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330/350 Visable Difference  
User currently offlineKeego From Ireland, joined Jan 2006, 190 posts, RR: 0
Posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days ago) and read 1938 times:

As the title suggests is there any visible differences between the A330 & the A350? i.e. if it flew over head would it be easily identfiable, from the pictures of the 350 it doesnt look like there is.

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User currently offlineBobnwa From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 6346 posts, RR: 9
Reply 1, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 1832 times:

Will hold up on my answer until there is A350 to look at.

User currently offlineAirCop From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 1769 times:

Quoting Bobnwa (Reply 1):
Will hold up on my answer until there is A350 to look at.

Right! One could say the 350 is invisible to the naked eye.


User currently offlineKilljoy From Finland, joined Dec 1999, 646 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 1727 times:

You're looking at the old pictures. The A350XBW doesn't look like the A330 at all.

User currently offlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 29689 posts, RR: 84
Reply 4, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 1720 times:
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It's probably going to be somewhat like the 767 to 777. While a "trained eye" can easily discern the differences, things like the extra doors, the different tailcones and the larger rear bogies helped me identify the two when the 777 first entered service.

The A350's biggest visual difference (when flying overhead) should be the wingtips.


User currently offlineDeltaDAWG From United States of America, joined May 2006, 743 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 1620 times:

Right now the 350 XWWBBWBWXX??? is a stealth aircraft! No one knows for sure what it will look like or if it will even come into existence.

Wait and see.



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User currently offlineGrantcv From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 429 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 1587 times:

The original A350 looked just like the A330 because that's what it was - an updated A330. Over time the design evolved to have a mildly different nose with a 4 pane flight deck window configuration rather than 6 (just like the B787!) and some other recontouring to provide room for a crew rest area.

The really all new this time A350XWB is less defined, but a few more changes are apparently in store (aside from the wider than the B787 fuselage but narrower than the B777 fuselage thing). The wings will feature upturned maybe raked wingtip (similar to the B787, but with a more pronounced upturn at the end). The cabin windows will be larger (just like the B787). The tail end of the fuselage appears to adopt a different design whereby the top side angles down to the end rather than the remaining flat (similar to the B767 and once again, just like the B787). And the new flight design window design seems vague, but suggests that the outer windows will drop down for some reason (probably so that the XWB won't look exactly like a B787 clone).

However, the current XWB illustrations may have been designed by the sales & marketing folks rather than the engineering folks (just like the B7E7 Dreamliner concept) - so the end result, if it ever happens, may be quite different.


User currently offlineShamrock350 From Ireland, joined Mar 2005, 6279 posts, RR: 14
Reply 7, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 1472 times:

The A350XWB as it is now, looks like a larger 787 with a slightly different nose shape and a tail that looks just like your average Airbus tail but slopes downwards. What I like about the XWB is it's wings, they look like a type of blended winglet that rake backwards and upwards even on the ground unlike the 787 which only has raked wingtips that flex in the air and on take-off.
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User currently offlineSteeler83 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 9112 posts, RR: 18
Reply 8, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 1432 times:

Quoting Stitch (Reply 4):
It's probably going to be somewhat like the 767 to 777. While a "trained eye" can easily discern the differences, things like the extra doors, the different tailcones and the larger rear bogies helped me identify the two when the 777 first entered service.

And don't forget the engines...

But coming back to the A350/330/B787 discussion tho, yes, when first launched, the A350 did look like the A330, reasons already stated. I do have to say that the latest developments regarding the A350XWB do have this thing looking like a different aircraft. It now looks more or less like a 787, but probably a hair more advanced than the Boeing competitor.

Quoting Shamrock350 (Reply 7):
What I like about the XWB is it's wings, they look like a type of blended winglet that rake backwards and upwards even on the ground unlike the 787 which only has raked wingtips that flex in the air and on take-off.

So what you are saying here is that the wing tip on the 787 is flat until airborn, while that of the A350 will be an actual blended wing tip? I sure hope that US will get this bird in time, but they seem rather content despite these delays... Still, the A350 looks like a pretty neat development and I hope it gets off the ground...



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User currently offlineShamrock350 From Ireland, joined Mar 2005, 6279 posts, RR: 14
Reply 9, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 1406 times:

Quoting Steeler83 (Reply 8):
So what you are saying here is that the wing tip on the 787 is flat until airborn, while that of the A350 will be an actual blended wing tip?

While I was at the Farnborough Airshow, Boeing had a video of the 787 taking off, in-flight and landing. The wing looked just like a 777-300ER until it lifted into the air and it started to flex like nothing I have ever seen. The A350 also had a short video on its Farnborough site that showed it joining the rest of the Airbus fleet and it's wing curved up at the end just like a blended winglet. How long will this image last, I'm not sure.


User currently offlineKeego From Ireland, joined Jan 2006, 190 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 1270 times:

Quoting Killjoy (Reply 3):
You're looking at the old pictures.

You're right I was, I was at Farnborough this year and dont know how I forgot the changes. It looks more like a 787 now Big grin

Suppose we wont really know until it actually exists.


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