747400sp From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3883 posts, RR: 2 Posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 5038 times:
I missed out on a chance to see QF fly 747 300 on the ACK-LAX last November, because I live on east coast now. But I am amost willing to fly to LA just to hear those RB 2:11 524 D4 at full power. After NZ retired there 747 200 fleet nothing at LAX sound or look as exciting as those 747 200 flying LAX- ACK at take off. I know with a 747 300 on same route would take up as much as those NZ 747 200 or more and would be as loud. So is QF flying 747 300 nonstop to LAX and if so when?
B744s are scheduled to operate the route year round. QF only send a B743 on the route when one of the B744s that operate AKL-LAX is in MX or out of service. You basically never know when a QF B743 will be in LAX.
Yes they can! The return LAX-AKL is a bit of a push and sometimes tech stops at NAN for fuel.
As to the 743's to LAX they also operated between April and June 2006 on 3 flights a week, some stopped in HNL on the AKL-LAX leg due to runway works at AKL. Gotta agree I love watching the 743 take off to AKL to LAX fully loaded!
AirCop From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 4897 times:
Quoting RoseFlyer (Reply 2): the first plane well suited for that route was the 744 although the 747SP could fly AKL-LAX nonstop and did for Pan Am.
What??? I flown QF's747-200 from LAX-AKL-LAX, ditto for NZ's and Pan Am from SFO. During a sixteen hour delay in June 1989 on the QF LAX-AKL (we were supposed to leave at 2245 finally did at 1400 the next day) that next morning QF morning arrival non-stop from SYD was operated with a 300 series instead of the SP, although going w/b we were told that it would have to make a tech stop at AKL for fuel.
ZK-NBT From New Zealand, joined Oct 2000, 5387 posts, RR: 11
Reply 8, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 4769 times:
Quoting AirCop (Reply 7):
I boarded a Pan Am 747 in SFO and 13 hours later landed at AKL. Ditto the return. The schedule in 1977/1978 I believe was once or twice a week. In 1979 this service was moved to LAX.
Ok, I wasn't aware that anyone had flown SFO-AKL non stop before NZ. UA at one stage had a SFO-HNL-AKL-SYD flight.
B52murph From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 241 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 4528 times:
Quoting N1120A (Reply 6): Quoting RoseFlyer (Reply 2):
The first plane well suited for that route was the 744 although the 747SP could fly AKL-LAX nonstop and did for Pan Am.
The 747SP actually has longer range than the 744
According to the a/c data, only in a ferrying capacity:
747-400 - Max cruising speed 939km/h (507kt), long range cruising speed 907km/h (490kt). Design range with 420 three class pax at 396,895kg (875,000lb) MTOW 13,491km (7284nm) with PW-4000s, 13,444km (7259nm) with GEs, 13,214km (7135nm) with RB-211s.
747-400ER - Range at MTOW 14,205km (7670nm).
747-400ERF - Range at MTOW 9200km (4970nm).
Max speed 1000km/h (540kt). Range with 331 passengers and baggage 10,840km (5855nm), range with 276 passengers 12,325km (6650nm), ferry range with max fuel and 13,610kg (30,000lb) payload 15,400km (8315nm).