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Comair Crash Survivor Has Leg Amputated  
User currently offlineKarlB737 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 3105 posts, RR: 10
Posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 11118 times:

Courtesy: Associated Press

Comair Crash Survivor Has Leg Amputated

"he does not remember the accident that killed 49 people, his family said Monday."

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories...=OHTOL&SECTION=US&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

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User currently offlineMD88Captain From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 1330 posts, RR: 20
Reply 1, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 11090 times:

Well there goes the career.

User currently offlineRikkus67 From Canada, joined Jun 2000, 1631 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 11045 times:

This man has been through more than his fair share of difficulties in his life. I do hope he is able to recover as fully as possible.

...And, as always, my thoughts and prayers to the others on that flight, RIP



AC.WA.CP.DL.RW.CO.WG.WJ.WN.KI.FL.SK.ACL.UA.US.F9
User currently offlineAussieindc From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 437 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 11013 times:

Quoting MD88Captain (Reply 1):
Well there goes the career.

I have to admit, that was my FIRST thought as well. On the other hand, he's lucky to be alive so I don't think he'll be worrying too much about the career aspect.

Here's to a speedy recovery and personally, (I'll wait for the flames), I hope he doesn't regain his memory.


User currently offlineCharliejag1 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 239 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 10988 times:

I also hope he remains in the dark about the accident as much as possible. Of course he will be dealing with it legally for some time, but I hope he doesn't ever remember it. Hopefully he can find another vocation after he has recovered and dug himself out of his hole with the FAA and the courts.

User currently offlineExarmywarrant From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 267 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 10988 times:

Quoting MD88Captain (Reply 1):
Well there goes the career.

Not to be insensitive, but I think his career was pretty well in the dumper anyway...


User currently offlineNkops From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 2662 posts, RR: 6
Reply 6, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 10921 times:

Quoting Exarmywarrant (Reply 5):
Not to be insensitive, but I think his career was pretty well in the dumper anyway...

Agreed

I also hopes he does not remember, although I'm sure somewhere along the line it will be mentioned to him... hoping for a speedy recovery



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User currently offlineMD88Captain From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 1330 posts, RR: 20
Reply 7, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 10602 times:

Is their a little face for irony? I guess I have to start using them.

User currently offline797 From Venezuela, joined Aug 2005, 1894 posts, RR: 27
Reply 8, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 10500 times:

Quoting MD88Captain (Reply 1):
Well there goes the career.

But not his life. He is a very lucky man to have survived to such an ugly accident.

I really hope he doesn't recover anything from that ugly moment. It will be worthless.

My best wishes.



Flying isn't dangerous. Crashing is what's dangerous!
User currently offlineQFSYD744 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 10485 times:

Wasnt he at the helm of the flight at take-off, down the wrong runway?

User currently offlineTurpentyine From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 154 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 10122 times:

I believe the news said that he was at the controls.

User currently offlineWsan581 From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 178 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 9976 times:

Quoting KarlB737 (Thread starter):
"he does not remember the accident that killed 49 people, his family said Monday."

Let's hope he never remembers that ill fated day.  Sad



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User currently offlineF9Animal From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 5027 posts, RR: 28
Reply 12, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 9905 times:

Quoting QFSYD744 (Reply 9):
Wasnt he at the helm of the flight at take-off, down the wrong runway?

Yes, but he obviously had no control of steering. Too many ifs involved. I too hope he is able to move on, but how hard it would be to live a normal life after such a tragic incident. This guy is going to need serious therapy. I could never imagine the feelings and emotions he will face for the rest of his life. I am sure he knows what happened, as I would be asking why my leg is missing, and why I would need so many surgeries.



I Am A Different Animal!!
User currently offlineFLY2LIM From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1184 posts, RR: 10
Reply 13, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 9824 times:

Quoting 797 (Reply 8):
But not his life. He is a very lucky man to have survived to such an ugly accident.

I believe this is the same person who survived being shot by his spouse a few years back. How many lives does this cat have?

FLY2LIM



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User currently offlineMCOflyer From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 8672 posts, RR: 15
Reply 14, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 9184 times:

I just pray for him everyday hoping he gets better. He can always find another job.

MCOflyer



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User currently offlineCityguy From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 78 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 9025 times:

Quoting MD88Captain (Reply 1):
Well there goes the career.

Compassion gentlemen..."if not for the grace of god, there go I.."


User currently offlineKC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12138 posts, RR: 51
Reply 16, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 8941 times:

Quoting Wsan581 (Reply 11):
Quoting KarlB737 (Thread starter):
"he does not remember the accident that killed 49 people, his family said Monday."

Let's hope he never remembers that ill fated day.

Is that on the advice of his lawyer?


User currently offlineBNE From Australia, joined Mar 2000, 3183 posts, RR: 12
Reply 17, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 8908 times:

If the copilot doesn't remember now about the crash then he is not likely to remember any time in the future.

Here is hoping for a speedy recovery.



Why fly non stop when you can connect
User currently offlineDeltaDC9 From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 2844 posts, RR: 4
Reply 18, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 7820 times:

Also revealed yesterday was the fact that all the wheels were on the ground when the plane reached the end of the runway. No rotation. The flight recorder stopped 4 seconds after that.

The judge ordered all construction halted until the families and their lawyers can visit the scene.

Also, the airline almost got cited for contempt. The judge was so pissed she was screaming and yelling in the courtroom because they are constantly late or no shows.

All drug tests came back negative. The co-pilot had very low levels of sudafed, that's it.

NTSB Preliminary Report:

http://www.realcities.com/multimedia/kentucky/pdfs/NTSB0925report.pdf



Dont take life too seriously because you will never get out of it alive - Bugs Bunny
User currently offlineFanoftristars From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 1608 posts, RR: 5
Reply 19, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 7790 times:

Quoting BNE (Reply 17):
If the copilot doesn't remember now about the crash then he is not likely to remember any time in the future.

Having experienced a tragic accident myself, that I don't remember, he probably will never remember the moment of inpact or the the seconds before.

Having said that, it's very possible he'll start remembering right up to the point of inpact. Over the years, I have remembered quite a bit about my bad day, right up to "inpact". A certain smell or the way the sun is on the horizon, and it will trigger my memory of what was happening.

I'm guessing that listening to the cockpit recording will bring a tragic rememberance of what was going on. I think his mind will always keep the worst part of this accident dark, if only to protect him from additional torment.

Remember the most important thing that separates us from animals is our ability to show compassion on one another. Best wishes to him, especially in this terrible time for him and his family.



"FLY DELTA JETS"
User currently offlineSWAOPSusafATC From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 118 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 7676 times:

I for one hope he flies again. With a prosthetic it is totally possible. I don't know if he will want to or if the FAA will/will not revoke his license but if he can keep it and he recovers and he wants to fly again I would stand behind him and would fly with him. Good luck to him. Don't get me wrong it is a horrible thing that happened but mistakes happen and unfortunately people die.

User currently offlineJAL From Canada, joined Apr 2000, 5085 posts, RR: 8
Reply 21, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 7246 times:

I wish him a speedy recovery and wish him and his all the best in the coming years!


Work Hard But Play Harder
User currently offlineUnited787 From United States of America, joined May 2005, 2703 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 6804 times:

Quoting Wsan581 (Reply 11):
Let's hope he never remembers that ill fated day.

I agree that he probably won't ever remember the events of that day, but ... I think if I were him, I would want to remember. He is going to be plagued for the rest of his life with the question of what happened, how did we make that mistake? If he could remember how they made the mistake of taking off from the wrong runway, perhaps then he could eventually come to peace that we are ALL human and we ALL make mistakes no matter how serious the consequences...we are ALL flawed. Just a thought...


User currently offlineMatheus From Brazil, joined Nov 2003, 135 posts, RR: 7
Reply 23, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 6628 times:

Quoting Charliejag1 (Reply 4):
Of course he will be dealing with it legally for some time, but I hope he doesn't ever remember it.

No, he wont have any legal issue.
As the Brazil's FAR (RBHA) the investigation propose is not find a guilty (crew), it will just reveal why it happened and how it can be avoid on the future. On theory, the company or the FAA will be made responsible for the accident for not give the proper lessons for the pilots.
The FARs are standerized on almost all first level countries (Brazil included).

Matt


User currently offlineFindigenous From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 5977 times:

Hey come on you guys, he does not have to remember it, but we KNOW that there was a departure from SOP's, no line-up check, failure to abort takeoff when it was obvious there was confusion about the runway having no lights... If I were him, I too would say I do not remember. It's just a hell of a lot easier than admitting that he too could have saved all those lives. To all of us who fly for a living, it's quite clear what went wrong. There are hardly any excuses to be made here.

[Edited 2006-09-26 18:23:34]

25 AirWillie6475 : Another media idiot who doesn't know how to write. I don't think the family included the 49 dead people in the statement. As much as I would like to
26 Flybynight : Actually the memories could come back at anytime. Trama such as that can suddenly spring forward. Or they may never come back. If he was at the contr
27 FRAspotter : The guy is barely conscious and so doped up on drugs/anisthetics from the surgeries that of course he probably can't remember anything. Maybe when he
28 Jonno : Anyone remember the hospital scene at the end of "Deliverance"? Might shed some light on the matter.
29 RichardPrice : If the investigation shows he was negligent, then you can bet your arse that he will end up with many lawsuits filed against him personally (I know N
30 Mason747 : That is really sad. I hope he is able to find another career in aviation somewhere where he'll be around the excitment
31 Fanoftristars : Please enlighten us on pilot schedules! If only the unhealthy public knew what goes on with doctor's schedules, we'd never get sick or hurt! These gu
32 JBirdAV8r : Physicians never make critical mistakes? Especially ER docs?
33 Post contains images TheSorcerer : Depends how much of the leg was amputated. One of my dad's friends lost his left leg below the knee but is ERJ 135/145 chief pilot for a major UK air
34 RichM : Poor guy, well good luck to him in the future.
35 AirWillie6475 : Wow, unless you are a regional pilot your statements can not be taken seriously.
36 We're Nuts : My doctor works four days a week and lives on the beach. I picked the wrong career.
37 David L : So he's a beach bum who's a part-time doctor.
38 JFKLGANYC : "Please enlighten us on pilot schedules! If only the unhealthy public knew what goes on with doctor's schedules, we'd never get sick or hurt! These gu
39 APFPilot1985 : and you know what they say about those, and yours is especially ripe
40 DashTrash : You can't get used to a schedule that is ever changing and conflicts with your schedule outside of work.
41 777STL : While his schedule may not have been the cause of this accident, regional pilots can have some pretty miserable schedules.
42 Lemurs : Uhh...ever hear of malpractice? Why use a profression where people die due to negligence and mistakes EVERY DAY as your proof that you should have no
43 Fanoftristars : All I'm saying is pilot's schedules don't make them any less safe than any other problems that can happen in their lives (like having a bad headache o
44 HAWK21M : Whats the medical explanation for him not recalling the event. regds MEL
45 DeltaDC9 : 1) He suffered a severe blow to the head, and there is still a possibility of permanent damage. 2) The brain does have its own internal defense mecha
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