NYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5163 posts, RR: 49 Reply 4, posted (6 years 8 months 21 hours ago) and read 9536 times:
With an announcement of expanding Boeing's India Managmeent Team, I wouldn't be surprised if some of these UFO are for Indian carriers, even some of the 787 UFOs. 9W has been interested in the 787 and they may have pulled the trigger.
Zvezda From Lithuania, joined Aug 2004, 10511 posts, RR: 65 Reply 8, posted (6 years 8 months 21 hours ago) and read 9410 times:
At the beginning of the year, I didn't think there was much chance that Boeing would repeat 1000 sales in 2007. Now it's looking like there's a chance. Wow. This is definitely not sustainable.
Starrion From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1081 posts, RR: 2 Reply 9, posted (6 years 8 months 21 hours ago) and read 9356 times:
My question is what airlines Airbus will find to sign 700 orders in Dec/Jan to pull another New Year's Surprise.
I can't believe the number of 737's going out the door, but the real interest is in the widebody competitions going on. I really want to see at least one order of significant size for the 748i.
SEAdomer787 From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 114 posts, RR: 1 Reply 11, posted (6 years 8 months 21 hours ago) and read 9356 times:
I would lean toward a smaller carrier, and agree 9W sounds like a good option. I think when AA finally orders the 787, they're going to mean business, and not make a piddly little order for 8 planes. Might as well fill up as many "early" delivery slots as possible rather than chopping up the order and risk losing them. I think the same will go for UA or DL.
DAL767400ER From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 5721 posts, RR: 50 Reply 12, posted (6 years 8 months 21 hours ago) and read 9282 times:
Quoting Zvezda (Reply 8): At the beginning of the year, I didn't think there was much chance that Boeing would repeat 1000 sales in 2007. Now it's looking like there's a chance. Wow. This is definitely not sustainable.
Certainly possible, though IMHO I expect "only" around 900 orders for the year, of which 600+ will be 737s. I mean, already 503 orders for the 737 alone, wow. Now it's time to wait for the monthly update to see which exact types all these UFOs are, then it might be easier to tell for who they are.
Quoting SEAdomer787 (Reply 11): I think when AA finally orders the 787, they're going to mean business,
I agree... think about how huge AA's fleet is and how much they will be "replacing". Most legacy carriers orders are going to be pretty hefty given the size of the airlines.
NYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5163 posts, RR: 49 Reply 16, posted (6 years 8 months 20 hours ago) and read 9016 times:
I think 5 of the 787 UFOs are for ILFC. Another 11 are for VN (exercising options). And the new batch of 8 I think are for 9W. I hope all will be revealed before year end as to who are the UFOs.
N328KF From United States of America, joined May 2004, 6222 posts, RR: 3 Reply 21, posted (6 years 8 months 19 hours ago) and read 8691 times:
Quoting Glom (Reply 19): The big question is when will they get to one-triple-oh triple-sevens. Only 150 to go.
That's amazing...if they only need 150 777 airframes to reach 1,000...then it surely can't be that much harder to reach 1,050. That's how many 757s were produced. There have been 969 orders for the 767. The 747 has sold 1,441 (through August) but the 777 has sold at a much faster pace.
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NYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5163 posts, RR: 49 Reply 22, posted (6 years 8 months 19 hours ago) and read 8680 times:
The 777 line is along term investment. I think they'll get 150 more in orders but it won't be this year. Perhaps in three to four years time they'll have it.
Katekebo From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 672 posts, RR: 6 Reply 23, posted (6 years 8 months 19 hours ago) and read 8649 times:
It's good to see that B787 sales have not slowed down in spite of the A350XWB announcement. Several months have passed since Farnborough, and except for the SIA "endorsment", there has been very little public interest from other airlines in the "new-all-new" A350, while the B787 continues to pick up a steady flow of orders. I think this is partially because airlines perceive the B787 as a more advanced airplane with bigger potential, as well as because Airbus credibility to deliver a completely new product in a flawless manner (meeting schedule commitments) has been compromized with A380.
Quoting Glom (Reply 19): Where are the freighter sales? After the mysterious A332F launch order, the 777F is looking lacking.
I think this is because the B777F is very expensive, and has strong competition from converted B744, as well as the B748F. Both represent a hell of good value. In case of a converted B744 you get more freight capacity for significantly less money (at the expense of fuel economy, but the initial price differential pays for many gallons of jet fuel). On the other hand, the B748F is not that much more expensive, has more capacity AND better fuel economy.
NYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5163 posts, RR: 49 Reply 24, posted (6 years 8 months 19 hours ago) and read 8637 times:
777F sales may soar if Boeing offer's it as the new USAF tanker. you're talking about over 500 tankers that need replacing that a KC-777 could fill. That would be an enormous boost that that line and keep it going for a very, very long time (20 year perhaps).
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25 AirMailer: Zvezda, Don't forget that DL could easily place 100 orders next year (especially if the price of fuel keeps going down)... and if EK waits 'till next
26 Trevd: Think we'll see a few more 747-8F's added to that UFO category next week.
27 Zvezda: I would say if not when. There is a good chance the B777 could reach 1000 orders, but it's not a certainty. The A350 and B787 both make the B777 a lo
28 Ikramerica: They wouldn't sign for all 100 before Dec 31 no matter when and who they chose.
29 EbbUK: You sure Boeing aren't giving these planes away? It's an astonishing year of sales for them. Though I have a hunch that a third of those 787 orders as
30 TrevD: That's a remarkable statement. Which operators do you think are virtual? I don't see Boeing doing the same thing ala, Kingfisher, Indigo, etc...
31 NYC777: Hardly an unsurprising comment coming from an Airbus supporter like you. What tired of hearing how many times the A380 is being delayed that you have
32 STT757: The 777-300ER will (IMO) be the aircraft to get the 777 line past 1,000 airframes, from 2007 on it will be the best selling 777. It's the perfect sol
33 NYC777: A little more info on the 8 787s today... 2 of them are ordered by an exisiting 787 customer and 6 are ordered by a new customer. All 8 are not going
34 Ghost77: Some of those UFO's B787 could be 02 additional AM frames via ILFC. g77 APM
35 Klkla: In all fairness I would think that customers leaning towards this plane (and I'm sure there are many loyal Airbus customers interested) are waiting t
36 EbbUK: I never tire of hearing of that, I just get more and more anxious. The only reason I say this is the volatility in the market, not only internal but
38 NYC777: Fair enough, it's your opinion and I respect it.
39 Beech19: Spoken like a true Boeing basher. Probably... i still have beleive the 777F will get its share. Looking at these facts on range alone(found on manufa
40 NYC777: Maybe but I think ILFC bought more last week and some of those probably went to AM. It could LOT, they hold 2 options. The other 6 could be Virgin Bl
41 Beech19: AS ordered them... Doh! j/k Sorry... still living in a dream. SEA to BOS nonstop in a 738 isn't as much fun as it sounds...
43 Andahuailas: Didn't Aeroflot biggest shareholder sign a deal for 787s ? most probably these are the ones
44 STT757: CO has been known to order a small number of aircraft initially but over time add more and more in small bites, CO has 20 firm and 10 options for 787
45 AirMailer: Yes BOS-SEA is a scream on an A320, it usually comes immediately following the announcement from the pilot that they have to make an unscheduled tech
46 Lumberton: Now this is great sarcasm! Definitely one of the better jabs I've ever seen here. Thanks.
47 Beech19: Don't get me wrong... i love 737's... just 2650 miles is a LONG flight in them. Yeah all those AS A320's... NOT! OH... with all due respect to the A3
48 2wingtips: With respect to this week's orders, it gives the 787 program 2 milestones: 300 firm orders for the "too small" 788 400 firm orders for the whole progr
50 Brendows: Yes, I believe we will see such a number of orders, and some more, even before EIS
51 TPASXM787: Do you work for Airbus? I hope so with the lovefest you have with them However, I could point the same finger at the Boeing fan club I would have to
54 2wingtips: I think there is every chance that there will be 500 firm orders for the 787 by the end of this year. I wonder how many firm orders the 350XYZ will ha
55 Zvezda: Another 100 in 3 months? With a 6 year backlog? That would be remarkable.
56 TPASXM787: i think Boeing will be faced with an interesting decision with production lines with the 787. Keep one and keep demand high? Or make another one and
57 AirFrnt: Congrads to the 787. Anyone remember how much Boeing dithered on launching this aircraft?
58 Zvezda: I remember Boeing waiting for a launch customer.
59 Jacobin777: Keep in mind, there are the pending 20 SQ orders which should be booked by the end of this year.....with potential EK and AA orders (AA is completely
60 2wingtips: SQ will be booked before the end of the year.
61 N328KF: The Seattle Post-Intelligencer sheds a little light: http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/business/286886_boeing28ww.html
62 Congaboy: Looks like its Avianca: From ATW Online... "It is thought that the latest additions may be an order from Avianca, which wants to replace its MD-83 and
63 NYC777: At least 6 must be for Av. The other two are for another customer.
64 AMSSFO: Last weeks UFO order of 16 787 is more likely Avianca's. That order apparently can be broken up in 5 (leasing company?) and 11. 11 is the expected si
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