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Air Canada Turns 70yrs Next Year In April  
User currently offlineAirCanada014 From Canada, joined Oct 2005, 1513 posts, RR: 0
Posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 3737 times:

Hello all,


I know its early to mention this but don't know if anyone realize Air Canada will turn 70yrs next year in April 2007 can't remember the date but I think it was 13th. Anyways whats the chance of a paint scheme on Air Canada's new B777-300ER? Its a good timing for AC to receive their brand new T7s next year. Your comments are appreciate.

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User currently offlineBOE773 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 3712 times:

Do you mean a change from that limp dull toothpaste color?

User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21472 posts, RR: 60
Reply 2, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 3712 times:

Wow, only seven months from now. We need one of these threads every week until then!  Wink


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User currently offlineATLFlyer323 From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 614 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 3702 times:

Quoting AirCanada014 (Thread starter):
know its early to mention this but don't know if anyone realize Air Canada will turn 70yrs next year in April 2007 can't remember the date but I think it was 13th. Anyways whats the chance of a paint scheme on Air Canada's new B777-300ER? Its a good timing for AC to receive their brand new T7s next year. Your comments are appreciate.

Well I sure hope they do! I'm sure it would look very sharp on their T7, even though I already like the mint livery they have now.

Quoting BOE773 (Reply 1):
Do you mean a change from that limp dull toothpaste color?

Hey at least it's not white! (well not the hybrid one's)

~Brandon



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User currently offlineYOW From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 3643 times:

I think you'll probably see another A319 or A320 done up in a special livery. Hopefully the Trans-Canada A319, which was painted for the 60th anniversary will still be in TCA colours. It was supposed to have been repainted last year, but is still in TCA...saw it at YOW a couple of times last week.

70 is another decade on the airline's history, but the 75th in 2012 I think would be the bigger bash to celebrate.


User currently offlineAirCanada014 From Canada, joined Oct 2005, 1513 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 3602 times:

I was only refering to one aircraft not entire fleet.. Yes its possible another A319 or 320 but I thought since their brand new T7s coming in at least one a/c would have a special 70th livery.

User currently offlineANother From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 3590 times:

Quoting AirCanada014 (Thread starter):
Air Canada will turn 70yrs next year in April 2007

How is the 70 years measured? I would have thought that some of their antecedants were established well before 1937. Canadian Airways, for example was flying in the early '30s ...

I would have thought it was closer to 75 years.
-01 21:43:01]

[Edited 2006-10-01 21:43:30]

User currently offlineSalomon From Canada, joined Jun 2006, 205 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 3570 times:

Quoting ANother (Reply 6):
How is the 70 years measured? I would have thought that some of their antecedants were established well before 1937. Canadian Airways, for example was flying in the early '30s ...

Trans Canada Airways flew for the first time on september 1rst 1937. The flight was Vancouver-Seattle using a Lockheed 10A Electra with 10 passengers on board.



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User currently offlineAirCanada014 From Canada, joined Oct 2005, 1513 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 3457 times:

Quoting Salomon (Reply 7):
Trans Canada Airways

It's actually Trans Canada Airlines not Airways


User currently offline320tech From Turks and Caicos Islands, joined May 2004, 491 posts, RR: 5
Reply 9, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 3419 times:

How is the 70 years measured? I would have thought that some of their antecedants were established well before 1937. Canadian Airways, for example was flying in the early '30s ...

Canadian Airways isn't really an Air Canada ancestor. Canadian Airways was purchased by Canadian Pacific in 1942, CP was purchased by Pacific Western in ?? what, 1988? They became Canadian Airlines, which was purchased by AC in 2000. Not much different from calling a DC-3 a Boeing product.



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User currently offlineSLCUT2777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 4028 posts, RR: 11
Reply 10, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 3361 times:

Was AC a better airline prior to 1988 when they were still a Crown Corporation?  stirthepot 


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User currently offlineANother From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 3355 times:

Quoting 320tech (Reply 9):
CP was purchased by Pacific Western in ??

In 1986.

And I was just asking. If you look at the entire history you will see that a number of other Canadian airlines have filtered down to what is now AC.

Transair --> Pacific Western
Nordair, Eastern Provincial --> CP Air
Time Air --> Air BC --> AC
Air Ontario --> AC
etc.


User currently offlineConnies4ever From Canada, joined Feb 2006, 4066 posts, RR: 13
Reply 12, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 3318 times:

Quoting SLCUT2777 (Reply 10):
Was AC a better airline prior to 1988 when they were still a Crown Corporation?

In my view, no. Having grown up in an AC family (my father was in mtce 1944-1975) and as a consumer of air travel now I have a different perspective than many.

Lots of employees viewed their job as an entitlement when it was a Crown. Not so now. Despite what several on A.net (and other discussion groups) might think, I believe AC is far more customer-responsive than it's ever been. There are alternatives now that didn't exist in the 1940s, 50s, and even 60s. At least until CP had decent trans-con operations.

My experience as a traveller, and also having used CP, WS, BA, AF, LH, UA, and CO to name some is that AC is at least as good as all of them in the cabin. JF on longhaul is a real treat, although CP's service in the 80s was really special.

Technically, AC has always been a leader and that has not changed AFAICS.



Nostalgia isn't what it used to be.
User currently offlineSLCUT2777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 4028 posts, RR: 11
Reply 13, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 3269 times:

Quoting Connies4ever (Reply 12):
Lots of employees viewed their job as an entitlement when it was a Crown.

One of the many pitfalls of socialism, too much union manipulation and blackmail.

Quoting Connies4ever (Reply 12):
AC is at least as good as all of them in the cabin.

I would put them in the same league or above most any U.S. legacy, UA, DL, AA, CO and NW (above NW especially!).
I think that there are many who view this as detrimental to their communities getting air service, or at least the level they think they should have. For example Saskatchewan getting AC mainline vs. Jazz is a very hot topic there. And of course on the labor front, the federal NDP as party feels that divesting AC was a mistake, and the government should re-acquire them (Bad Idea).



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User currently offlineAC_B777 From Canada, joined Aug 2000, 809 posts, RR: 13
Reply 14, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 3128 times:

Found this enhancement for the airlines 70th at Modified Airliner Photos. Taken from what USAirways has done with their fleet.
Looks nice to see how all the different liveries would look on the A319.
http://www.cardatabase.net/modifieda...earch/photo_search.php?id=00007688



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User currently offlineBmacleod From Canada, joined Aug 2001, 2241 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 3020 times:

Funny how just 3 years ago some were talking about the 'death' of AC after SARS and possibility of WS taking over....

A great airline nonetheless and I am a proud supporter and passenger!!!  bigthumbsup 



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User currently offlineRobsawatsky From Canada, joined Dec 2003, 597 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2952 times:

Hmmm, I thought Air Canada was only 2 years old, having been incorporated in 2004? Yes, I know the history goes back to 1937 discounting crown-privatization and restructuring as part of the new entity ACE. But it serves to point out that the airline business is high-risk for investors in Canada.

User currently offlineDstc47 From Ireland, joined Sep 1999, 1461 posts, RR: 3
Reply 17, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2937 times:

Aer Lingus, who were already 70 years old this year, splashed out with a very small exterior sticker by the main door, to commemorate the anniversary. If you walk down the jetway, it was visible for a second as you boarded.

There was also a relatively short article in the inflight magazine giving a (selective) history decade by decade. Airlines seem to be getting out of the nostalgia business.


User currently offlineYOW From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 2831 times:

Quoting AC_B777 (Reply 14):
Found this enhancement for the airlines 70th at Modified Airliner Photos. Taken from what USAirways has done with their fleet.
Looks nice to see how all the different liveries would look on the A319.
http://www.cardatabase.net/modifieda...07688

Have a look at the lovely red and white roundel and cheatline. How many here actually think toothpaste looks better than this classic?

Quoting Dstc47 (Reply 17):
Airlines seem to be getting out of the nostalgia business.

I wouldn't say so. Look at Aloha and their awesome retro-jet Fun Bird or US Airways' heritage A319 liveries. I think it all depends on the airline.

Quoting Robsawatsky (Reply 16):
Hmmm, I thought Air Canada was only 2 years old, having been incorporated in 2004?

ACE, the airline's parent company is only 2 years old. The airline itself is still 69.


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