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Aer Lingus To Leave Oneworld On April 1st  
User currently offlineB742 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2005, 3768 posts, RR: 19
Posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 8141 times:

Aer Lingus has confirmed that it will be leaving the oneworld alliance on the 1st of April 2007.

The Dublin based airline will cease with all involvement with other oneworld airlines on the 31st March 2007.

Aer Lingus announced in March that it would leave the alliance as its stragedy had changed and it did not feature an Alliance.

Three new members will join soon; Malev, Japan Airlines and Royal Jordanian!

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Source: http://www.oneworld.com/ow/news/details?objectID=8613


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Sad to see EI leave the alliance  Sad

Do you guys think EI leaving the alliance is a bad or good move?

Will EI continue to codeshare with certain airlines such as BA?

What does the future hold for EI?

Note that this confirmation was annouced yesterday on the 29th September  Smile

Rob!  wave 

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User currently offlineZschocheImages From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 151 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 8130 times:

I think that it is a bad move. That closes many options for EI's customers. Could this be a move to possibly switch alliances down the road? If EI feels this will help, all power to them.


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User currently offlinePlymSpotter From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 11708 posts, RR: 60
Reply 2, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 8089 times:

I can't say this news has surprised me, Aer Lingus are going down the LCC road to try and counter Ryanair. But I think not being in OneWorld could be a bad move for their long haul traffic, especially those connecting through DUB from Europe to America.

What I am surprised at is that you say Malev is going to join OneWorld, I hadn't heard that news before, I thought they were firmly part of SkyTeam?

Dan Smile



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User currently offlineBY738 From Tonga, joined Sep 2000, 2431 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 8055 times:

EI leaving OW - no great loss.

User currently offlineJetBlueGuy2006 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 1665 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 8045 times:

I must say, in a sense, it doesn't really surprise me; but as others have said; in the future, I think it could be a very bad move for them.


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User currently offlineN31029 From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 101 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 8025 times:

Hi everyone.

I, for one, will miss them as a part of oneworld.

Having flown a seamless ORD-DUB-SNN-DUB-ORD itinerary this past summer, with the first four segments on EI and the final segment on AA, I found the experience very positive. In fact, due to weather, our originally-planned BOS-SNN segment on AA was delayed and we were confidently re-booked on EI.

I like IE for the people, and, for the superb livery of its aircraft!

However, I must assume that the management team at EI knows more than I do about the future profitability and success of the airline - thus - while sad to see, changes such as these are a part of prudent business planning.

I do hope that EI remains as a player at ORD so that I can plan future trips aboard their comfortable and colorful A330s.

Best wishes to EI and to the wonderful people of Ireland.

God bless -



John 3:16
User currently offlineMjlhou From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 154 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 7980 times:

Well, I for one can say, I'll miss seeing the OW logo on the side of their aircraft. Since they claim that the "alliance model" is not what they're working towards a this point in time, I guess it's the right thing for them then. I just hope it works for them!  confused 

It seems they are trying to go more of the low cost way. I think most of the low cost carriers have started out as that. It seems that any carriers who have tried to re-invent themselves as an LCC have an extremely hard time doing so. I would say especially in Europe with competitors like Ryanair and EasyJet as well as the evergrowing arena of Euro LCCs. Best of luck to EI.  worried 



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User currently offlineYulguy From Canada, joined Feb 2004, 246 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 7897 times:

Will EI still cooperate with BA on the DUB-LHR route? Or are they cutting ties there too? If so, the competition could get even more fierce.


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User currently offlineKiwiandrew From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 8626 posts, RR: 13
Reply 8, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 7795 times:
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Quoting B742 (Thread starter):
The Dublin based airline will cease with all involvement with other oneworld airlines on the 31st March 2007.

all involvement ?not necessarily - they will cease to be part of OW - but as per the link you provided they will try to keep some one-on-one relationships going - my guess would be with AA and BA as they make the most sense for EIs network



Source: http://www.oneworld.com/ow/news/details?objectID=8613

It is in talks with some other members of oneworld about maintaining some frequent flyer links with them on a one-on-one basis from then. Details will be announced by the individual airlines concerned if and when agreements are reached



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User currently offlineShamrock350 From Ireland, joined Mar 2005, 6373 posts, RR: 14
Reply 9, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 7795 times:

Aer Lingus will keep links with BA and AA. They have started flights to DXB and are doing very well and may start code-shares with EK. They were part privatised this week and are now looking at new aircraft (A350/787/777) a new long-haul product both in Biz and Economy is expected sometime next year.
Things are looking up for EI even with FR after them.


User currently offlineClassicLover From Ireland, joined Mar 2004, 4660 posts, RR: 23
Reply 10, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 7574 times:

Quoting B742 (Thread starter):
Do you guys think EI leaving the alliance is a bad or good move?

It's good because they don't offer European business class. It's bad because they're the only airline between Dublin and London Heathrow, and I use them all the time to connect with BA flights to the rest of the world.

Quoting B742 (Thread starter):
Will EI continue to codeshare with certain airlines such as BA?

Qantas are also keeping involvement with Aer Lingus. About two months ago I e-mailed QF and was told that Aer Lingus would still be a part of the Qantas Frequent Flyer program after they left oneworld.



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User currently offlineCommavia From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 11974 posts, RR: 62
Reply 11, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 7565 times:

While unfortunate, this was to be expected. Aer Lingus was always the smallest and least consequential member of the alliance, and this shouldn't hurt the grouping too much, because as others have stated, many of the carriers will keep bilateral links with Aer Lingus and just about all the airports Aer Lingus serves are served by other alliance members.

User currently offlineA340600 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2003, 4106 posts, RR: 51
Reply 12, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 7529 times:

Oh well, about time, we all expected it, no great loss to One World. Will BA/EI continue connections on the LHR/DUB rotations?

Sam



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User currently offlinePilot21 From Ireland, joined Oct 1999, 1386 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 7487 times:

Quoting ClassicLover (Reply 10):
It's bad because they're the only airline between Dublin and London Heathrow

BMI serve the route (albeit badly at times) and they still have Business Class



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User currently offlineFreedom747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 6789 times:

Maybe they'll join a different group down the road

[Edited 2006-10-01 01:31:15]

User currently offlineVasu From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 3976 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 6629 times:

I think we could see it coming from a long time ago...

... They're a low-fares national carrier. Do you see FR in an alliance?


User currently offlineJAL From Canada, joined Apr 2000, 5093 posts, RR: 8
Reply 16, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 6540 times:

Sad to see them leave but OneWorld will survive!


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User currently offlinePiercey From Sweden, joined Nov 2005, 2233 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 6486 times:

Quoting PlymSpotter (Reply 2):

What I am surprised at is that you say Malev is going to join OneWorld, I hadn't heard that news before, I thought they were firmly part of SkyTeam?

CSA is in SkyTeam, not Malev.



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User currently offlinePlymSpotter From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 11708 posts, RR: 60
Reply 18, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 6378 times:

Quoting Piercey (Reply 17):
CSA is in SkyTeam, not Malev.

Thanks - yeap I checked as well, you can earn miles and spend miles with Malev, which is why I thought they were actually part of it too. Hopefully the miles option will still be available next spring, I was planning to use Malev and partners to fly to China.

Dan Smile



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User currently offlineSmokeyrosco From Ireland, joined Dec 2005, 2112 posts, RR: 13
Reply 19, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 6238 times:

OW was getting more from EI then EI was getting from OW, it's a good move on EI's part and yes they will keep relationships with various airlines in the future. This has been known about for a while I guess there was no firm date set though.

[Edited 2006-10-01 03:44:37]


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User currently offlineBraybuddy From Ireland, joined Aug 2004, 5812 posts, RR: 31
Reply 20, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 5738 times:

I thought they left two years ago.

User currently offlineRootsAir From Costa Rica, joined Feb 2005, 4186 posts, RR: 40
Reply 21, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 5453 times:

EI was certainly One world's weakest link.... i don't think their departure will affect OW as much


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