PlymSpotter From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 11122 posts, RR: 63 Reply 2, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 6177 times:
I can't say this news has surprised me, Aer Lingus are going down the LCC road to try and counter Ryanair. But I think not being in OneWorld could be a bad move for their long haul traffic, especially those connecting through DUB from Europe to America.
What I am surprised at is that you say Malev is going to join OneWorld, I hadn't heard that news before, I thought they were firmly part of SkyTeam?
N31029 From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 101 posts, RR: 2 Reply 5, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 6113 times:
I, for one, will miss them as a part of oneworld.
Having flown a seamless ORD-DUB-SNN-DUB-ORD itinerary this past summer, with the first four segments on EI and the final segment on AA, I found the experience very positive. In fact, due to weather, our originally-planned BOS-SNN segment on AA was delayed and we were confidently re-booked on EI.
I like IE for the people, and, for the superb livery of its aircraft!
However, I must assume that the management team at EI knows more than I do about the future profitability and success of the airline - thus - while sad to see, changes such as these are a part of prudent business planning.
I do hope that EI remains as a player at ORD so that I can plan future trips aboard their comfortable and colorful A330s.
Best wishes to EI and to the wonderful people of Ireland.
Mjlhou From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 154 posts, RR: 4 Reply 6, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 6068 times:
Well, I for one can say, I'll miss seeing the OW logo on the side of their aircraft. Since they claim that the "alliance model" is not what they're working towards a this point in time, I guess it's the right thing for them then. I just hope it works for them!
It seems they are trying to go more of the low cost way. I think most of the low cost carriers have started out as that. It seems that any carriers who have tried to re-invent themselves as an LCC have an extremely hard time doing so. I would say especially in Europe with competitors like Ryanair and EasyJet as well as the evergrowing arena of Euro LCCs. Best of luck to EI.
Don't worry about things you can't change or control
Kiwiandrew From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 8435 posts, RR: 14 Reply 8, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 5883 times:
Quoting B742 (Thread starter): The Dublin based airline will cease with all involvement with other oneworld airlines on the 31st March 2007.
all involvement ?not necessarily - they will cease to be part of OW - but as per the link you provided they will try to keep some one-on-one relationships going - my guess would be with AA and BA as they make the most sense for EIs network
It is in talks with some other members of oneworld about maintaining some frequent flyer links with them on a one-on-one basis from then. Details will be announced by the individual airlines concerned if and when agreements are reached
Moderation in all things ... including moderation ;-)
Shamrock350 From Ireland, joined Mar 2005, 6100 posts, RR: 15 Reply 9, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 5883 times:
Aer Lingus will keep links with BA and AA. They have started flights to DXB and are doing very well and may start code-shares with EK. They were part privatised this week and are now looking at new aircraft (A350/787/777) a new long-haul product both in Biz and Economy is expected sometime next year.
Things are looking up for EI even with FR after them.
ClassicLover From Ireland, joined Mar 2004, 4522 posts, RR: 25 Reply 10, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 5662 times:
Quoting B742 (Thread starter): Do you guys think EI leaving the alliance is a bad or good move?
It's good because they don't offer European business class. It's bad because they're the only airline between Dublin and London Heathrow, and I use them all the time to connect with BA flights to the rest of the world.
Quoting B742 (Thread starter): Will EI continue to codeshare with certain airlines such as BA?
Qantas are also keeping involvement with Aer Lingus. About two months ago I e-mailed QF and was told that Aer Lingus would still be a part of the Qantas Frequent Flyer program after they left oneworld.
I do quite enjoy a spot of flying - more so when it's not in Economy!
Commavia From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 10190 posts, RR: 62 Reply 11, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 5653 times:
While unfortunate, this was to be expected. Aer Lingus was always the smallest and least consequential member of the alliance, and this shouldn't hurt the grouping too much, because as others have stated, many of the carriers will keep bilateral links with Aer Lingus and just about all the airports Aer Lingus serves are served by other alliance members.
Thanks - yeap I checked as well, you can earn miles and spend miles with Malev, which is why I thought they were actually part of it too. Hopefully the miles option will still be available next spring, I was planning to use Malev and partners to fly to China.
Smokeyrosco From Ireland, joined Dec 2005, 2112 posts, RR: 14 Reply 19, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 4326 times:
OW was getting more from EI then EI was getting from OW, it's a good move on EI's part and yes they will keep relationships with various airlines in the future. This has been known about for a while I guess there was no firm date set though.