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User currently offlinePlanesailing From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 816 posts, RR: 0
Posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 2551 times:

Did anyone else know of aircraft having airbags, similar to those found in cars?

A UK programme on BBC2, Horizons, covered the topic in the episode "Survivors Guide to Plane Crashes" this evening.

Apparently the following are fitted with such devices:

Airline Aircraft Type
Air Atlantic BAE J41
Air Canada A319-112, A320-214, A321-211, A340-500, 767, A330, A340
Air Nostrum CRJ900
Atlantic Coast Airlines BAE J41
Atlas Air CRJ700
Cathay Pacific/ILFC A340-600
Air New Zealand 747-400, 777-200ER
Virgin Atlantic Airways 747-400, A340-600, A340-300
Cyprus Airways A330-200
Emirates A340-500
Antonov AN-148
Iberia A340-600
Kenya Airways 777-200ER
ILFC/Airbus A340-600
Lufthansa City Line CRJ700
Maersk/Duo Air CRJ700
Manx Airlines BAE J41
Origin Pacific Airways BAE J41
Shandong Airlines CRJ700
South African Airlink BAE J41
South African Airways A340-600
Sun Air BAE J41
Trans States Airlines BAE J41

More can be found here: www.bbc.co.uk/horizons

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User currently offlineUAL757 From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 806 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 2550 times:

WHAT? Airbags in a plane? I've never heard of this before.  Confused
Have any of you guys heard of this before?


User currently offlinePlanesailing From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 816 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 2550 times:

A surprise to me also.

The manufacturers website: http://www.amsafeaviation.com/inflatable.htm

It is installed in the lap belt and firers up in the event of a crash.


User currently offlinePlainsmart From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 2480 times:

I did a research paper on them last spring, and it is a pretty cool technology. Unfortunately they're also pretty expensive, especially when you have to outfit an entire airliner. They'll probably do more good in light aircraft, but I'd feel better using an airline that supplied them.

User currently offlineOsiris30 From Barbados, joined Sep 2006, 3192 posts, RR: 25
Reply 4, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 2461 times:

Quoting Plainsmart (Reply 3):
They'll probably do more good in light aircraft, but I'd feel better using an airline that supplied them.

Bah.. like they would do any good smacking into the ground at 300mph! Seriously, if you're walking away from a crash, then you're walking away from it with our without those things IMHO. Otherwise you're a gonner regardless. Plus water about a water ditch. Last thing I want is some airbag in my way causing me to drown.



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User currently offlineUAL747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 2461 times:

Mes Chers.....

A bag of air ain't going to do nothing when you hit the ground or water at 200MPH in a titanium tube with tons of fuel to burn.

UAL


User currently offlineNZ560 From New Zealand, joined May 2006, 240 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 2452 times:

NZ have them in their Business seats.


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User currently offlineNeilYYZ From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 2437 times:

I've been on many an Air Canada A319, A320, A321, A330 and 767, and honestly, I've never seen any evidence of them. This being said, I don't care either way, when you hit the ground at 500km/h, what is an airbag going to do for you really? And the crash position has you face down with the head in the knees does it not?

User currently offlinePlainsmart From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 2398 times:

The airbag isn't supposed to and won't do anything to help you when you crash into the ground at 300 kts. The real benefit is for the lesser impacts, such as those encountered when a plane runs off the end of the runway. The airbag will prevent you from smashing your face into the seat in front of you, thus preventing you from losing consciousness (hopefully). There have been lots of deaths of people who survive an impact only to be killed by toxic smoke and fumes because they couldn't evacuate the aircraft.

By the way, they deflate quickly just like an automobile airbag. These things aren't going to prevent you from escaping.


User currently offlineBriboy From Canada, joined Jul 2001, 366 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 2397 times:

Hi.

Saw these in an AC319, with the new-ish green seats. They were used in the first row of economy only, as there was a panel in front of us (behind executive class). It was great as no babies or young children are allowed to sit in seats with them, so no crying beside you  Smile

/Brian



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User currently offlineMarkHKG From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 960 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 2383 times:

Quoting NeilYYZ (Reply 7):
I've been on many an Air Canada A319, A320, A321, A330 and 767, and honestly, I've never seen any evidence of them.

They are typically installed on bulkhead rows, in order to meet headstrike requirements. The BBC Horizons program failed to mention that although they may be installed on certain aircraft, they may only be installed on certain rows.

Amsafe's design is particularly interesting since adopting the brace position will not interfere with the inflation of the air bag. The air bag can also be easily disabled for use with a child seat or when there is a lap child.



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User currently offlineLredlefsen From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 151 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 2362 times:

Quoting Planesailing (Thread starter):
Did anyone else know of aircraft having airbags, similar to those found in cars?

Old news -- they're usually stored in pouches under your seat.  Wink


User currently offlineAndz From South Africa, joined Feb 2004, 8453 posts, RR: 10
Reply 12, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 2263 times:
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Quoting Planesailing (Thread starter):
South African Airways A340-600

I have experience of these and they are awful. They are fitted in the seatbelt of the bulkhead row and overwing exit row seats (only AC and HK for some weird reason) and they negate the usual comfort advantage these seats offer. The belt becomes very bulky with the airbag, so much so that it is difficult to have the tray table deployed while wearing the belt, and if you take it off it doesn't fit into the seat beside you. Horrible.



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User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21626 posts, RR: 55
Reply 13, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 2073 times:

Some light planes (C172, P28A, etc.) are equipped with airbags that pop out of the seatbelts, but I've yet to see them on a commercial airliner.

-Mir



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User currently offline747hogg From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 2053 times:

Oh Jeez! I thought this thred was about the elderly flight attendants on some trans pac NWA route!

User currently offlineSevenair From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2001, 1728 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 1961 times:

Hey, I did a quick search for the safety cards of the afore mentioned airlines/aircraft, but there was no mention of them in the safety cards. Good idea though!

User currently offlineMarkHKG From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 960 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 1949 times:

Apparently, no airlines have specific recommendations posted on their Airline Safety cards except for (to my knowledge) Air New Zealand. Air New Zealand recommends passengers that are seated in air-bag equipped seats to adopt a different brace position to allow for airbag deployment.


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