet service?

Still asking about PHL/LGA service. IS it all Express now? Cuase early morning, and late night arrivals were mainline not too long ago.



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User currently offlineDILF From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (8 years 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 7069 times:

Quoting ANNOYEDFA (Reply 10):
It's a web site for information... Next time don't post at all... L!@#r

In your original post, you said you tried to find out information on where US flew out of LGA ... but couldnt find anything? Where were you looking for your information anyway? For future reference, the US website might have been a good place to start - - or possibly the website for LGA itself.

And name calling is hardly necessary or mature. But then again, you've demonstrated your lack of maturity in nearly all of your posts on this site, so I'm not too surprised.


User currently offlineA330323X From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 3039 posts, RR: 44
Reply 21, posted (8 years 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 7065 times:

Quoting Captaink (Reply 13):
Although it has been like 1.5 years, the majority my flights between LGA and PHL have been on mainline, A320/A321 to be specific. Is this not the case now? All Express now?



Quoting Captaink (Reply 19):
Still asking about PHL/LGA service. IS it all Express now? Cuase early morning, and late night arrivals were mainline not too long ago.

As I noted in my reply 2:

Quoting A330323X (Reply 2):
Mainline markets downgraded to Express recently include BUF, PHL.



Quoting Supa7E7 (Reply 14):
The average size aircraft US puts there is very small. If the FAA forces US to increase average a/c size at LGA, you will see more human traffic.

The FAA's proposed new rules will actually not affect US nearly as much as they'll affect AA, since US sends a ton of its Express flights to small hubs and nonhubs, which will have exemptions from the proposed rules on aircraft size.

What will be more of a factor in leading to an increase in US's aircraft size at LGA will be their replacing two-thirds of the Chautauqua ERJ-145s with Republic EMB-175s.

Quoting Supa7E7 (Reply 14):
The Shuttle concourse has plenty of room for more mainline flights to depart there (5-6 gates IIRC). The Express concourse is far busier, but seating is plentiful. US could easily pump up LGA seat count 50% and suffer no ill effects by using larger aircraft. Plenty of check-in counters, gates, concessions, club, etc. Overall a nice facility.

Yes, US has plenty of room to expand the number of pax they move through LGA, as their operation has been significantly larger there in terms of mainline flights and seats in the past. Specifically, what is now the Express concourse once handled Metrojet in the not-so-distant past, so those gates were built with the expectations of mainline-sized aircraft and pax loads.

In terms of movements per gate, while it is not surprising that the US Shuttle concourse is the least-busy of all LGA terminals, it may surprise some to learn that the US Express concourse is in fact the most busy.



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User currently offlineSupa7E7 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (8 years 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 7054 times:

Quoting Captaink (Reply 19):
Or are you suggesting that, with the removal of the perimetre restrictions, airlines like US would reduce RJ/Prop use, and increase mainline jet service?

Yes.

There are plenty of marginal RJ/prop flights happening out of LGA whose slots would be put to better use going to LAX, plus about 10 other western cities.

If they nixed the perimeter at LGA, the mainline mix at LGA would go up by a lot. Plenty of RJ/prop flying would remain, but only the strong performers.

I hasten to add that this would increase LGA tax revenue and fees by a lot. If there is a downside, it would take some load off JFK, but at this point, NY/NJ need to maximize the assets they have.

[Edited 2006-09-24 22:43:14]

[Edited 2006-09-24 22:44:44]

User currently offlineSHUPirate1 From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 3670 posts, RR: 16
Reply 23, posted (8 years 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 6997 times:

Quoting Supa7E7 (Reply 18):
We are talking about a slot restricted airport next to NYC.

Only until January 1st, 2007.



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User currently offlineKcrwFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2004, 3828 posts, RR: 7
Reply 24, posted (8 years 4 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 6911 times:

Quoting SHUPirate1 (Reply 23):
Quoting Supa7E7 (Reply 18):
We are talking about a slot restricted airport next to NYC.

Only until January 1st, 2007.

Thats true. I think it will be very interesting to see what US does when LGA is no longer slot restricted.


25 Captaink : Sorry didn't notice. Thanks for the response though. That it would be.
26 DashTrash : The FAA isn't dropping the slots at LGA. That idea got the axe. Air Canada doesn't park at the US terminal these days. I see their aircraft parked at
27 Captaink : They park at the central terminal. Can't remember which concourse.
28 Post contains links and images A330323X : You just keep telling yourself that. No, it's completely misleading, and he knows that full well. The FAA has already issued a Proposed Order to inst
29 JFKLGANYC : "Only until January 1st, 2007." LGA slots will never be dropped. Period. The airport is above capacity. In the future, the number of slots will most l
30 Nkops : Probably because they are stuck in the EAS cities that RegionsAir was suppose to take over!
31 777WT : That's happening in Jan 2007 for the ERJ-175's to come in. As a temp replacement, starting in Nov. Republic is sending in 170's to replace the 145's
32 Supa7E7 : Agreed - however, I don't think LGA slots are worth much $$. With the perimeter rule, there is little to no additional mainline service that would ma
33 Steeler83 : Wow, then the LGA focus city is certainly bigger than PIT... Sad, but what can we say... How long ago was this? There is no non-stop service from MDT
34 STT757 : It's a joke what US has done with their LGA slots, way too many DH-8s. When CO first bought the slots during Eastern's liquadation they were flying b
35 DILF : Whats HEF? You stumped me on that one!
36 Post contains images FCYTravis : How about you go whine about Eagle's JungleShuttle service to DCA and BOS? Now there's an egregious abuse of slots. The vast majority of US LGA fligh
37 KcrwFlyer : Really? Manassas? They announced service there???
38 Captaink : I agree with on that. True US has a lot Prop/RJ flights out of LGA, but to small airports that really don't see much traffic at all, and won't be abl
39 Cancidas : all LGA-PHL is flown by express carrier. SAV is only seasonal, no direct service right now. same for LWB, no flights now. MVY, HYA and ACK services ar
40 Post contains links KcrwFlyer : http://flightaware.com/live/flight/CHQ3290 Are you sure?
41 FCYTravis : LGA-PHL by all-Express makes sense. Really, what's the O&D on that route anymore? With all the new security requirements, you've got to show up an hou
42 Captaink : When I flew that route, I usually came in from the caribbean, and the flights between PHL and LGA were by and large connecting passengers, from the c
43 N1120A : They can't even get around the taxi lobby enough to get a subway line built to the airport, that right there hurts LGA. Further, the airport is alrea
44 FCYTravis : Why would the perimeter rule have anything to do with this? Nobody said get rid of the slot rule - just get rid of the perimeter. Keep the same numbe
45 N1120A : The issue is that you then lose service to a lot of communities that are too small or too close to get service to anywhere other than LGA. As it is,
46 FCYTravis : Again, no you wouldn't. Just cut 5 of the 20x-daily RDU RJ flights. Upgauge a couple PHL flights back to mainline and reduce frequencies. Etc. etc. e
47 N1120A : And you actually think that would happen? No, the 20x RDU RJs would stick, PHL would stay express and bumshag Egypt would lose out. I see you failed
48 JFKLGANYC : "Why should Dallas and Chicago get eleventy billion non-stop flights to LGA, but San Francisco and Los Angeles get zero? Absolutely nonsensical, anti-
49 FCYTravis : I wish you would all stop bringing up strawman arguments. Nobody here is arguing that slots should go away - only the asinine, anti-competitive perime
50 DashTrash : I have an idea... CLOSE THE PLACE DOWN!!!!!!! I'd rather have hemeroid surgery than spend a day doing LGA turns. Throw in the Port Authority's redicul
51 777WT : For what I know, US Airways flys LGA-AUA on saturdays which is beyond the perimeter rule.
52 Quickmover : Did USAir's big DCA, PHL, BOS, and LGA operations originally come from Piedmont or Allegehny?
53 BatonOps : I bet with Cornell University being in ITH that has a lot to do with the 5 daily Saab flights to LGA. They must be worth something to US or I'm sure
54 Cancidas : KcrwFlyer, that's what happens when you work night shifts, you forget about what happens in the mornings. thanks.
55 STT757 : The JFK folks would love that because it would mean that JFK would finally get some decent service levels to Chicago, Detroit, Boston, Toronto, Colum
56 N1120A : If anything, the perimeter rules open up competition to those airlines that don't have the ability to expand. Slot rules are significantly more anti-
57 KcrwFlyer : I know what you mean.
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