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User currently offlineHALFA From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 1363 posts, RR: 15
Posted (8 years 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 4271 times:

Yesterday, I booked and paid for a United Airlines round trip ticket from LAX to GIG via IAD and GRU. The return is GIG-GRU-ORD-LAX. I used two internet search engines (mobissimo and Kayak) to check for the lowest fares and was able to find a fare of $830.00 using an internet based wholesaler, which if you know anything about fares to Brazil from the US West Coast, is a pretty good price nowadays. I then tried pricing the same itinerary on UA's website and the price quoted was $1509.00!! This is for travelling next week. This begs the question, why would anyone book travel with an airlines website when the price difference is so huge?
I have assigned seats, I will accrue full mileage with UA's mileage plus and I saved $679.00 by doing a little checking online. Frankly, I'm quite shocked at the price difference!
Anyone else have similar experiences? And which air fare search engines do you use?

Aloha,
HALFA


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User currently offlineLeskova From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 6075 posts, RR: 70
Reply 1, posted (8 years 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 4051 times:

Just booked myself on a PHX-LAS daytrip at the end of this month... I got a fare of $117.10 on US/HP's website.

I booked exactly the same segments in our Sabre terminal and got a fare of $103.66.

I'm not shocked at all, it's what I had expected - and it's well within what I'm used to... but I've long since stopped arguing with people on here about that ever-present myth that airline websites are always cheaper.

I guess it's no surprise that I did not use the airline website for my flights. Big grin

Regards,
Frank



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User currently offlineBa757gla From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2006, 760 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (8 years 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 3930 times:

klm is usually quite expensive but BA is cheaper!

User currently offlineCedarjet From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 8143 posts, RR: 54
Reply 3, posted (8 years 2 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 3849 times:

Yes BA.com are usually cheaper than any online agent / wholesaler. Best fare for an open jam LHR-LAX/YYZ-LHR online was about £500, on BA.com it's £386. Not bad.


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User currently offlineAndaman From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (8 years 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 3819 times:

Finnair is not always the cheapest choice from HEL to Asia, but luckily they regulary have really good website offers:
At the moment Helsinki - Shanghai return 399 Euros.
Also seen Japanese destinations for 500e return, Delhi 385e, Dubai 470e (charter).
Last year I flew HEL-BKK-HEL for 500e.

[Edited 2006-10-06 12:34:47]

User currently offlineSK736 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2006, 527 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (8 years 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 3744 times:
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Quoting Andaman (Reply 4):
Finnair is not always the cheapest choice

You can say that again! I wanted a one-way MAN/HEL - on AY's website the fare was £470 and on BA's the very same flight (it's an AY flight with a BA code share) I got it for £90.


User currently offlineLipeGIG From Brazil, joined May 2005, 11442 posts, RR: 58
Reply 6, posted (8 years 2 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 3418 times:
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Hi Halfa

Thanks for share this info as now i'm one more looking for cheap deals to GIG from JFK.
The daily light TAM introduce to JFK will help a lot and i wish the future flight GIG-MIA could help also as demand remain very high as well as prices.
Have a nice trip and i see you in Rio !

Felipe



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User currently offlineCWUPilot From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 126 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (8 years 2 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 3415 times:

I got a great deal on American's website. $445 rt SEA-LHR. That's the first time I found something the wholesalers couldn't beat.


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User currently offlineCedarjet From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 8143 posts, RR: 54
Reply 8, posted (8 years 2 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 3401 times:

Aircanada.com also good: to fill the gap in my open jaw LHR-LAX/YYZ-LHR, they'll sell me a oneway from LAX to YYZ for £96, which is incredibly cheap for a five hour flight on a full service national flag carrier. And it's not cos I'm on the redeye, every flight every day in Nov is that price. So much for global warming.


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User currently offlineAvianca From Venezuela, joined Jan 2005, 5934 posts, RR: 40
Reply 9, posted (8 years 2 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 3401 times:

well I am always checking "all" options before booking due the big differences, with saying all I am also checking intraeurope flights on an us based web-side etc....

regards



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User currently offlineMalaysia From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 3360 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (8 years 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 3225 times:

I got 680 round trip from DCA-BKK on AA.com that was very good especially for an East Coast departure compared to wholesalers.


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User currently offlineFlight777 From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 28 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (8 years 2 weeks 4 days ago) and read 3195 times:

I bought a oneway ticket CAE-CLT-MSY on US for $189 and change back the end of Aug. I then took the trip back (oneway) MSY-EWR-CAE on CO the end of Sept for $179. The other fares on AA, DL, US, NW were no cheaper than $300-400. Plus I booked both trips on the respected airline websites. I very frequently book on Travelcoity, Expedia, Orbits, etc. and sometimes I find better fares on the airline sites. I guess it's just when and where you look and LUCK!!

User currently offlineVfw614 From Germany, joined Dec 2001, 4013 posts, RR: 5
Reply 12, posted (8 years 2 weeks 4 days ago) and read 3184 times:

Quoting SK736 (Reply 5):
You can say that again! I wanted a one-way MAN/HEL - on AY's website the fare was �470 and on BA's the very same flight (it's an AY flight with a BA code share) I got it for �90.

Hardly surprising given that Finnair, unlike BA, has not changed their pricing model to one-ways. You were thus probably quoted a business-class fare or an unrestricted economy fare.


User currently offlineAndaman From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (8 years 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 3099 times:

Quoting SK736 (Reply 5):

You can say that again! I wanted a one-way MAN/HEL - on AY's website the fare was £470 and on BA's the very same flight (it's an AY flight with a BA code share) I got it for £90.



Quoting Vfw614 (Reply 12):

Hardly surprising given that finnair, unlike BA, has not changed their pricing model to one-ways. You were thus probably quoted a business-class fare or an unrestricted economy fare.

Not exactly sure what change you ment here but AY do changed their pricing model a year or two ago, I have bought those new one-way tickets many times, also to MAN. Just checked 15th Nov: HEL-MAN 118 Euros, MAN-HEL 101 GBP.

Of course strange if BA and AY have so different pricing methods.


User currently offlineKHKAIR From Canada, joined Oct 2004, 27 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (8 years 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 3076 times:

I just bought a round trip ticket from London to Hong Kong from Oasis Hong Kong airlines in November which cost me only GBP 261.05 It's an amazing fare......

User currently offlineMd94 From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 149 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (8 years 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 3070 times:

We have been planning a trip from MCI-GRU for January and most of the online fairs were $1100-$1500 (not including fees/taxes). Went through a Brazilian travel agency in NY and got it for $970 (all taxes/fees included) on DL through ATL.


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User currently offlineCedarjet From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 8143 posts, RR: 54
Reply 16, posted (8 years 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 3032 times:

Quoting KHKAIR (Reply 14):
I just bought a round trip ticket from London to Hong Kong from Oasis Hong Kong airlines in November which cost me only GBP 261.05 It's an amazing fare......

I know! I got one too.



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User currently offlineAsstChiefMark From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (8 years 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 3017 times:

Here are some strange fares. Some really good. Some really bad.

Sky High Airlines Free Range Fares

Mark  Wink


User currently offlineAndaman From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (8 years 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 2952 times:

Quoting KHKAIR (Reply 14):
I just bought a round trip ticket from London to Hong Kong from Oasis Hong Kong airlines in November which cost me only GBP 261.05 It's an amazing fare......


From HEL you can get to HKG for around 280e return (AY) at cheapest, but of course HEL is two or three hours closer to China than London.

[Edited 2006-10-08 02:05:55]

User currently offlineHALFA From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 1363 posts, RR: 15
Reply 19, posted (8 years 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 2877 times:

Quoting AsstChiefMark (Reply 17):
Here are some strange fares. Some really good. Some really bad.

Sky High Airlines Free Range Fares

Mark

That was good!!
Not quite what I was looking for when I asked what search engines do you guys use, but very funny none-the-less!!

Aloha,
HALFA



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User currently offlineVfw614 From Germany, joined Dec 2001, 4013 posts, RR: 5
Reply 20, posted (8 years 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 2688 times:

Quoting Andaman (Reply 13):
Not exactly sure what change you ment here but AY do changed their pricing model a year or two ago, I have bought those new one-way tickets many times, also to MAN. Just checked 15th Nov: HEL-MAN 118 Euros, MAN-HEL 101 GBP.

Mhhh, maybe they have different pricing models for different markets ? I looked up some fares from the continent where they compete with the likes of Lufthansa and KLM (no one-ways either) and it appeared to me that all pricing was based on round-trips. Maybe they have changed that for the UK market in order to remain competitive ? Just recently Lufthansa has introduced one-way domestic fares, obviously because of the competition by dba/Air Berlin, but they keep round-trip pricing on most European routes, so as always it is just a question of competition and not a dogma.


User currently offlineManchesterMAN From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 1233 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (8 years 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 2625 times:

Quoting HALFA (Thread starter):
This begs the question, why would anyone book travel with an airlines website when the price difference is so huge?

- Maybe they don't want the lowest price, but require a fare with more flexibility
- If booking with a consolidator many fares don't earn FF mileage
- Many airlines such as UA have a low fare guarantee so people think the fares won't be cheaper anywhere else.
- Many airline websites offer 1,000 bonus miles for booking on their website

Of course if the fare difference is very big then I would go for the cheap fare, although only if I could ascertain in advance if the fare was FF miles earnable as a few years ago I made the mistake of booking an AA flight London - San Francisco with a consolidator and it turned out to be an O fare and I got nothing. From that day on I have always checked first and if they can't tell me the booking class I go elsewhere.

I always shop around for fares but more often than not find myself back whee I started on the airline website. They are not always cheaper but often are. With UA though one doesn't need much of an excuse to avoid united.bomb



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User currently offlineJetBlue From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 393 posts, RR: 5
Reply 22, posted (8 years 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 2561 times:

AA.com has a "Lowest Fare Guarantee" in which, if, on the same day after you purchase a ticket for American Airlines flights on their website, if you find a lower fare anywhere online, they will refund the difference, and give you a $50 credit to use on a future booking!

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User currently offlineKl692 From Canada, joined Feb 2006, 676 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (8 years 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 2500 times:

Quoting Ba757gla (Reply 2):
klm is usually quite expensive but BA is cheaper!

Klm is not that cheap. I have been shopping for a cheap ticket from YYZ to ACC and the cheapest I got was about $1450 so I want on KLM website only to get a price of $5000 and I was shock so I called KLM reservation line to get a quote and they quote me higher than what I got on their website. Ever since the take over by Air France, I have notice price change in KLM fares and I as for BA they are somewhat cheap without the taxes but once you add the taxes it is a lot.



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User currently offlineTransIsland From Bahamas, joined Mar 2004, 2046 posts, RR: 9
Reply 24, posted (8 years 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 2434 times:

Quoting JetBlue (Reply 22):
AA.com has a "Lowest Fare Guarantee" in which, if, on the same day after you purchase a ticket for American Airlines flights on their website, if you find a lower fare anywhere online, they will refund the difference, and give you a $50 credit to use on a future booking!

AA.com is one of the places I usually check for airfares. The other day I booked NAS-MIA-SFO-SYD-LAX-MIA-NAS there. The fare was about $2,000, which, for a next day departure, wasn't too bad. I think I had limited choices, as most of my usual websites don't give you next day international flights.

Anyhow, AA screwed up the credit card transaction, so the next morning at the airport, the guy at the check-in counter couldn't do much but sell me another ticket. Same flights were now $1,700.

Bottom line: Thank you, AA, for not being able to process my credit card, you saved me $300! (BTW, that ticket was paid for with the exact same credit card they couldn't process the day before.)



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25 Post contains images Fbgdavidson : You really need to look at AA.com for BA flights That website is hilarious. If I need cheering up I listen to the 'Friendmaker Flights' advert
26 ManchesterMAN : I've found that the little aa.com loophole whereby they charge less tax on BA flights than BA do has been closed recently, although aa.com is always
27 LongHauler : I just booked on bmibaby LHR-CDG, next July for GBP 5.00 plus taxes/etc!
28 SK736 : I just looked at MAN/LHR/MAN on 14th October. On aa.com the fare is £56.50 and on ba.com the very same flights are £64.10 plus a credit card fee!
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