Longhornmaniac From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 3516 posts, RR: 42
Reply 4, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 4233 times:
Quoting Cessna057 (Thread starter): I asked this in USAviation and did not get the response I was looking for. I also did a search on old forums and came up with nothing. So here it goes.
If CO has a hub/focus city in GUM, why don't they start a direct there from EWR or even IAH? It would make sense so that travelers could get to many different cities in Asia through CO.
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The best reason I can think of is the lack of a market for a non-stop (just a friendly reminder, as you'll more often than not get called on it, a non-stop flight is just that, a non-stop flight, a direct flight, on the otherhand, can stop in places, just not change planes, so CO actually does have direct flights from IAH-GUM via NRT and HNL). I would imagine that the market from the States nonstop to Guam is fairly small, and it's not really any major inconvenience to stop over in HNL.
Bottom line, the market from anywhere in the US (but especially the far northeast, i.e. the only places where it would be logical to connect in EWR vs. IAH) to GUM or the cities it serves is not worth the use of widebody equipment (not to mention it's probably too long, at 7950 miles) to get them there nonstop, when more than likely you can do it in two (IAH, HNL/NRT) or maybe three if you're connecting to somewhere beyond GUM. EWR also has a nonstop to NRT, so you can connect just through NRT if you're going to GUM, or GUM as well if your going someplace that Micronesia flys.
COSPN From Northern Mariana Islands, joined Oct 2001, 1904 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 4184 times:
LAX-GUM would probably be the route, but GUM runway is a bit short now (construction is underway) LAX is a major gateway for Military and Other pax bound for Guam and Micronesia, and MNL from all over the US, many use other carriers to get to LAX.. GUM-HNL is the main feed for HNL-LAX, CO is the only non-stop service via HNL to GUM ..NW and CO have flights via Japan, but many Military and Guam PAX do not have passports and the CO flights work well for them..many pax interline connect in HNL and NRT bound for GUM
BAW716 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 2045 posts, RR: 26
Reply 10, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 3937 times:
a) not enough traffic to justify a 777-200ER, which is the only aircraft that CO has that can operate it and
b) the route planning for EWR-GUM would be a nightmare; 207 min ETOPS is an absolute requirement, I think, to make that route work.
David L. Lamb, fmr Area Mgr Alitalia SFO 1998-2002, fmr Regional Analyst SFO-UAL 1992-1998