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New Pax Arrangement To Include Standing...?  
User currently offlineQXRamperMEII From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 93 posts, RR: 1
Posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 3375 times:

This seems way too absurd to be true, but I thought I would throw it out there anyway. I overheard a conversation between a flight crew I was working with about some sort of new passenger arrangement in which they are standing (still buckled in with a four-point type harness)...this would be used in short-haul, high density routes to increase pax capacity...

As I said, it seemed too wierd to be true, but they had both heard of it, and seemed adamant about it being correct. Any thoughts, ideas, rumors, etc?

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User currently offlineOsiris30 From Barbados, joined Sep 2006, 3192 posts, RR: 25
Reply 1, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 3370 times:

Quoting QXRamperMEII (Thread starter):
This seems way too absurd to be true, but I thought I would throw it out there anyway. I overheard a conversation between a flight crew I was working with about some sort of new passenger arrangement in which they are standing (still buckled in with a four-point type harness)...this would be used in short-haul, high density routes to increase pax capacity...

As I said, it seemed too wierd to be true, but they had both heard of it, and seemed adamant about it being correct. Any thoughts, ideas, rumors, etc?

Correct or otherwise I will NEVER fly on any carrier that has 'standing-room' on ANY of their flights ANYWHERE in the world.



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User currently offlineMjlhou From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 154 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 3354 times:

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/business/267888_seats25.html

I heard rumor of it too....this summer in fact. It looks like Airbus had dismissed this idea early along though.



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User currently offlineTrekster From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 3341 times:

There have been a few threads regarding this. Its a new type of seat someone has designed. Do a search and you should get the info.

Dan


User currently offlineCentrair From Japan, joined Jan 2005, 3599 posts, RR: 20
Reply 4, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 3281 times:

Back in the days of the Soviet, didn't SV have standing room? I remember seeing a picture very very long time ago where there were rings like on subways hanging off the overhead compartments.

Couldn't this standing room only system be good for Ryanair? They could make the entire back of the seat/table a commercial space. For added safety, arm straps and head straps. Optional "Lector" mask and inflight meal of Liver and Fava beans.



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User currently offlinePhoenixflyer From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 81 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 3226 times:

There was a story about standing "seats" on Airbus aircraft in the NY Times over the summer. From what I remember Airbus denied they seriously considered it just after the story was published.

User currently offlineYabeweb From Italy, joined Jun 2006, 37 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 3196 times:

Airbus is conducting studes... will it ever see a real application??.. i seriously oubt that.. but that does not stop studiieing possibilities..

User currently offlineMjlhou From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 154 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 3109 times:

Quoting Phoenixflyer (Reply 5):
There was a story about standing "seats" on Airbus aircraft in the NY Times over the summer. From what I remember Airbus denied they seriously considered it just after the story was published.

I published a link quoting the NY times....also said they abandoned their idea though.



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User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19259 posts, RR: 52
Reply 8, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 3091 times:

Quoting Centrair (Reply 4):
Couldn't this standing room only system be good for Ryanair?

I knew it wouldn't take long... reply 4. Not bad.  Silly



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User currently offlineAlexPorter From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 3056 times:

Quoting Centrair (Reply 4):
Optional "Lector" mask and inflight meal of Liver and Fava beans.

Chianti for $5.


User currently offlineRemcor From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 358 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 3029 times:

Quoting Centrair (Reply 4):
Back in the days of the Soviet, didn't SV have standing room? I remember seeing a picture very very long time ago where there were rings like on subways hanging off the overhead compartments.



Quoting Phoenixflyer (Reply 5):
There was a story about standing "seats" on Airbus aircraft in the NY Times over the summer

In that case Airbus would literally be an Air-Bus.

Exact change please.


User currently offlineLTBEWR From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13200 posts, RR: 15
Reply 11, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 2883 times:

This would be so unacceptable to anybody that it can never come true, even on Ryanair. It's bad enough on a bus or train to be standing while traveling, but a aircraft - not going to happen. I wonder if the Airbus idea was part of an elaborate April Fool Joke.

User currently offlineTod From Denmark, joined Aug 2004, 1729 posts, RR: 3
Reply 12, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 2836 times:

It is a stupid and unrealistic concept.
The overhead structure required to facilitate a standing pax restaint system would add weight and cost. Additional doors may be required to facilitate emergency evac, even more weight and cost. After all the weight is added it would be unlikely that you could carry any more pax than with normal seats.

Tod


User currently offlineQXRamperMEII From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 93 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 2639 times:

Thanks for the responses...I read the provided articles; I did do a search on the topic prior to posting but didn't find anything. I agree it's a crazy concept, but I'm relieved to see it was an actual idea. I halfway figured I was getting joked with the entire time.

I saw the Ryanair references...I'm surprised that I'd be the first one talking about how much WN would love such a pax config...


User currently offlineJasond From Australia, joined Jul 2009, 23 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 2548 times:

Airbus did in fact study this idea. I have a graphic of what it looks like in my data library somewhere from several months ago so I have seen the idea. The 'seats' aren't exactly vertical as they do have a slight recline but as a concept it is appallingly close to standing no question about it.

User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19259 posts, RR: 52
Reply 15, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 2487 times:

I'd happily and instantly give it a go: it'd be fun.


"Everyone writing for the Telegraph knows that the way to grab eyeballs is with Ryanair and/or sex."
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