RoseFlyer From United States, joined Feb 2004, 5639 posts, RR: 27 Posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 6747 times:
Congratulations on 26 years from the 757. The plane today celebrates its 25th year in the sky. Its first flight was September 26th 1981 and entered service exactly one year later with United Airlines. The 767 which was developed alongside the 757 was the first to fly. The two were launched in 1978.
The 767 was conceived as a replacement for Boeing's commercial first jet. The 707 pioneered the jet age, but it needed replacement after over 20 years in service. The 767 had an increased range and slight increase in capacity. It was initially offered as a lower capacity 767-100 and the 767-200. The 767-200 was the only one developed as first as it was better received by the airlines. The 767 offered roughly 20% increase in effeciency over the airplane it replaced. It pioneered many new technologies and proved to be successful. It was a smaller generation of widebodies compared to the larger trijets and the 747. However it soon became the most common aircraft used on the busy Transatlantic sector and was especially popular with passengers since it features a very comfortable seven abreast layout (although on occasions it has been configured at 8 abreast), which minimizes middle seats. The biggest development of the plane was its use of ETOPS. Previously twin jets had been restricted on overwater operations, but the 767 changed that.
The 767 has had a long successful lifespan. The 767-300 was announced during the testing phase of the 767-200. The 767-300ER, which became the best selling type first flew in 1986 and became even more popular. The 767-300ER is still in production today. Late in the production cycle came the 767-400ER for the specific needs of Delta and Continental.
The 787 is currently being developed as a replacement. But the 767 has enjoyed years of successful service and is one of the safest jets ever to fly. Congratulations to all of the engineers that designed such a successful plane, and further contratulations to everyone who has worked on operating them safely.
Myt332 From United Kingdom (England), joined Sep 2003, 8749 posts, RR: 91 Reply 1, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 6721 times:
It's an inanimate object but happy birthday 767, what did you get? How does it feel to be 26?
Captaink From Mexico, joined May 2001, 4370 posts, RR: 15 Reply 3, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 6638 times:
I never really put much thought into how old the 767s are. BUt wow.. they are old. Good see that it is still in production and flying elagantly with numerous carriers
KrisYYZ From Canada, joined Nov 2004, 1125 posts, RR: 0 Reply 7, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 6572 times:
It will be a long time before any twin engine aircraft can even come close to the reputation of the 767, for it has forever changed transatlantic travel.
First one was delivered to United Airlines in August 1982 at the United Airlines maintenance base in San Francisco. I first flew on one in November 1982, ORD-SFO. Remember the flight to this day, and that "new plane smell" LOL.
All of UA's 767-200s have now left the fleet, sadly.
KSUpilot From United States, joined Jul 2006, 656 posts, RR: 6 Reply 12, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 6226 times:
I believe I've flown on a 767 once when I was a kid. I just can't remember where to, but it had to be CO. All I can remember was that we were flying domestic and I was in the center seat of the center group of seats. So that would have to make it a 767-200. (I don't there are many -400s on domestic routes)
RoseFlyer From United States, joined Feb 2004, 5639 posts, RR: 27 Reply 13, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 6088 times:
Quoting KSUpilot (Reply 12): I believe I've flown on a 767 once when I was a kid. I just can't remember where to, but it had to be CO. All I can remember was that we were flying domestic and I was in the center seat of the center group of seats. So that would have to make it a 767-200. (I don't there are many -400s on domestic routes)
Continental has pretty much the newest 767 fleet. The plane was a late entry in to their fleet. They first ordered them in 1998 if I remember correctly, so if you were just a kid, you might have flown some other airline. Delta has flown 767s domestically for many years. The have a huge 767 fleet.
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PM From Japan, joined Feb 2005, 5200 posts, RR: 60 Reply 14, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 6051 times:
20.03.89 LGW CLT Piedmont PI1161 767-200ER GE N650US
17.04.89 CLT LGW Piedmont PI1160 767-200ER GE N646US
12.02.95 ATL MIA Delta DL373 767-300 GE N139DL
08.08.95 KIX AKL Air New Zealand NZ032 767-300ER GE ZK-NCH
26.03.97 BOS CLT USAir US817 767-200ER GE N654US
01.08.97 ATL ZRH Delta DL66 767-300ER PW N183DN
20.12.98 MUC ATL Delta DL131 767-300ER PW N188DN
02.08.99 ZRH ATL Delta DL67 767-300ER PW N175DN
04.12.00 MEL SYD Ansett AN18 767-200 GE VH-RMG
01.02.02 DAR AMS KLM KL571 767-300ER GE PH-BZE
26.02.02 AMS DAR KLM KL571 767-300ER GE PH-BZM
28.09.03 DAR LHR British Airways BA046 767-300ER RR G-BNWV
06.10.03 LHR DAR British Airways BA047 767-300ER RR G-BNWN
04.03.05 NBO BOM Kenya Airways KQ200 767-300ER GE 5Y-KQW
10.03.05 BOM NBO Kenya Airways KQ201 767-300ER GE 5Y-KQV
I just checked. Fifteen 767 flights in 17 years. It has never been my favourite plane from the outside (it's bland, anonymous) but I've always enjoyed my flights on 767s (except for a very disappointing experience in KLM Business Class) and Munich-Atlanta on Delta (also in C) was one of my best flights ever.
With all due respect to the even older A300, it was really the 767 that brought in the age of long-haul flights on twins. Quite a classic, I'd say.
Steeler83 From United States, joined Feb 2006, 7416 posts, RR: 20 Reply 16, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 6022 times:
Quoting PM (Reply 14): With all due respect to the even older A300, it was really the 767 that brought in the age of long-haul flights on twins. Quite a classic, I'd say.
I take it the A300, first flown in 1972, was not as popular as the 767 has become? Was that bird more successful as a freighter? I see more A300s used by cargo airlines, i.e: UPS. AA has some pax A300s tho...
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PM From Japan, joined Feb 2005, 5200 posts, RR: 60 Reply 17, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 6010 times:
Quoting Steeler83 (Reply 16): I take it the A300, first flown in 1972, was not as popular as the 767 has become?
They weren't really designed to do the same job. The original A300 was a short to medium-range airliner. The 767, from the start, was designed to include long-range models and that is where it has really succeeded. Airbus attempted to catch up with the A310 and the A300-600 but they were never really in the same league. On the other hand, outside the USA, the A300 was the more popular short-haul people mover.
Overall, the 767 has outsold the combined A300/A310 total but not by a huge amount. Honours are pretty evem I'd say. Especially considering that the A300 was Airbus's first model and they had to create a market presence that Boeing already had.
Steeler83 From United States, joined Feb 2006, 7416 posts, RR: 20 Reply 18, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 5985 times:
Quoting PM (Reply 17): They weren't really designed to do the same job. The original A300 was a short to medium-range airliner.
Not to mention, high-density short-to-medium range routes. Wasn't the plane designed to carry 220-260 pax some 2,000 miles or so?
Quoting PM (Reply 17): The 767, from the start, was designed to include long-range models and that is where it has really succeeded. Airbus attempted to catch up with the A310 and the A300-600 but they were never really in the same league.
Yeah, I never even heard of the A310 program until I read about it in an aviation book I received when I was about 10 or 11.
Quoting PM (Reply 17): Overall, the 767 has outsold the combined A300/A310 total but not by a huge amount. Honours are pretty evem I'd say. Especially considering that the A300 was Airbus's first model and they had to create a market presence that Boeing already had.
So I take it Airbus came about in the late 1960s (at least in the commercial aviation sector) with the launch of their A300 program - ballpark year 1968 or so? Boeing had already become well-established at that point with their successful 707 and 727 programs. The 737 was just getting started after first delivery to Lufthansa, and the 747 was about to have its first flight, before delivery to PanAm in 1970 I believe.
The way it appears, Airbus really hit the jackpot with the A320 program in the 1980s, while its widebodies didn't sell as well as the Boeing widebodies. Am I logical in this assumption, or is this a bunch of rubbish?
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AC773 From Canada, joined Nov 2005, 1730 posts, RR: 8 Reply 19, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 5947 times:
Happy Birthday 767! Just last week I unearthed a few pictures I'd taken on the flight deck of a CP 763 in the early 90's. Mind you, this was back in the day when you could actually visit the cockpit inflight.
I must say, I never found the 767 all that spectacular until I looked back on the impact it had during the past 25 years. Along with the 757, it was nothing short of revolutionary. It's had a good history, and will have a good future. Rest assured, this bird will continue to serve well into the 21st century.
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MCOflyer From United States, joined Jun 2006, 8113 posts, RR: 16 Reply 20, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 5930 times:
I rode on TW 762ER to MCO via STL from PIT. It was a good flight. I believe i've been on US 762ER from MCO-PHL. What a wonderful plane. Happy Birthday 767. Whats the oldest one flying?
Malaysia From United States, joined Nov 1999, 2882 posts, RR: 1 Reply 21, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 5902 times:
The 767-400ER is my second favorite plane to the L-1011. hence it literally replaced the Tristars with Delta.
I flew First class on 767-432ERs several times, to places such as ATL, LAS,
LAX, HNL etc.
I have flown on the following 767s in the past years, I may be on a JL 767-300
next week depending if I have to be bumped and end up going home via NRT.
BR 767-200, -300
DL 767-200, -300, 300ER, -400ER
TW 767-200ER, -300ER
OZ 767-300
AA 767-200
I almost lost my mind forgetting the AA one, I may have missed
some other 767s.
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KSUpilot From United States, joined Jul 2006, 656 posts, RR: 6 Reply 22, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 5873 times:
Quoting RoseFlyer (Reply 13): Continental has pretty much the newest 767 fleet. The plane was a late entry in to their fleet. They first ordered them in 1998 if I remember correctly, so if you were just a kid, you might have flown some other airline. Delta has flown 767s domestically for many years. The have a huge 767 fleet.
In '98 I was 10, so I guess it could be possible. I'm only 18, so I guess you could say I'm still a kid. I'm pretty sure it was CO, as the only time I flew Delta was to Florida (Delta Shuttle)
PM From Japan, joined Feb 2005, 5200 posts, RR: 60 Reply 24, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 5793 times:
Quoting Steeler83 (Reply 18): So I take it Airbus came about in the late 1960s (at least in the commercial aviation sector) with the launch of their A300 program - ballpark year 1968 or so?
The origins of Airbus (and the A300) certainly go back to the '60s but the plane first flew in 1972 and wasn't really in service much before the middle of the '70s. In fact it sold only very slowly at first.
Quoting Steeler83 (Reply 18): The way it appears, Airbus really hit the jackpot with the A320 program in the 1980s, while its widebodies didn't sell as well as the Boeing widebodies. Am I logical in this assumption, or is this a bunch of rubbish?
There's a lot of truth in that though neither the A300 nor the A330 can be considered "failures". In fact, along the A310/A300/767/A330/777 continuum, it's a little hard to know which models to compare with which to find 'winners' and 'losers'.
PIA777 From United States, joined Dec 2003, 1719 posts, RR: 9 Reply 25, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 5750 times:
I remember when the project was launched, My friend gave
me a poster of the planes which he received from his uncle who
worked for Boeing at the time.
PIA777
GO CUBS!!
26 HAWK21M: Def a good track record.Congrats. regds MEL
27 American 767: Interesting topic! The Boeing 767 may not be the first widebody twinjet, first was the Airbus A300, but it was the first US built widebody twinjet and
28 JetMech: Congratulations and Happy Birthday to the 767 ! The best 767 combination IMHO is QANTAS's VH-ZX- series (The Falcons), which are 763 airframes powered
29 767ER: Just look at my user name! Have flown on: Air New Zealand: 762 & 763 Qantas: ditto American Airlines: 763 British Airwaya: 763 Airtours: 763
30 FlyCaledonian: Not just a 767, but a Rolls-Royce powered one at that! Add the classic livery and it's a mighty bird.
31 Malmoaviation: I still remember, that February day '98, when I made my first 767 flight. It was in Business with SK, from ORD to ARN. Back in those days it was still
32 Cessnapimp: An interesting question MCOflyer. The oldest one flying at AC is C-GAUN Fin# 604. We keep saying year after year that she will be retired, but she's
33 Steeler83: Oh, no... I wasn't implying that the A300/A310 and other Airbus Widebodies were failures... They did sell widebody aircraft and well, but not as well
34 Cessnapimp: The 330's we have will remain for a while in the fleet, but are already slated for replacement by the 777's and 787's that are on order, with no new
35 Steeler83: Oh, then I don't know why I thought they were taking more A330 aircraft...
36 777STL: Actually, according to airfleets and the photo database, AC has a 762 older than the "Gimli Glider", C-FVNM. C-FVNM was line number 18 and first flew
37 Cessnapimp: Wow! I had no idea that FVNM was actually older than GAUN! Very interesting. FVNM was one of the planes AC brought back from the dead in 2003 after n
38 AirEMS: Happy Birthday 767 Although I have not flown on the 767 yet... I hope too soon. I must say that I have always admired Delta Employees for their 767 th
39 Freedom747: What a gem!! But even more so, is realizing the rich history that so many employees' has experienced working these wide-bodied jewels. The tradition i
40 Richardw: The Ansett special 3 pilot B767 needs a mention. http://www.airliners.net/open.file?i...7961&next_id=0502235&tbl=AIRLINERS
41 DTW757: I have flown the 767-300 and 767-400 but I still need to take a 767-200 flight. Which airlines are still operating the 200 here in the US and on what
43 Da man: AA does some transcons from JFK to LAX with the 200
44 777STL: CO, US, and AA. AA's are strictly transcons, east coast to west coast. US's and CO's run international routes as well. AA's are some of the oldest, C
45 Atnight: Congrats to the B767 on its 25 years!! I fly the B767 at least 4 times a year, so I like them very much (although to be honest, I prefer the A330, how
46 Beech19: Yeah... Happy Birthday! You're being replaced! lol j/k One of my favorite aircraft... the first time i saw a 767-400 it was a Delta @ Detroit with it
47 JAAlbert: I too have always loved the 767 and try to get one every time I fly. Some of my favorite moments re: 767: Hawaiian Airlines 2004: Flew Hawaiian's new
48 DavestanKSAN: Happy Birthday 767! I just had my first flight on her this month. HA SAN-HNL on a 763. Beautiful A/C. Here's to many more safe and happy flights Dave
49 Steeler83: Going back to the US Airways 767, I cannot get over how frigging CLOSE I was to seeing the interior of one of those birds at PIT... I was about 9 or 1
50 MD80Nut: The 767 remains one of my favorites. The 2-3-2 layout is my favorite and despite being the narrowest wide body jet it feels spacious and comfortable.
51 Bh: Congrats to Boeing and the whole 767 team, a very fine product.I too have to find a 767-200 flight to complete my list.
52 WorldTraveler: I'm sure those Delta employees that started that fund drive to buy The Spirit of Delta never would have imagined that DL would eventually operate the
53 Beech19: Who would have thunk it... Kudos to them.
54 Steeler83: You don't recall the exact date, do ya?
55 WorldTraveler: When Delta finds a plane it likes, it buys them by the dozens. DL operated about 1/3 of all the L1011s ever built and with the AA/TW 757 purchase wil
56 Dl_mech: Happy Birthday "Pac Man"! That is what the early mechanics at TWA called it (in reference to the CRT screens in the cockpit).
57 777STL: Fantastic. DL runs routes with shoddy, older 767s that AA runs newer 777s on.
58 757dc10fltmech: Registered to Boeing as N767BA. Was used for multiple missile development programs as AST (Airborne Surveillance Testbed) View Large View MediumPhoto
59 WorldTraveler: Since some of DLs 764s are newer than AA's 777s and are considerably more efficient, the question is why AA didn't have the foresight to buy 764s inst
60 777STL: The 764 doesn't have the range or the lift the 772ER has. AA's T7 fleet is wholly of the -ER variety. A 764 certainly couldn't do ORD-DEL or ORD-Shan
61 WorldTraveler: I'm sorry that 777STL wants to turn this into an AA vs DL thread but we'll set the record straight now that he's opened it. It is when you make statem
62 Cricket: Congrats to Boeing on building a great aircraft. While DL is the larest single operator of the type, who is/are/were the largest non-US operator of th
63 N31029: HAPPY BIRTHDAY, B767! While you may be a "modest maiden" from the outside, you are a solid, comfortable, and inviting "lady of the skies" on the insid
64 WorldTraveler: Cricket, Boeing and Airbus both have order and delivery info on their website. http://active.boeing.com/commercial/orders/index.cfm looks like All Nip
65 777STL: I really meant that in terms of the 763 but you chose to argue in terms of the 764, so I went with it, either way, the 777 is still a superior aircra
66 JetMech: Wow, that is magic JAAlbert ! If only you had a photo.
68 DeltaJet757: LONG LIVE THE 767!!!! -DeltaJet757
69 DL787932ER: Honestly, what a stupid post on a thread that is rightfully celebrating an airliner that has done as much as the 767 has done. A good friend of mine
71 Multimark: I'm glad someone brought up the Gimli Glider, probably the most famous 767? There's some great vintage footage on the CBC website (non-commercial site
72 AirCanada014: Happy Birthday to all operators of B767s.. Its nice to see AC still operate some 200s along with the 300ERs.. If AC kept all of their 200s along with
73 WorldTraveler: Who care about LD3s? Most cargo is not interlined so if a carrier can carry cargo all the way through on a 767, smaller containers are just fine. And
74 DeltaJet757: I agree. FYI DL's 767's aren't shoddy. Some not all may be old and worn but not shoddy. -DeltaJet757
75 RoseFlyer: I don't want to get in an argument, but I think you are going a little too far with regards to the 767. First off, having a narrow fuselage does make
76 WorldTraveler: which is why I wrote TRIP costs. the 767 is ideal to develop new routes where flooding the market with seats is not going to ensure success. DL has u
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