MD 11 From Germany, joined Sep 1999, 196 posts, RR: 1 Posted (15 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 1969 times:
since a few months, Nortwest flies to Frankfurt with a DC10. Great!
Anybody knows, if the Detroit-Frankfurt-flight is well booked?
I think it is not easy to make money with this flight.(Who wants to fly to Detroit???), but why not.
I do not hope NWA will pull out of Germany again.
Udo From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (15 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 1892 times:
I just flew the route and I can tell you on both flights the DC-10 was full full full. Not a single seat empty.
And you know what? Detroit is one of NWA's megahubs (beside Minneapolis/St.Paul), offering connections throughout all the US and Canada.
And DTW was quite nice to transfer.
They make money, and they will remain in FRA. And flying the DC-10 is still a pleasure!!!
MD 11 From Germany, joined Sep 1999, 196 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (15 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 1876 times:
CNS: I think, the NWA flight is so fascinating because they still fly DC10! This plane was getting a not often seen guest in Franfurt!
Hopefully, NWA will start some further flighs to Germany, any informations about it?
Udo From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (15 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 1868 times:
What a bull. The DC-10 is still a safe aircraft, no matter how old it is.
Which kind of planes have crashed on long haul services over the last years?
- Swissair's MD-11: eight years old
- Egypt Air B763: ten years old
and many more "young aircraft"
My DC-10s were 27 and 19 (DC-10-30) and again 27 (DC-10-40) years old. And you know what? No delay, high comfort, absolute safety. Stop bashing the flying legend, it doesn not deserve it!
Right, NWA attracts many passengers for flying the DC-10. Including me!
NWA763 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (15 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 1868 times:
I am so tired of people saying how UNsafe DC-10's are. Lets face it. If they were not safe, they would not fly. Besides that, NWA has one of the best saftey records with the DC-10. Hmm, lets see, when was the last crash of a Nortwest DC-10?
Stretch 8 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 2568 posts, RR: 15
Reply 7, posted (15 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 1836 times:
Okay, the D10 is not the problem, it's Northwest and that awful hub at Detroit Metro. I grew up in Detroit, and can fondly remember when DTW was a fairly sleepy place. I can recall my first 747 trip from DTW to MIA on Delta 12/70. Since Republic, and then NW, hubbed Metro, it has become worse every year.
It's not all NW's fault; the Wayne county airport commission is inept and corrupt - a double whammy. Things can only get better. At least Detroiters can take the Lufthansa A340 to FRA every night.
Maggs swings, it's a drive deep to left! The Tigers are going to the World Series!!!
Star321 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (15 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 1817 times:
According to an 1995 issue of the Frankfurt Airport paper "Treffpunkt Airport", NW has been operating flights to FRA since 1984. I'm not sure wether they used DC10s all the time but I can remember seeing them for at least 6 years.
A32 From United States of America, joined Aug 1999, 163 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (15 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 1791 times:
MD11 asked why anyone would fly to DTW. Well there are many reasons but let me give you just three for now
Daimler-Chrysler, Ford, General Motors.
Those who have flown on this route will tell you that it is constantly full. In Business Class I particularly appreciated the beer served out of a keg placed on a cart and rolled down the aisle. Frosted mugs too...
And for the DC-10 lovers... you would have appreciated the speed as we overtook an AA 777 at cruise altitude.
Fjnovak1 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 615 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (15 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 1774 times:
To whomever inquired, the DTW-FRA flight was started at least 10 years ago, but was operated with a 747-200 until about three or four years ago when they switched it to a DC-10. The flight, NW52/53 originates and terminates at SFO. Fight 52 uses a 757 for the the SFO-DTW leg, and flight 53 uses an Airbus A320 for the DTW-SFO leg.
NWA Man From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 1828 posts, RR: 11
Reply 13, posted (15 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 1737 times:
Again, to reemphasize, Detroit Metro opens a new terminal for Northwest and its partners in July of 2001. So, only nine more months to deal with the current terminal before we get to enjoy the open spaces, walkways, and people movers of the new Midfield Terminal.
A330_DTW From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 371 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (15 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 1718 times:
Actually, Midfield Terminal opens in December of 2001, not July. The baggage system will be functional by the Summer of 2001. (Don't want any delays like DIA's White Elephant!)
As for the Dc10, it's a great airplane. Quite a few airlines still fly them, AA and UA among them. They only use them for domestic flights, but ORD-HNL flown by UA and AA is by far a longer than flight than DTW-FRA!
Nwa747-400 From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 1337 posts, RR: 4
Reply 15, posted (15 years 7 months 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 1689 times:
The DTW-FRA route has been around for a while. The flight is almost always full because of all the NW connecting traffic in DTW. if you are coming from the midwest DTW is actually not a bad stop on the way to Europe.