8herveg From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2006, 1118 posts, RR: 0 Posted (6 years 9 months 1 hour ago) and read 7500 times:
I travelled to Barcelona recently with BA, on one of their Euro fleet Boeing 767s. I noticed that the rear of the aircraft had cloth seats, and the front had leather.
What is the reason behind this? Will they eventually be changed to an all leather material? Is it like this on any of their other aircraft?
SK736 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2006, 414 posts, RR: 0 Reply 5, posted (6 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 7219 times:
Quoting 8herveg (Reply 4): Are they going to change it every? Looks very messy!
There's another thread about that very subject. Apparently the short haul fleet is being reconfigured to squeeze more seats in - maybe that's the time they'll dump the cloth seats.
Xxzz123 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2000, 48 posts, RR: 0 Reply 6, posted (6 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 7219 times:
I think that Sky736 got it right - the cloth covered seats at the rear are not interchangeable to the front of the cabin. I also understand that potentially 'troublesome' pax - i.e. a party of kids or otherwise will usually be seated at the rear of the cabin where any damage caused to the seats is more easily repaired.
AlanUK From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 9, posted (6 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 6774 times:
Soon only the 767 will have the rear cabin in fabric rather than leather. The 757s will be comdified to the new SpaceSaver seats, and that will mean the rear cabin will be changed to leather. No word on the 767s yet, I guess they don't have that much longer to go to warrant a cabin change.
The Airbus has always had leather seats throughout, even the old BCal ones!
8herveg From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2006, 1118 posts, RR: 0 Reply 10, posted (6 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 6759 times:
Quoting AlanUK (Reply 9): Soon only the 767 will have the rear cabin in fabric rather than leather. The 757s will be comdified to the new SpaceSaver seats, and that will mean the rear cabin will be changed to leather. No word on the 767s yet, I guess they don't have that much longer to go to warrant a cabin change.
The Airbus has always had leather seats throughout, even the old BCal ones!
Regards
Thankyou! The most decent answer I have had so far!! It is a shame the Europe fleet 767s don't have any plans of becoming and all leather cabin. You would have thought they would have 'dusked' ALL the 767s, even when the long-haul ones were being converted!!
AlanUK From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 11, posted (6 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 6582 times:
Quoting 8herveg (Reply 10): You would have thought they would have 'dusked' ALL the 767s, even when the long-haul ones were being converted!!
Dusk is only for long haul planes, as it means the installation of the Club World beds and World Traveller Plus, so short haul planes were never going to be dusked.
Personally, I think that the remaining short haul 767s will eventually be converted to long haul, so BA can expand its long haul network without buying new planes, until the new 777s are delivered in 2008. The arrival of more 320/321 will fill in the gap for the European network. That's just my guess though.
Pavvyben From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2006, 178 posts, RR: 3 Reply 12, posted (6 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 6109 times:
Quoting AlanUK (Reply 11): Personally, I think that the remaining short haul 767s will eventually be converted to long haul,
Yup, they are dusking all as all 767's are going long haul, they won't be operating any short-haul for BA soon. I think your also right in saying that buses are going to be taking over all euro routes. Should be interesting to see what the new club world seats (747 first, 767 last) are like and the new IFE (AVOD) Audio and Visual on Demand IFE which is being fitted to the 767 (G-BNWC first)
Sorry to be ignorant, but whats does that mean? Seen it in quite a few topic discussions on a.net.
Also, will the rest of the 767s really be converted to long-haul? I think its a brilliant idea by BA if they do, so they can fill in some of the niche markets available by other european airlines currently.
Before the 767s were dusked, what classes were available? Traveller, Traveller Plus and Club? Were the two former the same seats as they are now but just without PTVs?
8herveg From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2006, 1118 posts, RR: 0 Reply 15, posted (6 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 5726 times:
Quoting Pavvyben (Reply 12): Should be interesting to see what the new club world seats (747 first, 767 last) are like and the new IFE (AVOD) Audio and Visual on Demand IFE which is being fitted to the 767 (G-BNWC first)
I thought they were not going to put the New Club World seats on the 767s, because they have only just been dusked?
MCOflyer From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 8557 posts, RR: 14 Reply 16, posted (6 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 4976 times:
Quoting Pavvyben (Reply 12): Yup, they are dusking all as all 767's are going long haul, they won't be operating any short-haul for BA soon. I think your also right in saying that buses are going to be taking over all euro routes. Should be interesting to see what the new club world seats (747 first, 767 last) are like and the new IFE (AVOD) Audio and Visual on Demand IFE which is being fitted to the 767 (G-BNWC first)
There was post on here already about the dusking of 767's. I believe the first dusking 767's will go on DTW route as a a-netter indicated in a prevous post.
AlanUK From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 18, posted (6 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 3887 times:
Quoting MCOflyer (Reply 16): There was post on here already about the dusking of 767's. I believe the first dusking 767's will go on DTW route as a a-netter indicated in a prevous post.
Quoting MCOflyer (Reply 16): I believe the first dusking 767's will go on DTW route as a a-netter indicated in a prevous post.
I think there is some confusion here. All long haul 767s have been dusked already. The NEW Club World conversion is called "streched" (as supposed to Dusked). 767s are not going to get streched (no New Club World) because they have only just been dusked and it is widely expected that these aircraft will be retired within a few years.
Quoting 8herveg (Reply 14): Before the 767s were dusked, what classes were available? Traveller, Traveller Plus and Club? Were the two former the same seats as they are now but just without PTVs?
Before the 767 were dusked, they were configured with First (8) Club World (Cradle seat) and World Traveller. Once dusked, First was removed, and the New Club World, World Traveller Plus seats were put in, and the World Traveller seats got the seat back screens added.
Wrighbrothers From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 1875 posts, RR: 9 Reply 19, posted (6 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 2943 times:
Quoting 8herveg (Thread starter): travelled to Barcelona recently with BA, on one of their Euro fleet Boeing 767s. I noticed that the rear of the aircraft had cloth seats, and the front had leather.
What is the reason behind this? Will they eventually be changed to an all leather material? Is it like this on any of their other aircraft?
The true reason, is because when they were converted to leather seats, BA was in financial trouble, it would be too expensive for BA to convert all the seats to leather, so they decided that on the 757 and 767 fleet, they would leave the rear cabin with cloth seats, as they weren't convertible seats, and the airline would probably fill up from the front of the cabin, so to save money, they only converted club and the convertable cabin
There you go
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SK736 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2006, 414 posts, RR: 0 Reply 20, posted (6 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 2884 times:
Quoting 8herveg (Reply 10): Thankyou! The most decent answer I have had so far!!
Well that's gratitude for you! Thanks for being so supportive of all the other people who took the time to respond to your post. Next time I won't bother!
LHR777 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 21, posted (6 years 8 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 2802 times:
Quoting Xxzz123 (Reply 6): I also understand that potentially 'troublesome' pax - i.e. a party of kids or otherwise will usually be seated at the rear of the cabin where any damage caused to the seats is more easily repaired.
What? Where the hell did that come from??!! We never seat our customers on that basis!
AlanUK From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 23, posted (6 years 8 months 4 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 2664 times:
Quoting MD-90 (Reply 22): "Dusked?" What does that mean?
As said before, "dusk" is the name given to the installation of the Club World beds from the previous Cradle seat, and the addition of the World Traveller Plus seats on the aircraft.
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