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747 LCF Is In The Air Again  
User currently offlineRobK From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2004, 3947 posts, RR: 18
Posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 9728 times:

For those that missed it arriving from Taipei, it's just lifted off from BFI a few minutes ago for a round trip flight back there on a 1hr 50 flight.

 spin 

R

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User currently onlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5751 posts, RR: 47
Reply 1, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 9639 times:

When is it going to Everett to be painted? Does anyone know?


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User currently offlineMCIGuy From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 1936 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 9632 times:

Quoting NYC777 (Reply 1):
When is it going to Everett to be painted? Does anyone know?

Inquiring minds want to know!  bouncy 



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User currently offlineRobK From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2004, 3947 posts, RR: 18
Reply 3, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 9621 times:

Didn't Royal mention that it's due to go some time this week?

R


User currently offlineCessna057 From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 439 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 9494 times:

Quoting MCIGuy (Reply 2):
When is it going to Everett to be painted? Does anyone know?

I heard it will be in Everett mid November



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User currently offlineClickhappy From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 9625 posts, RR: 68
Reply 5, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 9411 times:
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I posted anothe thread on this, but, no paint until at least January.

User currently offlinePlanesNTrains From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 5504 posts, RR: 29
Reply 6, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 9306 times:

I saw it making the wide turn to the north over Kent while at my son's soccer practice. It was pretty impressive - from a distance, it reminds me of one of those big Antonov transports. Except for the fact that it's green.  Smile

I'm pretty much worthless at his practice. I spend most of my time watching the various planes fly over - it's actually funner than watching a bunch of defiant 7 year olds take turns rolling on the ground  Smile.

I wish I had my camera, but it was impressive nonetheless.

-Dave



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User currently onlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5751 posts, RR: 47
Reply 7, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 8984 times:

Quoting Clickhappy (Reply 5):
I posted anothe thread on this, but, no paint until at least January.

Do you know if a scheme had been chosen and if so what will it look like?



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User currently offlineUSAF336TFS From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 1445 posts, RR: 52
Reply 8, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 8850 times:

Quoting NYC777 (Reply 7):
Do you know if a scheme had been chosen and if so what will it look like?

My thoughts exactly. I'm hoping it will be the "new" 787 scheme, rather then the boring Evergreen livery.



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User currently offlineMCIGuy From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 1936 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 8752 times:

Quoting Clickhappy (Reply 5):
I posted anothe thread on this, but, no paint until at least January.

Bummer! So they're waiting until right around when it's supposed to start hauling parts? I guess that makes sense.(?)



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User currently offlineAntiuser From Italy, joined May 2004, 657 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 8721 times:

I saw it this morning, flying over Magnolia at about 9am.


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User currently offline777DadandJr From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 1516 posts, RR: 12
Reply 11, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 8721 times:

Quoting NYC777 (Reply 7):
Do you know if a scheme had been chosen and if so what will it look like?

Would there be any reason why it wouldn't be anything other than the house "Dreamliner" color scheme?

Quoting USAF336TFS (Reply 8):
rather then the boring Evergreen livery

Why on earth would it be painted in Evergreen livery?

Russ



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User currently offlineBongo From Colombia, joined Oct 2003, 1863 posts, RR: 5
Reply 12, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 8529 times:

Beware of big ketchup drops falling from the flying hot dog.


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User currently offlineGabo787 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2006, 154 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 8279 times:

Quoting Bongo (Reply 12):

LOL that was a good one, also beware of mustard  Big grin


User currently offlineLY4XELD From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 857 posts, RR: 15
Reply 14, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 7806 times:

Quoting 777DadandJr (Reply 11):
Would there be any reason why it wouldn't be anything other than the house "Dreamliner" color scheme?

I'd expect it in all white, as others said.

Quoting 777DadandJr (Reply 11):
Why on earth would it be painted in Evergreen livery?

Because Evergreen aviation is operating it!



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User currently offlineLiedetectors From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 360 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 7748 times:

The house "Dreamliner" scheme is quite heavy with the metallic flakes in the blue belly paint, and carrying that extra weight across the Atlantic and Pacific is something that Boeing will not do.


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User currently offlineAntiuser From Italy, joined May 2004, 657 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 7438 times:

Quoting Gabo787 (Reply 13):
LOL that was a good one, also beware of mustard

Oh, that's what it was, then... I thought it was just a weird yellow contrail! Big grin



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User currently offlineLemurs From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 1439 posts, RR: 4
Reply 17, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 6 hours ago) and read 7404 times:

Quoting Liedetectors (Reply 15):
The house "Dreamliner" scheme is quite heavy with the metallic flakes in the blue belly paint, and carrying that extra weight across the Atlantic and Pacific is something that Boeing will not do.

They can't miss on the opportunity to provide a flying billboard for their continued investment in local business though...it will just be something simpler, though large, I would guess.

Every place that monster flies, people will know that their city is involved in the civil aerospace industry...it is a tremendous (pun intended) bit of flying billboard. Painting it white is missing out on the chance to make sure locals and Congress members remember that "What's Good For Boeing is Good For Town X".



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User currently offlineCpw From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 40 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (7 years 11 months 6 days ago) and read 6890 times:

Quoting PlanesNTrains (Reply 6):
I wish I had my camera, but it was impressive nonetheless.

I was actually driving (well, sitting in traffic) on NB I-5 and noticed it taxiing and taking off. Talk about a lumbering beast leaving a trail of smoke. It certainly doesn't get many points for beauty.

In fact, when my wife saw it for the first time a week or so ago, she mentioned that it looked kind of like the snake that ate an entire sheep.



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User currently offlineBeech19 From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 936 posts, RR: 4
Reply 19, posted (7 years 11 months 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 6729 times:

According to internal boeing people familiar with the project (747/787 people in general) there was an email/notice/ect that went out saying that the Aircraft will be painted in the airlines colors that are operating that route:

EVA for the Pacific Route
Cargolux for the Atlantic Routes.

It makes sense and its better than just white (the most "efficient") but won't be nearly as gorgeous as the Dreamliner colors.

As a side note: A friend of mine who is a procurement agent for Boeing (in charge of getting parts from Charleston to Everett on the LCF) said that the LCF during wind tunnel tests actually came out to have equal aerodynamic efficiency of the normal 747-400, it just displaces more air.  Wink

Additionally that a "loaded" LCF with a full 130,000lb 787 "parcel" will be way under the weight of the MTOW 744. He said they are still toying with the idea of putting a "hybrid" Dreamliner/Airline color scheme on it because the weight really doesn't matter on that aircraft.

Just passing that information along. If its truely legit(the source is) time will only tell, so don't shoot the messenger.



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User currently offlineUSAF336TFS From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 1445 posts, RR: 52
Reply 20, posted (7 years 11 months 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 6690 times:

IIRC, I was under the impression that Evergreen was going to operate all three LCFs, and those would be U.S. registered (Boeing owned).
Any further information/clarification would be appreciated.



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User currently offlineLemurs From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 1439 posts, RR: 4
Reply 21, posted (7 years 11 months 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 6652 times:

Quoting Beech19 (Reply 19):
According to internal boeing people familiar with the project (747/787 people in general) there was an email/notice/ect that went out saying that the Aircraft will be painted in the airlines colors that are operating that route:

Slightly disappointing if true. Like I said, it's a tremendous PR opportunity for Boeing. It doesn't have to be gaudy, just professional and recognizable. "Dreamliner Transportation" in large stylized lettering would do the trick, or something along those lines. Silhoutte of the 787 perhaps to go with it.



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User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21511 posts, RR: 60
Reply 22, posted (7 years 11 months 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 6646 times:

Quoting Lemurs (Reply 21):
Slightly disappointing if true. Like I said, it's a tremendous PR opportunity for Boeing. It doesn't have to be gaudy, just professional and recognizable. "Dreamliner Transportation" in large stylized lettering would do the trick, or something along those lines. Silhoutte of the 787 perhaps to go with it.

I'd like to see a livery similar to the 747 with the China tail and the dreamliner body paint.

Do the same with these. Dreamliner paint on the body with some kind of title signifying the task, and then the tails in the airline liveries...



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User currently offlineBeech19 From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 936 posts, RR: 4
Reply 23, posted (7 years 11 months 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 6630 times:

Quoting USAF336TFS (Reply 20):
IIRC, I was under the impression that Evergreen was going to operate all three LCFs, and those would be U.S. registered (Boeing owned).

Evergreen subcontracted the Atlantic runs out to Cargolux... (trying to find the press release... *searching...* A-HA! Here it is.)
http://www.boeing.com/news/releases/2005/q4/051214a_nr.html

Enjoy!

Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 22):
I'd like to see a livery similar to the 747 with the China tail and the dreamliner body paint.

Most gorgeous aircraft ever right there... I agree completley.



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User currently offlineLemurs From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 1439 posts, RR: 4
Reply 24, posted (7 years 11 months 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 6626 times:

Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 22):
Do the same with these. Dreamliner paint on the body with some kind of title signifying the task, and then the tails in the airline liveries...

Here's an idea that would be really fun...instead of doing the Dreamliner paint on the whole LCF, you paint a to-scale 787 (in the Dreamliner colors of course) on the cargo bulge going back to the vertical tail, which you would paint part way up. That would make for quite a show, in my opinion.



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25 Post contains images Beech19 :
26 Gigneil : Not EVA Air. Evergreen International. N
27 Clickhappy : You should see this thing take off from BFI. It kicks up huge clouds of grass and dirt, then they have to use the runway for taxi'ing because of all t
28 Beech19 : Oops... sorry... in my mind i was thinking EIA but wrote EVA. That whole multiple evergreen (EVA Airlines owns Evergreen Aviation Technologies who di
29 PlanesNTrains : It's down at BFI today (28th) - I wonder when it'll be heading out again? I ran down by there during lunch today and got to look at it for a few minu
30 RentonView : I was stuck in traffic going north on I-5 this morning, and I almost crapped my pants when I saw the LCF taxiing for takeoff. I had a perfect view of
31 Post contains images Lemurs : Around what time? I saw it being pushed out of the hangar around 7:30...I have great views of BFI at various parts of the day, except at work. Stupid
32 Beech19 : My father flew on FISTA (NKC-135A: 55-3120) and FISTA II(KNC-135E: 55-3135). FISTA was known as "Steam Jet One" because of its water injected J57's.
33 RentonView : It was about 9:20... I had to go into Seattle for a meeting, so it wasn't my usual commute. I have views of RNT from my bedroom, but the most excitin
34 Lemurs : I'd still take it over not having a view at all. I love Seattle just because you never know what kind of weird random ship is going to pass right ove
35 Duncank : The LCF is going to PAE on October 4th for painting.
36 Post contains links and images American777 : Ha ha ha ha ha! I sure do agree with your wife. It does look very similar to it (LCF). Here are some pics of the LCF at PAE recently. http://www.flic
37 Bluewhale18210 : Thank you. I have the honor of working on this particular aircraft many times, and each time it comes into the gate it took my breath away. Also the
38 Post contains links and images Iwok : Thanks for posting the pictures! That bird is definately not the prettiest out there, but I have to say her rear view is pretty impressive. iwok
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