Trvlr From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 4430 posts, RR: 24 Reply 4, posted (12 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 591 times:
I think those are weekly charters. If you do a search for pictures of the QF 747 at BCN, the captions say that the flight is a saturday-only BA related charter for cruise ship passengers.
AFa340-300E From France, joined May 1999, 2084 posts, RR: 28 Reply 5, posted (12 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 588 times:
Hello,
I can't finf the information on qantas.com.au.
IIRC someone mentionned the 747-400 operating on FRA remains there the whole day long (not sure).
So why not not using FRA has stop-over instead?
In order to keep their LHR slots?
Jet Setter From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 8, posted (12 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 577 times:
British Airways carry all Qantas' connecting passengers,
MAN-LHR, MAN-CDG, MAN-FRA and MAN-FCO. It's much cheaper to use BA scheduled flights than flying a B747-400 half-empty on a 1 hour flight! Qantas' passenger numbers from MAN have fallen since direct flights were withdrawn, to the benefit of Singapore, Malaysian, Cathay Pacific and Emirates - but while ever BA is involved with Qantas I'm confident there will be no direct service from Manchester...The first change to happen when BA took a stake in Qantas was the end of Manchester flights.
Qantas' charter flights from LHR take in Barcelona every Saturday.
On Wednesdays and Fridays various cities are served on a rotating basis; Barcelona, Istanbu, Venice, Stockholm, Naples, hessalonika, Izmir, Athens and Larnaca.
There are also flights to Istanbul or Barcelona on selected Mondays, Tuesdays, Thursdays, Fridays and Sundays.
All flights are chartered and operated on behalf of Royal Carribbean cruises, whose passengers will pay the premium for Qantas services.
The flights probably don't make vast sums of money, but this will be preferable to a full day's parking at Heathrow, which is very expensive, and it also maximises aircraft and crew utilisation.
Billy From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2000, 895 posts, RR: 8 Reply 11, posted (12 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 541 times:
Whilst the BA/QF relationship will continue to work against the QF 747 at FRA operating to MAN, the FRA slot situation also is almost impossible to work around. I think that you would find that the short rotation between FRA and MAN would require an extra set of crews.
I understand that Cathay Pacific do a similar thing with their 747 at LHR. I heard that it was doing Venice (?) for a cruise company during the summer. Anyone know more?
XQF From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 13, posted (12 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 536 times:
The last few years that QF flew into MAN it was an extension of the LHR QF1/2 service. Before that MAN was an also an extension at one time of QF's AMS service (in the late 80's - many years ago now!!)
Billy From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2000, 895 posts, RR: 8 Reply 16, posted (12 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 522 times:
After moving the intermediate points around (ATH, AMS, FRA), QF settled for a bit of Heathrow slot protection by operating LHR-MAN-LHR with the 747-400 for a couple of years. The route was terminated completely in the early nineties. BA then ran a 737 from MAN to LHR to connect directly with the 747 (into T3 or T4, whichever QF operated into then). Needless to say this pointless execise did not last more than 6 months.