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Tilton's Contract Extended At UA  
User currently offlineChicagoFlyer From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 272 posts, RR: 0
Posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 2601 times:

According to the press release, it was supposed to expire in September 2007 and is now good through 2011 (along with the rest of UA top management).

So the board decided to keep the management in place. Remember this is the new board post Ch-11, and I heard this particular board meeting is supposed to be the "strategic direction" kind. This is the most clear indication that from the point of view of the shareholders UA management is doing (and expected to do) a good job. I don't want this to degenerate into a thread where people bash UA management or respond to such bashing. Let's consider what this means for the airline.

- I think this may make the merger with control given up less likely (see "UA and CO merge, CO management remains in charge" rumors).
- Also, Tilton will probably get a lot more money. Again, we can bring up "long-suffering employees" and discuss whether he deserves it or not, but it's a given that if he never joined UA and pursued his alternate career in the oil industry, he'd be worth much more than now!
- Finally, everyone agrees that UA is far from an efficiently run airline--i.e., in need of non-labor cost reductions. This probably means that the board believes current management can achieve the savings.

Anyone heard anything else on what came out of this board meeting?

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User currently offlineF9Animal From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 5050 posts, RR: 28
Reply 1, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 2500 times:

AWESOME! Glad to see the scum of the earth get another 4 years. He is about as good a GW is. And both are former and still are heavily invested in oil. Gotta love it........


I Am A Different Animal!!
User currently offlineUnited767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 356 posts, RR: 5
Reply 2, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 2464 times:

Why am I not surprised.  weeping . How much more must I suffer with this guy at the helm?  cry 


I wish UA flew mainline to MYR, that way you wouldn't be stuck in a smelly Saturn for 12 hours.
User currently offlineJacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 59
Reply 3, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 2447 times:

Quoting F9Animal (Reply 1):
AWESOME! Glad to see the scum of the earth get another 4 years. He is about as good a GW is. And both are former and still are heavily invested in oil. Gotta love it........

"Scum" like him turned down other much more lucrative (as well as less of a headache) jobs.....quite a number of few people said UA would go "chapter 7"...yes..all is not peachy-keen, but it is profitable and going in a positive direction...

How about some kudos to Tilton..?



"Up the Irons!"
User currently offlineCHIFLYGUY From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 141 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 2434 times:

Quoting ChicagoFlyer (Thread starter):

- I think this may make the merger with control given up less likely (see "UA and CO merge, CO management remains in charge" rumors).

Why say that? A big fat contract now means an even bigger, fatter golden parachute if he bails. Remember, in any change of control that resulted in a Tilton departure, they'd have to buy out his contract.


User currently offlineUnited767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 356 posts, RR: 5
Reply 5, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 2423 times:

Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 3):
"Scum" like him turned down other much more lucrative (as well as less of a headache) jobs.....quite a number of few people said UA would go "chapter 7"...yes..all is not peachy-keen, but it is profitable and going in a positive direction...

How about some kudos to Tilton..?

O.K. maybe "scum" was a harsh word from F9Animal, but I agree with his view on Tilton. As for giving him "kudos" I agree that yes, he did somewhat turn UA around, but because of him I am making 10k less a year and because of that i am quite bitter still. I'm sure it will pass in due time, as long as no more pay cuts are on the way.
(i am also bitter that he "demanded" pay cuts from employees and he himself took none). Just my   .

[Edited 2006-09-30 04:07:29]


I wish UA flew mainline to MYR, that way you wouldn't be stuck in a smelly Saturn for 12 hours.
User currently offlineMariner From New Zealand, joined Nov 2001, 25260 posts, RR: 85
Reply 6, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 2414 times:
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Quoting F9Animal (Reply 1):
the scum of the earth

Hmmmm?

If Mr. Tilton had not taken the job at United, the airline would likely have one under.

There was not a long list of candidates for the job, and even fewer with his credentials - who were prepared to take the job.

United was in desperate circumstances and almost total denial and the actions by the board did nothing to help - they appointed an interim CEO who was 69 and had to retire within 12 months.

"I am not here to preside over a bankruptcy," Mr Creighton decreed - and he didn't - he retired. No one knows what was wasted in that time, or how much worse the mess had become before Mr/. Tilton agreed to take it on.

I may not like some of the things Mr. Tilton has done, I may disapprove of the whole Chapter 11 process. but anyone who still has a job at United owes that job to Mr. Tilton.

mariner

[Edited 2006-09-30 04:24:39]


aeternum nauta
User currently offlineJacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 59
Reply 7, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 2408 times:

Quoting United767 (Reply 5):
(i am also bitter that he "demanded" pay cuts from employees and he himself took none). Just my

I could understand your frustration United767....but unfortunately, that's how it always is with management...look at how many dot.com/telecom CEO's made millions while their companies were burning through billions of dollars of shareholder equity........most of it legal unfortunately... Sad

Looking at the financials of UA from a few years ago, it wasn't too hard to conceive that there was a possiblity UA would have been mentioned along the lines of Pan Am....

Obviously it would have been better if he took a paycut for the first few years also..but that's not how it goes unfortunately....

Cheers..



"Up the Irons!"
User currently offlineUnited767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 356 posts, RR: 5
Reply 8, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 2395 times:

Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 7):
Looking at the financials of UA from a few years ago, it wasn't too hard to conceive that there was a possiblity UA would have been mentioned along the lines of Pan Am....

Looking back, you are absolutely correct on that. I was going through alot of stress then, luckily it never turned out that way. I also agree with what you also replied to on my post. Like I said, I am glad I am still employeed at UA, I only hope that someday our pay will go back up just a little, but that is how it is with the airlines now a days and i am slowly grasping that.

Ryan



I wish UA flew mainline to MYR, that way you wouldn't be stuck in a smelly Saturn for 12 hours.
User currently offlineF9Animal From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 5050 posts, RR: 28
Reply 9, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 2386 times:

Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 3):
"Scum" like him turned down other much more lucrative (as well as less of a headache) jobs.....quite a number of few people said UA would go "chapter 7"...yes..all is not peachy-keen, but it is profitable and going in a positive direction...

How about some kudos to Tilton..?

Kudos? The guy mugged and made off like a bandit. He was and is not the savior for UA. How can one justify that he could have made more money elsewhere? He was not the only one that could have taken the job, and put UA through 3 years of bk.

Chapter 7? If they had a competent person at the wheel, UA would have exited 11 in less than 2 years, and a much happier work force. Sorry bud, but I am not giving any praise to the guy. Scum is actually not the word I wanted to use, as I would have gotten in trouble for profanity.

Quoting CHIFLYGUY (Reply 4):
Why say that? A big fat contract now means an even bigger, fatter golden parachute if he bails. Remember, in any change of control that resulted in a Tilton departure, they'd have to buy out his contract.

I am sure that golden parachute is now lined with diamonds.

Quoting United767 (Reply 5):
O.K. maybe "scum" was a harsh word from F9Animal, but I agree with his view on Tilton. As for giving him "kudos" I agree that yes, he did somewhat turn UA around, but because of him I am making 10k less a year and because of that i am quite bitter still. I'm sure it will pass in due time, as long as no more pay cuts are on the way.
(i am also bitter that he "demanded" pay cuts from employees and he himself took none). Just my .

And I feel your frustration 767. 10k is alot of money, and I would imagine that Tilton feels very bad for that. In fact, I wonder if he is cracking open a bottle of expensive bubbly right now to mourn that 10k loss. I get furious when hard working employees like yourself get the short end of the stick. Again, I feel your pain buddy.

Quoting Mariner (Reply 6):
I may not like some of the things Mr. Tilton has done, I may disapprove of the whole Chapter 11 process. but anyone who still has a job at United owes that job to Mr. Tilton.

I just feel that UA could have gotten better when looking for a leader. I have many friends that have lost their jobs while Tilton has been in control. Sadly, many more are probably shaking as I type this.


In total, I give Tilton no kudos. I would not even give him a kudos candy, as I am sure it is not up to his fancy.



I Am A Different Animal!!
User currently offlineUnited767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 356 posts, RR: 5
Reply 10, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 2370 times:

Quoting F9Animal (Reply 9):
And I feel your frustration 767. 10k is alot of money, and I would imagine that Tilton feels very bad for that. In fact, I wonder if he is cracking open a bottle of expensive bubbly right now to mourn that 10k loss. I get furious when hard working employees like yourself get the short end of the stick. Again, I feel your pain buddy.

Thanks man, I appreciate your comment. Welcome to my R.U. List F9Animal.



I wish UA flew mainline to MYR, that way you wouldn't be stuck in a smelly Saturn for 12 hours.
User currently offlineF9Animal From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 5050 posts, RR: 28
Reply 11, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 2355 times:

Quoting United767 (Reply 10):
Thanks man, I appreciate your comment. Welcome to my R.U. List F9Animal.

Thank you United767. It is hard workers like you that will make UA succeed. Just keep your head up high, and I wish the best for you and your colleagues at UAL. I have the highest respect for UA, and I hope they come back to what they were.



I Am A Different Animal!!
User currently offlineMariner From New Zealand, joined Nov 2001, 25260 posts, RR: 85
Reply 12, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 2353 times:
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Quoting F9Animal (Reply 9):
I just feel that UA could have gotten better when looking for a leader.

Then blame the board - they didn't look.

Quoting F9Animal (Reply 9):
He was and is not the savior for UA.

No one else wanted the job. At least, no one competent.

Quoting F9Animal (Reply 9):
He was not the only one that could have taken the job,

Pretty much.

Quoting F9Animal (Reply 9):
Chapter 7?

Was an imminent possiblity. The true financial circumstances at United were denied when Goodwin said it, and they were denied when the ATSB said it. Twice.

Even their own CEO - Creighton - denied it.

Quoting F9Animal (Reply 9):
If they had a competent person at the wheel, UA would have exited 11 in less than 2 years,

That is a value judgement, pure and simple. I know of no financial analyst who believes that. Or - not one that I trust.

mariner



aeternum nauta
User currently offlineJacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 59
Reply 13, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 2334 times:

Quoting United767 (Reply 8):
Looking back, you are absolutely correct on that. I was going through alot of stress then, luckily it never turned out that way. I also agree with what you also replied to on my post. Like I said, I am glad I am still employeed at UA, I only hope that someday our pay will go back up just a little, but that is how it is with the airlines now a days and i am slowly grasping that.

One of my investors was a UA pilot, so I know what he was going through at the time.....painful...

Hopefully, UA's balance sheet will improve over time....with that comes new planes and pay raises...Even though I don't fly UA too much...growing up in the Chicagoland suburbs/living in downtown Chicago for 3 decades and then moving to The Bay Area, I've always been exposed to UA so UA has always felt as my "hometown" carrier...I still want to see UA succeed and expand!!!

Quoting F9Animal (Reply 9):

Kudos? The guy mugged and made off like a bandit. He was and is not the savior for UA. How can one justify that he could have made more money elsewhere? He was not the only one that could have taken the job, and put UA through 3 years of bk.

He hasn't "made off" anywhere....and given that he was in the oil business...and given his credentials, he easily could have gotten a "better" job..

". He is the former Vice Chairman of ChevronTexaco Corp.....Mr. Tilton serves on the Board of Directors of the American Petroleum Institute and Lincoln National Corp., and on the Board and the Executive Committee of the British American Chamber of Commerce.":**

**-source-http://www.staralliance.com/star_alliance/press_room/executive_biographies/glenn_f.html

Quoting Mariner (Reply 12):
No one else wanted the job. At least, no one competent.

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Quoting Mariner (Reply 12):

Then blame the board - they didn't look.

 checkmark 

Quoting Mariner (Reply 12):

That is a value judgement, pure and simple. I know of no financial analyst who believes that. Or - not one that I trust.

 checkmark 



"Up the Irons!"
User currently offlineN31029 From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 101 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 2323 times:

Hi everyone.

A very close friend of mine who is a 744 captain with United has shared with me over the recent past similar stories of associates, at all levels, who have experienced the same pain and frustrations as F9Animal and United767. My heart goes out to you both, and, the other brave and courageous United employees that have made the brand so great.

I, as a 1K flyer and strong United loyalist (my hometown airline!) am aware that the quality of this operation was built by the men and women who believed in something better - and gave of themselves to achieve it - the "rank and file."

Ramp workers, cargo handlers, gate agents, flight attendants, and, crew members have all been shining examples of professionalism and perseverence.

I am proud of what these (you) great people have accomplished in the face of extreme adversity.

I know too that almost every industry - at some point in its lifecycle - goes through hardship. And the airline industry most certainly has had more than its share.

I feel - and grieve - for the wonderful people at United who have been through so much. I'm impressed with wonderful people at United who haven't given up.

It is my hope that despite subjective opinions about Mr. Tilton's job at the helm, the objective viewpoint is not forgotten: United is coming through this period of darkness with its head held high. And why? Because of its people!

So, a personal "thank you" to each and every one of the great United workers - at all levels; it is my hope that each of your lives will have a bright future. There is no reason why this will not be so.

I believe in miracles. And, I know that sometimes it is darkest just before the light begins to shine.

For whatever might be the prevailing opinion of Mr. Tilton, he has kept this great company in a position where its even greater people can help it rise to the top again.

God bless!



John 3:16
User currently offlineF9Animal From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 5050 posts, RR: 28
Reply 15, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 2317 times:

Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 13):
He hasn't "made off" anywhere....and given that he was in the oil business...and given his credentials, he easily could have gotten a "better" job..

". He is the former Vice Chairman of ChevronTexaco Corp.....Mr. Tilton serves on the Board of Directors of the American Petroleum Institute and Lincoln National Corp., and on the Board and the Executive Committee of the British American Chamber of Commerce.":**

**-source-http://www.staralliance.com/star_alliance/press_room/executive_biographies/glenn_f.html

Yup, I am sure one can dig some dirty oil off the bottom of his shoes. Oil and airlines don't mix too well these days. Is it perhaps that nobody would take him back, as to the reason he jumped to UA? What did he do to Chevron Texaco Corp? Retire? Forced into retirement? Sorry, I do not trust Tilton. He has done nothing to impress me, or 99% of the work force at UA. The other 1% is the execs that are sitting in his office.

The day I can trust anybody associated with the oil industry is the day that I die. Can't argue or change my opinion of him. Was Bush in the oil industry?

I edited the remainder of my feelings for the respect of UA employees. Again, I just hope that UA gets a better captain at the controls. I love UA, and the employees and shareholders of UA deserve a better leader.

In closing, thanks to the UA employees. Tilton is just a small dot when compared to the reason UA has come out of bk. The only real credit goes to the employees that gave up pay, sweat, and determination.

[Edited 2006-09-30 06:02:43]

[Edited 2006-09-30 06:04:02]


I Am A Different Animal!!
User currently offlineUnited767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 356 posts, RR: 5
Reply 16, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 2294 times:

N31029, thank you for your kind words. It is nice to see that some people still support UAL and its hard working employees.

Ryan



I wish UA flew mainline to MYR, that way you wouldn't be stuck in a smelly Saturn for 12 hours.
User currently offlineAPFPilot1985 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 2294 times:

Quoting F9Animal (Reply 9):

I just feel that UA could have gotten better when looking for a leader. I have many friends that have lost their jobs while Tilton has been in control. Sadly, many more are probably shaking as I type this.

name one, that could have come in and done a better job and
a) would have wanted the job
b)would have done it for less pay


Without him there is a good chance you wouldn't even have a job much less a 10K pay cut

[Edited 2006-09-30 06:06:44]

User currently offlineJacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 59
Reply 18, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 2284 times:

Quoting N31029 (Reply 14):
Hi everyone.

A very close friend of mine who is a 744 captain with United has shared with me over the recent past similar stories of associates, at all levels, who have experienced the same pain and frustrations as F9Animal and United767. My heart goes out to you both, and, the other brave and courageous United employees that have made the brand so great.

I, as a 1K flyer and strong United loyalist (my hometown airline!) am aware that the quality of this operation was built by the men and women who believed in something better - and gave of themselves to achieve it - the "rank and file."

Ramp workers, cargo handlers, gate agents, flight attendants, and, crew members have all been shining examples of professionalism and perseverence.

I am proud of what these (you) great people have accomplished in the face of extreme adversity.

I know too that almost every industry - at some point in its lifecycle - goes through hardship. And the airline industry most certainly has had more than its share.

I feel - and grieve - for the wonderful people at United who have been through so much. I'm impressed with wonderful people at United who haven't given up.

It is my hope that despite subjective opinions about Mr. Tilton's job at the helm, the objective viewpoint is not forgotten: United is coming through this period of darkness with its head held high. And why? Because of its people!

So, a personal "thank you" to each and every one of the great United workers - at all levels; it is my hope that each of your lives will have a bright future. There is no reason why this will not be so.

I believe in miracles. And, I know that sometimes it is darkest just before the light begins to shine.

For whatever might be the prevailing opinion of Mr. Tilton, he has kept this great company in a position where its even greater people can help it rise to the top again.

Good post N31029....we all want UA to do well.... Smile


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Quoting F9Animal (Reply 15):
The day I can trust anybody associated with the oil industry is the day that I die. Can't argue or change my opinion of him.

That's ok..you are entitled to your opinion..I'm fine with it, its just that I respectfully disagree... Smile

Quoting F9Animal (Reply 15):
Oil and airlines don't mix too well these days

Actually, they do...without lube and gas, them' planes ain't goin' anywhere.... Wink

Quoting F9Animal (Reply 15):
Is it perhaps that nobody would take him back, as to the reason he jumped to UA?

Er... no ..he is quite distinguished.....

Apropos..I just happen to disagree with your comments..but I do like F9... Smile


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Cheers..



"Up the Irons!"
User currently offlineUadc8contrail From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 1782 posts, RR: 9
Reply 19, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 2274 times:

Quoting Mariner (Reply 12):
No one else wanted the job. At least, no one competent.

mariner,
you are correct......back in dec of 2002 i had a 1 hr conversation with adam aron at the ege airport prior to his departure to ohare and he told me that no one of any merit wanted the job at ual and the board asked him 3x before he accepted the job albeit with a better compensation package than the previous offer....anyone remember him????he made his mark on ual in a big way....he was the one that convinced wolf to go with the battleship gray scheme and after leaving ual he went to ncl(iirc) then went on to vail resorts as the ceo....



bus driver.......move that bus:)
User currently offlineN31029 From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 101 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 2274 times:

Quoting United767 (Reply 16):
N31029, thank you for your kind words. It is nice to see that some people still support UAL and its hard working employees.

You're welcome, Ryan. And thank you!

God bless!



John 3:16
User currently offlineBicoastal From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 2270 times:

Quoting United767 (Reply 5):
but because of him I am making 10k less a year

No, because of macro economic issues and a radical change in the way ALL legacy airlines are run, market forces AND a desire by the consumer for the lowest possible fares, you and others who work in legacy airlines are all making market competitive salaries today. Unlike the high salaries before which were not what the market could support. Unfortunately for those at legacies who were used to higher salaries and benefits, the labor market can't justify it.

Quoting F9Animal (Reply 9):
just feel that UA could have gotten better when looking for a leader. I have many friends that have lost their jobs while Tilton has been in control.

Tilton has saved United. The airline industry has changed. Deal with it. Thanks to low cost and better run new airlines, the legacies have had to adapt to survive. That or perish. You can blame one man for the change in the industry and consumer demand for low fares and the need for legacies to stay competitive, but that would show your ignorance of macro economic forces. Yes, many of your friends have lost their jobs. Oh well, that's life. Maybe United didn't need in-house aircraft cleaners and kitchens. Maybe they needed to shed people, contract out many jobs, and lower salaries to survive. Your friends and their unions have shown no feasible and viable alternative to what Tilton has achieved.


User currently offlineF9Animal From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 5050 posts, RR: 28
Reply 22, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 2270 times:

Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 18):
That's ok..you are entitled to your opinion..I'm fine with it, its just that I respectfully disagree...

LOL! What would we do in these forums if we all agreed on everything. That is what makes airliners.net such a fun place to visit. I respect your feelings too!

Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 18):
Actually, they do...without lube and gas, them' planes ain't goin' anywhere.... Wink

Alright..... I bet Tilton is not looking for an alternate source!!!  Smile

Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 18):
Er... no ..he is quite distinguished.....

Apropos..I just happen to disagree with your comments..but I do like F9... Smile

Distkinksquished?

Thanks! F9 is a great airline. And UA is great too. While the two compete, I have nothing but the highest respect for UA, and I want nothing more than to see them be successful. I put 3 years of my life in at UA, and I will always have a special place for UA in my old ticker.



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User currently offlineJacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 59
Reply 23, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 2255 times:

Quoting F9Animal (Reply 22):
LOL! What would we do in these forums if we all agreed on everything. That is what makes airliners.net such a fun place to visit. I respect your feelings too!

It would certainly be a boring place to exchange ideas/info... Wink

That being said, 'ell would have to freeze over before that happens... cold 

Quoting F9Animal (Reply 22):
Alright..... I bet Tilton is not looking for an alternate source!!!  Smile

I bet you he is.....< fuel dependency = higher profits...

Quoting F9Animal (Reply 22):
Distkinksquished?

distinguished... Wink

Quoting F9Animal (Reply 22):
Thanks! F9 is a great airline. And UA is great too. While the two compete, I have nothing but the highest respect for UA, and I want nothing more than to see them be successful. I put 3 years of my life in at UA, and I will always have a special place for UA in my old ticker.

I thought we're not supposed to agree on everything... silly ...almost everyone here would like to see UA (as well as F9) do well....

Cheers..

p.s.-thanks for respecting my feelings.. Wink



"Up the Irons!"
User currently offlineAvatordon From United States of America, joined May 2006, 239 posts, RR: 4
Reply 24, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 2129 times:

I think this aware says it all about good ole Glenn -

http://www.planebusiness.com/bestofthebanter/2006/04/13/bestof.shtml

If being pillaged and plundered by the likes of Tilton & Co makes one frustrated and bitter, then count be among the frustrated and bitter folks whose lives have been impacted negatively by this man. I consider myself in very good company as opposed to the Kool Aid drinkers that seem to think he's some kind of savior.

Too many people were hurt by this individual and his cronies. His "if you don't like it, leave" attitude towards the employees who built United and stayed through thick and thin is nothing short of comntemptous. He's spoken of fulfilling the hopes and aspirations of the employee group in "saving" United, while he put the torch to those hopes so that he could warm his hands at the flames. He's to be reviled, not admired.


25 Post contains images FL370 : ALL I KNOW IS THAT THE CEO OF UA DOESN'T DISERVE THAT FAT RAISE!!!! I DO'T THINK HE EVEN DISERVES THAT MUCH MONEY!!! ALL HE IS DOING IS SCREWING ALL T
26 Halls120 : He was a casualty of the merger when Chevron bought Texaco. But when he ran Texaco, he saved the company from a period where liquidation was a real p
27 Post contains images Uadc8contrail : FL370, i understand yours and all the others that feel that glenn has raped and pillaged this company...2 things i have finally let go are...#1)we all
28 Post contains images Jacobin777 : Uadc8contrail.....congratulations on your 22 years service at UA ...though I no longer fly with UA anymore, it's people like you who make aviation an
29 Planemaker : I think that pay raises are not feasible for a very long time, unfortunately. The industry is still going through change and this small uptick that i
30 Post contains images Jacobin777 : Hopefully some pay rises..... I do aree with you however....I think there will be another wave.while it might be more severe than the previous wave,
31 Planemaker : Yup, that is why Tilton is so vocal about industry consolidation, and it seems that the BoD backs his vision. Domestically, the LCCs are slowing down
32 CTHEWORLD : Or you could look at it as you have a job with UAL, period. Actually, quite the contrary, he is making far less than his market value, but staying at
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