I'm also waiting on flight 6101 to get to ATL so it can then get to MSY so it can then get to MCO and then I can go home. According to http://www.fly.faa.gov/flyfaa/usmap.jsp , ATL is showing this:
Due to EQUIPMENT, there is a Traffic Management Program in effect for traffic arriving The William B Hartsfield International Airport, Atlanta, GA (ATL). This is causing some arriving flights to be delayed an average of 3 hours and 57 minutes. To see if you may be affected, select your departure airport and check "Delays by Destination".
What does Equipment mean? ATC Equipment failure possibly? What a mess that place must be.
RamerinianAir From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1486 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (8 years 7 months 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 5819 times:
For Real??? That sucks!
The radar coverage north of the LI sound was out on one of my cross country flights . . . it sucked for us to have to calculate and report every few minutes our progress. I can only imagine the chaos in the area!
DAMN! No wonder everything is such a mess. Looks like I'm going to be here at work till at least 1am as of now thanks to this mess in ATL. It also doesn't help when Freedom doesn't have a crew set for the flight. But that's another story...
DAirbus From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 596 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (8 years 7 months 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 5579 times:
Quoting N766UA (Reply 5): Speaking of what's up with ATL... where the heck did 26L go?
It's still there.... sort of. It is being rebuilt at the cost of $96 million and will be shut down until until November. The notam is below.
A0595/06 (09/027) - RUNWAY CLOSED 08R/26L UNTIL 08 NOV 06:30
The main impact of 8R-26L being closed is that it completely disrupts the ground traffic flow at the airport. On the south side, aircraft must cross runways to get to/from the concourses. Once visibility and/or ceilings drop below a certain level, aircraft must land on 9R-27L instead of 9L-27R because there is not enough separation between 9L-27R and 10-28 for simultaneous ILS approaches. The radar that is supposed to monitor the approaches to allow for simultaneous approaches to these two runways is not commissioned yet since in needs some time for "burn in" and testing before it can be put into use. Therefore, departing aircraft must cross 9L-27R between landing traffic to use 9R-27L or 10-28 for takeoff.
On the north side, 8L-26R is being used primarily for departures unless there is a peak of inbound traffic in which case departures must be staggered with arrivals. This can and has caused significant delays for westbound and northbound departures, especially if you throw in some wx like what happened this morning.
We had taxi out times this morning between 1000-1200L of one and a half to two hours due to wx and the runway closure. This also caused gridlock on the ramp since the traffic flow pattern was all screwed up. I saw up to eight aircraft at a time lined up on the ramp between concourses C and D waiting for their turn to taxi to the runway. Also, due to the outragous taxi delays, the ATC wheels up times for all the return flights were shot. It was utter chaos even the wx was not really that bad compared to other IROP days. The radar failure in the afternoon just added insult to injury.
Here is a recent photo of ATL which clearly shows the work on 8R-26L in progress.
Kaitak744 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 2443 posts, RR: 3
Reply 9, posted (8 years 7 months 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 5450 times:
Well, forgive me if I am wrong, but shouldn't the runway closure have no effect on the traffic? The new runway permits 3 VFR approaches at once. With one runway down, there are 2 for landing and 2 for takeoff. That is what was there before. Whats the big fuss then?
AirTran737 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 3714 posts, RR: 12
Reply 10, posted (8 years 7 months 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 5427 times:
Quoting Kaitak744 (Reply 9): Well, forgive me if I am wrong, but shouldn't the runway closure have no effect on the traffic? The new runway permits 3 VFR approaches at once. With one runway down, there are 2 for landing and 2 for takeoff. That is what was there before. Whats the big fuss then?
The big fuss is that ATL was way over capacity when the 5th runway opened up in May. When it opened up it too ATL from severly over capacity down to wildly over capacity. Then add IFR conditions in, as well as using one of the runways for departures and arrivals and you have one big FUBAR.
Nice Trip Report!!! Great Pics, thanks for posting!!!! B747Forever