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Seattle-based 747 Cargo Airline?  
User currently offlineSeaTran From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 58 posts, RR: 0
Posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 3959 times:

I've heard rumors that there is a relatively new cargo airline flying 747's out of Seattle. Does anyone have any idea what it's name is?

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User currently offlineJetjack74 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 7387 posts, RR: 51
Reply 1, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 3931 times:
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User currently offlineGARUDAROD From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 1503 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 3930 times:

CARGO 360 is the name of the airline. It was formed with former management
from Delta with a tie in to Korean Business interests...they have two or
three aircraft up and running I believe



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User currently offlinePositiverate From United States of America, joined May 2005, 1590 posts, RR: 8
Reply 3, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 3906 times:

Quoting GARUDAROD (Reply 2):
CARGO 360 is the name of the airline. It was formed with former management
from Delta with a tie in to Korean Business interests...they have two or
three aircraft up and running I believe

Right, I think Carter Chapman and BJ Smith if I am not mistaken...

http://www.cargo360.aero/

[Edited 2006-09-30 03:22:09]

User currently offlineScaledesigns From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 211 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 3891 times:

Cargo 360 maybe...They have a big contract with Korean Air cargo.I see them
at ORD all the time.I have seen a 742 and 743 in full colors so far.



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User currently offlineMIAMIx707 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 3770 times:

I've seen them going to JFK at least twice, while checking the arrivals on the flight tracker.. so maybe they're flying there too regularly.

User currently offlineN757KW From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 435 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 3575 times:

Cargo360 is currently operating flights for Korean Air Cargo to ORD, JFK, and LAX. KE also uses Southern Air. Cargo360 has 3 aircraft all ex KE Cargo aircraft.

N757KW



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User currently offlineHAL From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 2530 posts, RR: 53
Reply 7, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 3393 times:

If anyone has applied, what are their minimums for hiring pilots?

HAL



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User currently offlineGARUDAROD From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 1503 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 3386 times:

Quoting HAL (Reply 7):
If anyone has applied, what are their minimums for hiring pilots?

HAL,
There is a lengthy discussion regarding the terms for hire at CARGO 360
on PPRUNE. It seems prospective pilots have to pay for their type cert
and sign a bond among other things.



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User currently offlineHAL From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 2530 posts, RR: 53
Reply 9, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 3259 times:

Quoting GARUDAROD (Reply 8):
It seems prospective pilots have to pay for their type cert
and sign a bond among other things.

Ouch! Being a Seattle resident I thought I'd look into it just in case the dreaded furlough bug hits again, but with info like that, I'd have to think long and hard.

I tried doing a search on the PPrune site, but couldn't find that thread. Any hints where it is?

HAL



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User currently offlineLemurs From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 1439 posts, RR: 4
Reply 10, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 3250 times:

That's interesting...seems like the 743 is the least ideal cargo option in the 747 family after the -100, isn't it? Extra weight from the stretched upper deck with none of the benefits of the -400 ? I guess you can get them cheap and easily, and they probably have lower hours than a lot of the -200's on the market? Just find it curious.


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User currently offlineNA From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 10365 posts, RR: 11
Reply 11, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 3220 times:

Their website isn´t working properly. Just a homepage, categories are inactive.

User currently offlineJakeOrion From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 1248 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 3205 times:


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User currently offlineTod From Denmark, joined Aug 2004, 1721 posts, RR: 3
Reply 13, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 3200 times:

Quoting Lemurs (Reply 10):
Extra weight from the stretched upper deck with none of the benefits

The weight difference isn't too big once you gut the u/d interior and I've been told that the aerodynamics are a tiny bit better too.

Tod


User currently offlineDxBrian From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 135 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 3199 times:

If you go to the Cargo360.aero web site, then click on contact, you will find 2 e-mail addresses at which to enquire about employment.
Since you're local, it probably wouldn't hurt to at least talk to them and see what they offer.


User currently offlineGARUDAROD From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 1503 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 3134 times:

HAL

try this

http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthr...ad.php?t=228739&highlight=CARGO360

If that doesnt work, go to the Freight Dogs section and do a search for CARGO360..



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User currently offlineAndrewUber From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 2528 posts, RR: 41
Reply 16, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 3042 times:

My GOD - I looked at PPRuNe and someone mentioned that the KAL 747 classics (the ones that Cargo 360 is now flying) have upwards of 142,000 hours on the airframes, and are some of the highest time airframes in the world.

Unbelievable. That's 16 years in the air. How safe is that!?



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User currently offlineFlykal From Australia, joined Sep 2003, 442 posts, RR: 3
Reply 17, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 3040 times:

Quoting Positiverate (Reply 3):
Right, I think Carter Chapman and BJ Smith if I am not mistaken...

Try David Greenberg, ex Snr VP of Korean Air.



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User currently offlineDxBrian From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 135 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 2751 times:

All of those guys are involved. Dave Greenberg is the president, BJ Smith is the Director of Operations, Carter Chapman is the Chief Pilot. Everyone involved in Flight Ops management from the start-up through today is an ex-Delta employee. Most of the initial cadre of pilots were also DL retirees. The last 3 pilot classes have gone away from that trend.
Yes, the airframes are all 18 years old. The airplanes have been very well maintained by Korean Air Lines, and had no problems passing the FAA Part 121 Conformity Inspection required before they could get an N number.


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