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Boeing Updates Its Orders Page  
User currently offlineKatekebo From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 704 posts, RR: 6
Posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 13405 times:

723 net orders - 57 up from last week's 666 !!!!
41 B747 on order now. Looks like the aftermath of the A380 delays is starting to show up faster than expected.

Isn't it nice to see some good aviation news ?!!!

[Edited 2006-10-05 18:57:04]

93 replies: All unread, showing first 25:
 
User currently offlineUAL747-600 From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 582 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 13392 times:

For us lazy ones. 13 747's!! Is the I-version ordered?

http://active.boeing.com/commercial/orders/index.cfm

UAL747-600


User currently offlineDLPMMM From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 3592 posts, RR: 10
Reply 2, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 13278 times:

There are now 3 units listed as 747 BBJs and 14 747s as Unidentified.

Interesting.


User currently offlineDogfighter2111 From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 1968 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 13273 times:

hmm....

Cathay Pacific Airways have 6 orders for B747 but I really don't know if this is B744, B744F or B748i.

There are also 14 Unidentified B748i orders, so... Maybe we will see a few PAX orders for B748i  Smile

Thanks
Mike


User currently offlineColumba From Germany, joined Dec 2004, 7063 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 13236 times:

Quoting Dogfighter2111 (Reply 3):
There are also 14 Unidentified B748i orders,

I doubt this is LH because 14 would be a weird number for them.



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User currently offlineN328KF From United States of America, joined May 2004, 6484 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 13173 times:

I wonder what this Unidentified Airlines livery looks like.


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User currently offlineTradewindL1011 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 179 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 13050 times:

Quoting Dogfighter2111 (Reply 3):
There are also 14 Unidentified B748i orders, so... Maybe we will see a few PAX orders for B748i

How do we know that all 14 are 748I and not F orders?

Has Boeing completely stoped taking orders for the 744? Lastly, the 1 Unidentified order before was a 748I and thought to be a VIP, was it therefore moved to the 3 BBJ or is it still part of the 14 total? Also note the further 787 BBJs..................interesting.


User currently offlineTrex8 From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 4768 posts, RR: 14
Reply 7, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 13036 times:
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Quoting TradewindL1011 (Reply 6):
Has Boeing completely stoped taking orders for the 744?

the last 744 orders were supposedly CXs 6 freighters


User currently offlineN844AA From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1352 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 13035 times:

Quoting TradewindL1011 (Reply 6):
How do we know that all 14 are 748I and not F orders?

Has Boeing completely stoped taking orders for the 744?

I don't think we do know that, and they have. They sold the last 744 production slot earlier this year. I can't recall off the top of my head to whom.



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User currently offlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 30977 posts, RR: 86
Reply 9, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 12992 times:
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Quoting TradewindL1011 (Reply 6):
Has Boeing completely stoped taking orders for the 744?

Yes. All 747-400 production slots (of any model) are now filled and only 747-8 model sales will be taken.

So these 14 UFOs have to be 747-8's, be they I's or F's. If three are BBJs, that makes four 748I orders so far, at minimum.


User currently offlineMCOflyer From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 8675 posts, RR: 15
Reply 10, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 12957 times:

My guess is EK.

MCOflyer



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User currently offlineDogfighter2111 From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 1968 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 12933 times:

Quoting TradewindL1011 (Reply 6):
How do we know that all 14 are 748I and not F orders?

Heya,

Sorry I meant to say B744 their. I was thinking B748i at the time...lol

Anyway, only time will tell.

Thanks
Mike


User currently offlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 30977 posts, RR: 86
Reply 12, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 12937 times:
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Quoting MCOflyer (Reply 10):
My guess is EK.

It's possible. EK has 10 777 options, right? Easy enough to convert them to 748I's. EK has known for at least a week or so that the A380 could see a new delay, so they may have contacted Boeing and noted "we might want to convert our options across families. Make us an offer." Perhaps they also are behind the three new 748I BBJs?


User currently offlineJacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 59
Reply 13, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 12944 times:

41 747 orders for 2006...just AMAZING!!!  Wow!


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User currently offlineTradewindL1011 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 179 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 12892 times:

I'm curious to see how many orders are October vs. September orders. When Boeing releases the September results in the next few weeks, I suppose we will know something more of these 747s as well as all those other BBJs and unidentifieds for all the other models.

~Trades


User currently offlineLTU932 From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 13864 posts, RR: 50
Reply 15, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 12831 times:

Quoting Dogfighter2111 (Reply 3):
Cathay Pacific Airways have 6 orders for B747 but I really don't know if this is B744, B744F or B748i.

I believe those are six orders for 747-400ERFs.


User currently offlineExpress1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 12827 times:

Quoting N328KF (Reply 5):

Its nothing to do with the airlines livery at all,its to do with a airline that's put forward an order but wishes to be unidentified until further notice.
thats what i think, but, i could be wrong,and someone will quote me,no doubt

dave


User currently offlinePHKLM From Northern Mariana Islands, joined Dec 2005, 1198 posts, RR: 2
Reply 17, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 12831 times:

Cool, 6 more orders for the 767! To me, the 767 is still the best bird in the skies.

User currently offlineTeamAmerica From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 1761 posts, RR: 23
Reply 18, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 12793 times:

Quoting N328KF (Reply 5):
I wonder what this Unidentified Airlines livery looks like.

White over white, with a distinctive white cheat line. Everybody knows that.  Smile



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User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5756 posts, RR: 47
Reply 19, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 12707 times:

Quoting TeamAmerica (Reply 18):
White over white, with a distinctive white cheat line. Everybody knows that

Along with a colorful white tail!



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User currently offlineQatarA340 From Qatar, joined May 2006, 1831 posts, RR: 6
Reply 20, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 12691 times:

Quoting N328KF (Reply 5):
I wonder what this Unidentified Airlines livery looks like.

It looks cool, actually just like QR's livery  Wink



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User currently offlinePHKLM From Northern Mariana Islands, joined Dec 2005, 1198 posts, RR: 2
Reply 21, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 12655 times:

Quoting TeamAmerica (Reply 18):
White over white, with a distinctive white cheat line. Everybody knows that.

True, except for the large white letters "UNIDENTIFIED AIRLINES" at the sides.


User currently offlinePhollingsworth From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2004, 825 posts, RR: 5
Reply 22, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 12655 times:

Quoting PHKLM (Reply 21):
True, except for the large white letters "UNIDENTIFIED AIRLINES" at the sides.

I think we should start an airline name Unidentified Airlines, and call all of our planes Unidentified Flying Objects


User currently offlinePHKLM From Northern Mariana Islands, joined Dec 2005, 1198 posts, RR: 2
Reply 23, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 12621 times:

Quoting Phollingsworth (Reply 22):
I think we should start an airline name Unidentified Airlines, and call all of our planes Unidentified Flying Objects

I reckon Unidentified Flying Orders does fit this thread better

[Edited 2006-10-05 20:24:59]

User currently offlineGhost77 From Mexico, joined Mar 2000, 5222 posts, RR: 51
Reply 24, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 12623 times:

Quoting PHKLM (Reply 21):
True, except for the large white letters "UNIDENTIFIED AIRLINES" at the sides.

Looong live to the Eurowhite livery!!!

g77 APM



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25 Post contains images DfwRevolution : Program total for the 747 now stands at 1,469 for those interested. More than the DC-9, MD-80/90, or 737-200. Not bad for a bird drafted by hand in t
26 Columba : Bad comparision with the 737-200. Because the 747 is also build in various different versions and has seen many updates.
27 Shenzhen : Maybe Airbus ordered the 747s to provide to airlines as interim lift until the A380s can be delivered. Sorry, couldn't resist. Cheers
28 LY777 : I am so glad for Boeing!!!
29 MCOflyer : I thought of that and wonder if EK or QR ordered a 748BBJ. I'm not sure, but I know Boeing would give them a rockbottom deal meaing whole sale price
30 Dogfighter2111 : Ahhh... makes sense. Cheers! Mike
31 Wahoo : When do SQ's 20 787s show up?
32 Post contains images Stitch : Actually it just says "Airplane" and there is a barcode on the tail.
33 NYC777 : Probably on next weeks update. They probably didn't sign it in time for inclusion on this weeks list.
34 Zvezda : Wow! At this rate Boeing would sell about 960 for the calendar year. The B767 orders are particularly surprising.
35 Lumberton : This is what really struck me as interesting. Could it be that the shortage of WB's, new or lease, is resulting in 767 orders? Most likely, they are
36 ClassicLover : hahaha! Well, I hope they break 1,000.
37 N328KF : So now we have a huge YTD sales disparity between Boeing and Airbus. The funny thing is, if Airbus booked orders using Boeing's method, they'd have si
38 ClassicLover : How do you figure that? Boeing only put signed orders on their web page...
39 Ikramerica : Me too. Too bad B doesn't take the 748i bleed-air genx engines and adapt them to the 763 for a 5000nm jet. It's one size smaller than the 788 and the
40 DAYflyer : Who would order a 767 at this late stage of the airframes life??
41 Katekebo : He's referring to the way in which Airbus "extended" year 2005 until February 2006 to inflate 2005 numbers and beat Boeing in the total orders number
42 SNATH : Airlines with relatively new B767s who need top-ups and don't want to introduce a new type? Cargo airlines? Tony
43 Travelin man : A 748 BBJ. It must be nice to have more money than God........ Can you imagine the sales process? Airplane salesman: "We have a nice Citation X over h
44 ClassicLover : Thanks for that - I totally thought he was inferring that Boeing are doing the accounting a la Airbus late last year. How I remember that...
45 Ikramerica : I actually wrote that into a movie script a few years ago. These guys won a huge lottery, and they got a small jet, but then they wanted to go into s
46 SFORunner : What about the floor mats?
47 Zvezda : If we count both manufacturers' sales using the Airbus counting methodology, then Boeing sold more airliners in 2005. If we count both manufacturers'
48 DeltaDC9 : Boeing announced a 50% increase in 747 production rate earlier this year. They plan on going from approx 12 a year to 18. When you guys are saying the
49 Travelin man : Floor mats extra.
50 Zvezda : Boeing could increase production to about four per month. From Boeing's perspective, a backlog of 4 to 6 years is good. It mean high prices and predi
51 Post contains links AirTranTUS : Airbus doesn't have a Orders page like Boeing's. They just have a chart that shows total ordered, total delivered, and total in operation. I wanted to
52 Ahdharia : why is NWA not on this list? They did order the Boeing 787. They are supposed to be the US Launch for the 787?
53 Beech19 : According to my father-in-law (747 final assembly, Power tool setup) they are moving from a 20 day to a 14 day rate and then moving from 14 to a 10 r
54 Beech19 : Because they did not order those 787's during the 2006 year. That order was made in May of 2005.
55 N328KF : That was last year.
56 Boeing nut : I wouldn't get to excited over this people. It's probably more options cashed in for more freighters. Hope I'm wrong though.
57 Post contains images Jacobin777 : Goes to show the brilliance of Joe Sutter and the Boeing team....!! It should be coming in the books fairly soon I would imagine, as its no longer a
58 Beech19 : I don't know about you but 14 x 747-8 (they aren't taking orders for 744's anymore) and 3 x 748BBJ's whether they are frieghters or pax is still exci
59 Boeing nut : You gotta good point there.
60 Boeing7478i : JumboJet outsells T7 2:1 this year (almost). Truly amaizing.
61 PolymerPlane : Especially when you can make 2 to 3 times profit on BBJ compared to commercial sales. Cheers, PP
62 Post contains images Beech19 : Absolutley! All the jacuzzis, batting cages, leather couches and flat screen TV's. LOL
63 Post contains images AndrewUber : Kinda like this? (taken when Shuttle America was flying US routes with birds in UA colors!!): Drew
64 STT757 : Im thinking a cargo/parcel company like UPS, DHL/ABX or an airline like ATA, North American or World Airways. I could see some 767-400s heading to AT
65 Post contains links MCIGuy : UPDATE: Seattle Times [Edited 2006-10-06 01:16:33]
66 Zvezda : I would have been surprised if it had been the other way around. The "new all-new" A350 is a better airliner than the B777 while the Boeing SuperJumb
67 KC135TopBoom : I wonder what a fully loaded B-747-800IBBJ goes for? Can I get one financed for 60 months at 0.0% from Ford Credit, now, or do I have to wait for Ford
68 STT757 : UPS for both?
69 Zvezda : That's as good a hypothesis as any. UPS could really use 14 SuperJumbos.
70 2wingtips : Have read reports from other boards that the order is for 2 customers, all 748Fs, split 10/4. I'd say EK Skycargo for the 10 and ? for the 4.
71 SonicAirlines : Very interesting nett order figures. Airbus 222 orders. 186 Narrowbodies. 36 Widebodies. Boeing 723 orders. 539 Narrowbodies. 184 Widebodies.
72 N1786b : Right below it, you will see "For a complete table of this month's Orders and Deliveries, click here" to open an excel spreadsheet with all the infor
73 Post contains images Iwok : For those of you who said "the 747 and 767 are dead"..... So long suckers! iwok
74 Zvezda : Can one get that for an arbitrary month? Boeing's user defined reports are very powerful and easy to use. I'd like to see something similar from Airb
75 PanAm_DC10 : No, tell me which month you need and I'll post it Regards, PanAm_DC10
76 AirTranTUS : No, it doesn't tell me the quantity of an aircraft type ordered that month by airline and the YTD total.
77 PanAm_DC10 : Once you open the spreadsheet, look at the bottom and tab 2 times to the left and you will get a month by month breakdown by customer and a YTD total
78 Post contains images Zvezda : Thanks! Still not as powerful as the Boeing user definable reports, but having the results in a spreadsheet can be handy.
79 Post contains images Windshear : Yeah, I am thinking about the A380 business jet buyer, who might just be fed up with the delays. If 4 B748I orders are what we are looking at, then m
80 Post contains links PanAm_DC10 : Actually, they have the capacity to increase production to 6 per month, at least according to one analyst; Boeing builds about one and a half 747 jet
81 Post contains links Bringiton : SpI reports that 10 of the 747-8F ordered are for emirates cargo . http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/business/287749_airbus06.html
82 Boeing nut : For once, I'm sad that I was right. LOL.
83 AirTranTUS : Thank you. I didn't look at the bottom for the tabs. Sad year for Airbus' long haul products. 3 A340's and 0 A380's.
84 Post contains images MIAMIx707 : The last 744s orders were by Cathay for the ERF version, and it was this year.. weird they ordered the older version or just really needed the range.
85 PlaneHunter : AFAIK, the last order was placed by Uzbekistan Airways in August 1997. PH
86 Ikramerica : CO ordered 10 762s in nov 1998. Kazakhstan orderd 1 in 2000. 9 UFO's in 2001 (military?)
87 SpruceMoose : Pardon my ignorance, but is this 10 more for Emirates cargo? Or is this firming up the 10 announced previously? If those slots are convertible to -8i
88 MIAMIx707 : Thanks! Wow that was a while ago for the A310. What about before the CO order? Because these birds have updated systems or 777 cockpit or something,
89 Beech19 : Lets see the actual Boeing press release first. Last time i checked news papers have been wrong before... ESPECIALLY the Spi. Argh! yeah... those are
90 NA : I was thinking from the beginning that 10 out of the 14 unidentified are just a conversion of the options Emirates took at (or shortly before) Farnbor
91 MCOflyer : I knew it was for EK. I'm a good estimater. MCOflyer
92 PHKLM : As if LAN still flies DC-8's and 707's... Anyway, this could very well be; it might be a combination of one or two freighters, one or two 767-300's f
93 MIAMIx707 : LANChile was still operating freighter DC8s less than 6 years ago. Others like Florida West, Mas Air, Tampa, Absa (all who recently operated DC8s and
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