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User currently offlineLGW From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (14 years 9 months 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 1117 times:

Hi, just wondering if anyone has ever flown on .....

European Air Charter or a BAC 1-11

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Sabena MD-11
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Airtours International A330
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Any news on what the airline/aircraft was like inside, service etc would be very much appreciated.



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User currently offlineContinentalEWR From United States of America, joined May 2000, 3762 posts, RR: 12
Reply 1, posted (14 years 9 months 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 1101 times:

I flew a US Air BAC1-11 from Burlington VT to New York
LaGuardia in 1983. It was horrible. Noisy, flimsy airplane.

I flew the predecessor to JMCAir (Caledonian Airways)
from London Gatwick to Crown Point, Tobago in 1999.
Outbound and return were L1011-500's. Crowded, no
space, little food BUT on time. Both ways.

User currently offlinePhilB From Ireland, joined May 1999, 2915 posts, RR: 12
Reply 2, posted (14 years 9 months 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 1094 times:

Over the years I have flown on all but two of the BAC1-11 srs 500 that BEA/British Airways operated from the original 1967 and later 1970s orders, two of Court Line and three of BCal, all of which passed to BA at the takeover.

The aircraft were all 5 abreast in coach with adequate legroom, even in Court Line charter layout.

Generally light and airy and quite quiet unless you were right by the engines.

Very much an over engineered aircraft, solid as a rock but liable to give a hard ride in turbulence.

A couple of stories.

In 1973 there was a "Manchester Festival". The BEA (which had just become BA) Engineering division had an open day. I went along and managed to blag a free 30 minute flight on one of the 10 flights on which they were giving seats away (as I was flying to/from Glasgow sometimes twice a week on the 1-11s at the time I reckoned they owed me a freebie). The aircraft was G-AVMT.

I found myself sitting next to "Miss Manchester Festival" and spent the whole ride holding her hand and generally trying to make her feel better as she made liberal use of the sick bags.

There wasn't a bit of turbulence and she admitted when we got off that she had only taken the flight because the organisers had told her she must. She said she was scared stiff from start to finish and she never wanted to see another aircraft.

Five minutes later she was telling a radio reporter how much she had enjoyed the flight and how great BA was going to be. Her "minder", who hadn't wanted the flight either and who stayed on the ground, prompted her through the interview.

In 1980 I flew from Manchester - Dusseldorf - Berlin on G-AVMZ and encountered severe clear air turbulence at 20,000ft on climb out from MAN.

The right wing appeared to bend through about 20 degrees though the aircraft didn't bank and we literally fell 2,000ft. The meal had just been served so I and many others ended up with food and drink all over us and one of the FAs hit the ceiling, fortunately having had the presence of mind to put the brake on the food trolley and she used her hands to protect her head.

The Captain was not as lucky as he had ben leaving his seat to go to the toilet, the ride up to then being smooth, and he cracked his head on the overhead switch panel.

A BAe Tornado development pilot sitting close by agreed with the flight crew that none of them had ever experienced anything as severe before. We landed at Dusseldorf and a long visual inspection took place before we flew on to Berlin and a change of clothes.

User currently offlineSAS_A330-300 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (14 years 9 months 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 1075 times:

Well, I flew a Premiair A330-300. Premiair has leased thier A330 from Airtours so I think it's the same standard inside.
The flight was Stockholm (ARN) - Palma (PMI) and home same way a week later. The service was okay but the plane was great!
The seats were 2-4-2. My seats was on row 46/45 (outbound/homeward) of 52 so I couldn't enjoy the flight so much.
The landing was almost quiet. Both flights was on time.
I can't remember so much more of it.

Best Regards, Simon

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