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User currently offlineAio86 From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 928 posts, RR: 0
Posted (14 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 1054 times:

I realized something a little while ago. There are only 5 important international airlines that fly to Nepal, Austrian, Air India, Royal Nepal, Thai and Singapore. Why don't more airlines fly to this important tourist destination. I wish that someone like JAL or ANA would fly there. To get there from LA you have to make 2 connections, in Tokyo/Osaka/Taipei/Hong Kong (If you connected on Cathay Pacific/Northwest or United) and in Singapore/Bangkok for someone on the east coast they could connect in Delhi, Frankfurt (Royal Nepal flies there) or Vienna. But for us on the west coast it's a pain. Is it that the Kathmandu airport is too small? No I doubt it since Lauda used to fly 777s there before Austrian took over with 767s. ANA could fly 767s their, maybe Cathay Pacific could send a 330 there? Any responses would be apreciated. By the way did anyone realize that three of the five airlines that fly their are in Star- Alliance; Thai, Singapore & Austrian!  
-Aaron, LAX


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User currently offlineFlumuc From Germany, joined Oct 1999, 392 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (14 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 1040 times:

Condor flies a weekly B757-200 from Munich via Sharjah to Kathmandu

Flumuc
fly.to/munich-airport


User currently offlineCV990A From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 1428 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (14 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 1028 times:

I think its a question of being able to support the flight long-term with acceptable passenger loads. Just how high is the demand for flights to Nepal anyway?


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User currently offlineJaseWGTN From New Zealand, joined Mar 2000, 823 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (14 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 1015 times:

Aio86.

Please don't take this as being rude when I say it, but the airlines when they do their schedules don't think we have to make it easier for the Americans from the West Coast to get there. They do their routes for a profit.

Lufthansa flew there until last year also, but pulled out due to low profits.

Jase


User currently offlineJaseWGTN From New Zealand, joined Mar 2000, 823 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (14 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 1012 times:

Also, I have just noticed that Gulf Air and Aeroflot also fly there too. Would you not consider them important?

Jase


User currently offlineB747-437B From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (14 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 1012 times:

Umm... Air India DOES NOT serve KTM and never has.

User currently offlineJaseWGTN From New Zealand, joined Mar 2000, 823 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (14 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 1001 times:

747-437B:

I think he may have mean't Indian Airlines

Jase


User currently offlineGardermoen From Australia, joined Jul 1999, 1523 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (14 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 979 times:

Dragonair have announced they will soon resume Hong Kong-Kathmandu flights with a twice weeky A330 service.
I do know Martinair flies charters there with 767s from Amsterdam.
From what I read in some article, I think the runway at KTM cannot handle such large aircraft as 747s, so many long haul airlines do not fly there.
PIA Also fly there twice weekly from Karachi, and also important is the DAILY A300 service from Doha on Qatar Airways. This is an important link as it connects with its flights to London and Munich.


User currently offlineAmir From Syria, joined Dec 1999, 1254 posts, RR: 11
Reply 8, posted (14 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 977 times:

Hi,

Though Katmandu is a great destination, most of the traffic Outbound/inbound is of touristic nature. This means very low yields. Beside this, the traffic volume -seen from a european point of origin, where most of the Nepal tourists come from- doesn't support a daily operation, rather a 4/5 weekly roundtrips with an A310/A300 or 757/767. All this makes a KTM operation a very costly one for regular european airlines. Many have tried it and finally gave it up. But meanwhile the gulf carriers have filled the gap by offering good flights and of course excellent conex to Europe via their hubs. As Gardermoen mentioned QR (Qatar Airways) is the new airline to KTM with good conex via DOH to LHR, MUC (tie up with LH!!!).

viva KTM!
Amir


User currently offlineHkgspotter1 From Hong Kong, joined Nov 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (14 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 974 times:

Austrian 767's ???????

User currently offlineGardermoen From Australia, joined Jul 1999, 1523 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (14 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 967 times:

Lauda Air operates the 767s into Kathmandu.

User currently offlineAirbus A3XX From Australia, joined May 1999, 507 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (14 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 962 times:

I think Dragonair is only going to fly a A320 there.
Also, I think Austrian USED to fly to Kathmandu but now Lauda AIr took over that and flies a 767(I think the flight stops at Delhi?).


User currently offlineGardermoen From Australia, joined Jul 1999, 1523 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (14 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 962 times:

Lauda Air is going to be taking over most of Austrians long haul "tourist" routes, namely Kathmandu, Delhi, Colombo and Maldives.

User currently offlineJaysit From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (14 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 955 times:

My understanding is that Thai and Singapore offer the best connections via their hubs. If you're flying from the West Coast you change planes only once. How hard is that to do? You board a 744 in LA or SFO, hang around Changi or BKK for a few hours and then board an Airbus to KTM.

The demand for flights into KTM is very seasonal. Also, the bulk of tourists into KTM are Indian, or Europeans who combine their Nepal jaunt with a trip to India. THere are a gazillion flights to India. From Delhi you can hop onto half a dozen daily flights to KTM.

Western carriers are not going to dedicate long haul wide-bodies to twice weekly routes filled with backpackers. The reason Gulf carriers offer daily flights into KTM is because of the big labor pool that Nepal provides.


User currently offlineAirbus A3XX From Australia, joined May 1999, 507 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (14 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 951 times:

I think if you take Thai or SIA from the west coast, you would still need at least two stops:
SQ:
SFO-HKG-SIN-KTM
LAX-TPE-SIN-KTM

TG
SFO/LAX-Japan-BKK-KTM


User currently offlineJaysit From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (14 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 946 times:

yes, but its a direct flight to bkk or sin.

Or else you can wait until 2004 when SQ have west coast non-stops to Singapore on their Airbus A340-500s.

Until then, 2 stops to Nepal is a pretty good way to go, considering that in 1980 you probably had to make 6 stops and a night's layover in Delhi. Only primary markets merit non-stops or one-stop flights, especially if geographic or economic constraints state otherwise.


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