Redtailmsp From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 206 posts, RR: 2 Posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 2940 times:
A couple of weeks ago, NWA started a two month test to see how much fuel could be saved by doing pushbacks on the DC9s versus powerbacks. This is at all stations with the exception of Springfield, Missouri, where they do not have a towbar. The downside to pushbacks is that with the staffing levels being pared down to bare-bones just about everywhere, delays are bound to occur - especially at the hubs. Anyone out there noticed any long delays in pushing back? I was on a MEM-MSP flight the other day that waited over 10 mins for a tug. Anyone working the ramps in DTW/MSP/MEM got any thoughts?
N808NW From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 374 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 2865 times:
I haven't seen any noticeable delays and I work the ramp at MSP. if there isn't a DC9 towbar around all you have to do is get on a tug and drive around until you find one. we usually make sure we have a towbar well before pushback. if there are any delays from this I'm sure its no more than 10 min.
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M404 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 2226 posts, RR: 5
Reply 6, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 2540 times:
I've not seen the full effort for 100% pushbacks yet as MEM is still in the middle of training about 150 agents,many as backups to the very sparse gate crews. As mentioned in another thread, tug availability probably will be a problem. I have seen tugs on the road on flatbeds that, I was told, were being redistributed from outsourced stations where the new contractor was providing the tug themselves. I'd like some more corroboration on that aspect if possible. After the training a pool of agents who normally work elsewhere will be "on call" to provide the extra manpower if needed. We'll see.
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RW717 From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 287 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 2290 times:
A power-out is when you pull the jetway as close to the building as you can, and the jet just turns its front nose gear all the way to the right and turns around. We used to do them in FCA when I worked there for NW. DL also did them there.
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I like to hear about SGF. My first Airplane trip was out of SGF in 1977, SGF-STL. I remember my mom and I meeting my dad at SGF dozens of times until we moved to DEN in 1981. Mom and I even flew on one of Ozark's Fairchilds in 1980, to STL.
Back in the late 70s I think Ozark was the only mainline service to SGF. Those are the only planes I ever saw around there, but I was rather young. I have seen photos of Allegheny DC-9s there. There was a 747 there, once, in 1979 or 80 I have no idea why it was there, but it made the local TV news and paper.
How long has NWA (or Pinnacle and Mesaba) served SGF?
Captaink From Mexico, joined May 2001, 5109 posts, RR: 12
Reply 14, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 2108 times:
Quoting RW717 (Reply 11): A power-out is when you pull the jetway as close to the building as you can, and the jet just turns its front nose gear all the way to the right and turns around. We used to do them in FCA when I worked there for NW. DL also did them there.
So what does that do for the airplane pushing back or leaving the gate area..?
Sunking737 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 2040 posts, RR: 8
Reply 17, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 2063 times:
I didn't know NW had stopped doing power backs. We did it all the time at RC, on the old green concourse, now A-B-C., in MSP. I did many of them, that was part of my job that I really liked. Even did power backs on the Convair 580. Now that was power!!
The biggest draw back was winter time and getting blasted by sand and slush. e would wear googles.
The DC-9 and 727 we did all the time. We tryed to get a 757 Capt. do do a power back one day. He almost had a stroke as the plane was about 2 weeks old. LOL. He said no and after about 10 min we gave up.
IIRC Eastern was the carrier who started the whole power back thing. I think in ATL.