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Avior Airlines To Begin Miami-Barcelona (VE)  
User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32578 posts, RR: 72
Posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 10727 times:

Avior Airlines will launch the only non-stop service between North America and Barcelona, Venezuela this winter effective 28 January 2007. Avior applied today with US DOT to provide scheduled service between Miami and Barcelona, Venezuela. However, since Avior already has permission to provide scheduled charter flights between Miami and Venzuela, they can already sell tickets on the route as a scheduled charter. Once they get DOT approval, the tickets can then be sold as a regular scheduled flight. Daily service will operate with a 737-200 in 12C/99J configuration.

Schedule:

3B 1220 BLA 1000-1245 MIA
3B 1221 MIA 1500-1945 BLA

No word on what other routes Avior might have planned from Miami. They have requested authority to fly any route from Miami to Venezuela except Maracaibo.

Barcelona is the fourth Venezuelan city with daily flights to Miami, joning Caracas, Maracaibo, and Valencia.

Interesting that right after Venezuela got Cat.I status, all we heard about was "Aeropostal expanding this" and "Conviasa adding that" and "Santa Barbara doing this", and here comes little known Avior Airlines as the first Venezuelan airline to truly take advantage of Venezuela's Category I status.

[Edited 2006-09-29 09:00:44]


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User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32578 posts, RR: 72
Reply 1, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 10714 times:

Link to US DOT application, for those who like reading through them:

http://dms.dot.gov/search/document.c...m?documentid=415962&docketid=25982



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User currently offlineLuisde8cd From Pitcairn Islands, joined Aug 2004, 2570 posts, RR: 31
Reply 2, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 10665 times:

Thanks for the news Mark. Apparentely the 732s comply with Stage III noise requirements although last week I saw one of their 732s without Hush Kits and making a lot of noise after takeoff from CCS. Avior had announced FLL as a "new" destination back in Jan 06, I wonder why they finally picked MIA.

Avior is already selling tickets on its website. A roundtrip ticket Dec 17 - Jan 7 sells for USD 540 which isn't too expensive considering it's high season.

Extremely good news for Venezuelan aviation, this will be the first YV-registered airliner to land in US soil since Avensa/Servivensa went bankrupt.

Quoting MAH4546 (Thread starter):
Interesting that right after Venezuela got Cat.I status, all we heard about was "Aeropostal expanding this" and "Conviasa adding that" and "Santa Barbara doing this", and here comes little known Avior Airlines as the first Venezuelan airline to truly take advantage of Venezuela's Category I status.

Indeed, I can't explain what is holding both VH and S3 back. We thought Primaris had asked S3 to return the 752 but that hasn't happened. I also can't explain why VH isn't flying their own Mad Dogs to MIA, they have even wetleased a 757. Hopefully this move by Avior will make them react and do something.

Saludos desde Caracas,
Luis


User currently offlineErikgnoha From Venezuela, joined Jun 2006, 214 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 10653 times:

Excellent news!!! Avior is an airline who is growing really steady, with good service and on-time performance. They have created in BLA a mini-hub which I have used a lot.

Quoting MAH4546 (Thread starter):
Once they get DOT approval, the tickets can then be sold as a regular scheduled flight.

Do you know when they will get the approval??



Venezuela, donde los suenos renacen
User currently offlineQFSYD744 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 10642 times:

Quoting MAH4546 (Thread starter):
12C/99J

Is that supposed to be 12c/99y ?


User currently offlineLuisde8cd From Pitcairn Islands, joined Aug 2004, 2570 posts, RR: 31
Reply 5, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 10633 times:

Quoting QFSYD744 (Reply 4):
Is that supposed to be 12c/99y ?

Yes.

Saludos desde Caracas,
Luis


User currently offlineCayMan From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 905 posts, RR: 9
Reply 6, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 10531 times:

I am still waiting to see if somebody will re-enter the MIA PMV market?

User currently offlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9692 posts, RR: 11
Reply 7, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 10497 times:

Quoting CayMan (Reply 6):
I am still waiting to see if somebody will re-enter the MIA PMV market?

Even though I am not familiar with the load factors for this route, it does look interesting as PMV is a well-known tourist destination.

I also don't understand why the other Venezuelan airlines have not started their own flight to the U.S yet.

A388


User currently offlineMIAMIx707 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 10426 times:

This might sound stupid, but I absolutely dislike Avior's boring color scheme. Too many eurowhite color schemes at MIA nowadays.

I much rather see Rutaca, Laser or Aserca flying to MIA  Smile


User currently offlineChiguire From Venezuela, joined Sep 2004, 2003 posts, RR: 16
Reply 9, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 10384 times:

It is a great idea to usa Barcelona a kind of hub from Eastern Venezuela to MIA. If we keep in mind that BLA can be reached from Cumana (CUM), Puerto Ordaz (PZO), Ciudad Bolivar (CBL) and even PMV.
The only thing I wonder is about the handling at the airport...there is only one arriving and departure hall and one baggage belt since they turned the former international terminal into domestic, leaving the former domestic building for General Aviation.
At present I would say that they either need to separate the waiting lounges (easier as dividing the departure hall as there is one separate room available.
Or there can only be one plane at a time. Meaning that domestic flights arriving while MIA passengers are in the arrivals hall need to wait until the room is empty and everyboday has cleared customs.

The airport in BLA urgently needs an expansion !

Quoting CayMan (Reply 6):
I am still waiting to see if somebody will re-enter the MIA PMV market?

I am really waiting for that as well. It would make access to PMV much easier from the US. Transiting at CCS still takes a lot of time.

Quoting MIAMIx707 (Reply 8):
This might sound stupid, but I absolutely dislike Avior's boring color scheme. Too many eurowhite color schemes at MIA nowadays.

I much rather see Rutaca, Laser or Aserca flying to MIA

Well - I think it's not too bad....


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User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32578 posts, RR: 72
Reply 10, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 10271 times:

Quoting Luisde8cd (Reply 2):
Avior had announced FLL as a "new" destination back in Jan 06, I wonder why they finally picked MIA.

Multiple reasons are likely. First, MIA waives landing fees for a year for all new airlines to all new destinations (FLL is case-per-case), secondly FLL has prooven unsuccessful with most international ventures in the past (outside of Spirit, only AA's PAP and AV's BOG flight have been strong performers), and third, they have smartly decided to open a new route rather than compete with four others to Caracas, and that is best served from Miami, not Fort Lauderdale.

Aserca will hopefully be at MIA soon, and they plan on opening Miami-Barquisimeto.



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User currently offlineMIAMIx707 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 10135 times:

Quoting Chiguire (Reply 9):
Well - I think it's not too bad....

I'm assuming you're joking. The Avior paintscheme has the classic forumla for aircraft ugliness. It never fails. White body + Red Tail + Painted engines (with same color as tail) + small titles (again in the same color as tail and engines) + ugly logo = fugly.

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 10):
Aserca will hopefully be at MIA soon, and they plan on opening Miami-Barquisimeto.


Earlier in the year the date would be around October, and so was Domodedovo. Looking forward to see both of them at Miami soon.


User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32578 posts, RR: 72
Reply 12, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 10071 times:

Quoting MIAMIx707 (Reply 11):


Earlier in the year the date would be around October, and so was Domodedovo. Looking forward to see both of them at Miami soon.

You know just as well as I do that Latin American airlines talk and talk and talk with little action. At least AeroSur and Avior's talk turned into action.



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User currently offlineCHRISBA777ER From UK - England, joined Mar 2001, 5964 posts, RR: 62
Reply 13, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 10065 times:

I read this as MIA - BCN non-stop with a 732!!! LOL!!!


What do you mean you dont have any bourbon? Do you know how far it is to Houston? What kind of airline is this???
User currently offlineMIAMIx707 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day ago) and read 10003 times:

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 12):
You know just as well as I do that Latin American airlines talk and talk and talk with little action. At least AeroSur and Avior's talk turned into action.

Indeed. Out of all the latin airline news I've read I think less than half of them happened. Wasn't Conviasa going to land in MIA soon? Chavez doesn't want to land in "the Devil's territory" anymore? Big grin Seriously though, does he have a say on Conviasa's routes?

You mentioned you heard of a second Asian cargo airline in another thread if I remember right. It looks as Singapore cargo is flying to MIA once a week, it's done so for the past two weeks...

Quoting CHRISBA777ER (Reply 13):
I read this as MIA - BCN non-stop with a 732!!! LOL!!!

 Wink


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